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Me too Garrett, me too.

Death, taxes and Mike Sirotka/Soroka/Sirota on the White Sox.

Watching a rebuild is fun to me. It's the reason I won't watch the Bulls anymore, the treadmill is not a fun place to be. I'm excited to watch the Sox next season if it's just a bunch of 24-year-olds trying to make it in the league and maybe break out. Some guy last spring training, maybe Soroka or Shewmake or some new(bad) addition, said the team was going to impress because it's a bunch of 28-year-olds fighting for their careers. I don't think anybody bought that, but I might buy it when they're rookies and second year players. There's some potential for fun or a surprise when there's players who could break out. In other words, I'd much rather watch Brooks Baldwin play second base than Nicky Lopez, rather watch Ramos than Moncada, Vargas than Eloy, etc. even if it means another 100 loss season. Sports is still fun. Maybe watching it on TV gets old after 70 years or whatever the average age of this board is. Or posting about it on the internet since the day of newsgroups. But its a timeless thing that has been fun and socially relevant since, I dunno, they started recording history.

Cannon will be starting game 2 of the 2028 World Series for the Chicago White Sox.

thought this was a caufield post for a second

Perused SOSH this morning for a good half hour. On paper we got a fair deal and perhaps even an overpay according to some pretty tuned in Red Sox fans. This is a baby step towards the next good Sox team. There is much that needs to happen before that, but we have cleared one bar.

Reds should be going for it. Weak division and you just hired a great manager.

my guy Gavin Sheets is in the middle of a 4 year career as a starting outfielder in this org. Jacob Gonzalez is gonna be a big leaguer* *white sox definition.

I’m glad they are going after Sasaki because every team should be throwing their name in the hat. Landing him should be near impossible, but one thing Getz appears to be good at is selling his vision to people. And I think there are selling points to be made for the Sox if you can ignore the historically bad team that’s multiple years away from competing. However, if he wants to enjoy the benefits of living in a major market without the pressures of playing for a real large market club he will be hard pressed to find something better.

Will be a case of an immovable object (Meidroths plate discipline) against an unstoppable force (white Sox orgs ability to diminish it)

Without even focusing on the guy or guys that I think are overrated…what are the odds that all 4 of those guys stay healthy for a full year? This can be said about literally any set of 4 pitchers in the big leagues.

Since when do the Sox develop players?

Yeah the only problem is I don't see these kind of moves happening with Jerry around. Jordan Montgomery is another guy I would like to see salary dumped with a prospect attached to us. If he pitches good, he can opt out after a year and you can offer a QO. Would check the box of having a lefty starter, veteran guy on a young staff. Plus, the D-Backs owner bashed him. Probably very available haha

I will say this, if you can trade Robert to the Reds for a solid prospect package, you’re down to about $50M in payroll. That allows you to do some creative stuff via trade or free agency. I’d go use those saving and sign Jeff Hoffman. FG has him getting 3/$30M while MLBTR projects 4/$44M. I would split the difference and offer 3/$39M with an opt-out after year 2. However, the goal here would be to convert him back to a SP and hopefully turn him into a high-end trade asset. If that experience were to fail, then I’d put him into the closer role ahead of the deadline and still hope to cash in. It would be a small gamble, but I think one worth taking.

He is doing what Hahn would do. Sign 5 bad players instead of 1 good player.

Getz should do his due diligence and at least start preparing to setup a Hagen Smith deal for Boston's 2030 and 2031 first round picks

You 100% trade him. And you can use the $20M on a different free agent when the time is right while also landing some valuable prospects.

This city will love him. Like Kris Bryant but better and for longer.

I’ve always liked this guy and will continue to root for him… even when he plays against us. Once this team shows they’re worthy of being pulled for, I’ll change this stance. We’re all cursed with White Sox Blood.

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That’s some revisionist history on Edwin. He was good in 2019 and seemed like the perfect DH for the 2020 team.

If the Cubs do get Tucker, I hope it puts some heat on the Reds to get Robert. Got to keep up.

