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That's what they want you to think.

For the love of God, the Sox are not someone's child. Jerry and Getz are grown ass men, very highly