While you couldn't prove that...that would be a pretty red flag and a lot of questions would get asked. That could easily be the kind of thing that ends an agents career and provokes pretty severe restrictions from MLB. They could literally void Sasaki's signing, they did something similar with a bunch of Braves prospects. If you tried to do it in Y1, MLB is going to come in asking all sorts of questions because of how weird that deal would be. You're going to sign the guy for what, 16 years and $350 million after 1 year? Think that would look a little weird? If you tried to do it in contract Y5, you're going to have to pay him a fair contract anyway, and if he wanted to say no, he's 1 year away from free agency.

I luv Mike Shirley.

I'll pray to God, Baseball Gods, Satan, whoever if I have to.

If they trade Luis during the offseason, I think Arroyo, Petty and a third piece flyer is a pretty good return.

Taylor doesn't have a very good all around game. He's not going to provide much value on defense or on the bases so all his upside is in the box but that is still pretty good upside because he can really hit. This draft is strong in HS position players and pretty good in college hitters so they will definitely get a good player at 1-10. I like Willits and Ebel on the HS side but the guy I'm most intrigued by is Aiva Arquette. I'm usually down on Oregon St guys because they're ridiculously overhyped but this dude is interesting as all hell. He's enormous (6'5" 220) and will be playing SS this spring. If he taps into his power and shows he can play an avg SS he could easily be a top 5 pick.

Yeah, they had it Trader Joe's on Monday.

Collier has a great bat and id love to have him, but Getz isn't going to want 50 different 3B, imo I believe he is laser focused on SS and CF. Basically I think he is waiting for either CIN to agree to Arroyo or PHI to agree to Crawford, whichever blinks first.

I fully expect Davis Martin traded if he has a strong first half.

I think its crazy the Mets sign a player for $700+ million dollars but balk at trading away two prospects. Crazy.

The Orioles wouldn't give up Mayo and Bradfield and the Phillies wanted to wait on Burnes. The Red Sox stepped up though it's a little frustrating having to trade for Teel when he should have already been in the system. It's a really good deal by Getz and I hope there's a couple more on the way.

Is Jerry still alive?

The banner continues until morale improves

This NY Post article is a nightmare on mobile so click at your own peril, but per Heyman: “The Yankees failed to land star left-hander Garrett Crochet because they wouldn’t part with both Jasson Dominguez and George Lombard Jr. The Mets also failed to land Crochet because they wouldn’t surrender the tandem of Brandon Sproat and Jett Williams.”

Sox offer of a 5 year no cost on additional dipping sauce at all Chicagoland participating Rasing Cane's Chicken Fingers is on the board.

I think would trade Crochet for Meidroth straight up.

Well we aren’t a “smaller market team.” Just run like one.

If Getz lands Sasaki, I'll stop ripping him and give @WestEddy the title of "Getz fan before it was cool."

We also just have no player that isn’t swinging three straight pitches.

Honestly having him and Tauchman in the lineup could do wonders for the overall offense. Be nice to have a few guys who aren’t going to sit down after a four pitch strikeout or two pitch groundout.

If this happened(which, LOL. I can’t even imagine this being an option for him but whatever), feels like a signing that is meant to be traded later. And if he showed up and showed out, and a bunch of good teams were interested, that’s wonderful. Seems like a huge stretch though. Not like when Hawk first started saying “get back there, stretch” and it might be a homer, but more like towards the end and he really didn’t know if it was close to the fence and was guessing

Meidroth’s Steamer 600 projection is 3.1 fWAR, 71st highest amongst all position players.

Yeah, but like @Bob Sacamano said, that didn’t happen. Is it possible that this is the first big trade that the majority of posters think Getz won right from the beginning / on paper?

Perfectly reasonable return, probably the first of the Getz regime.

Wasn't it Sasaki whose agent said that a smaller market team could wind up with him because he's looking for more of a soft landing in MLB than being "the man" in NYC or LA? I think if the Sox were serious about him, they could certainly make a credible push for Sasaki.

That's what made the Cleveland teams of the 90s so potent. Every player in their lineup was an OBP monster.

I was just going to post the same thing.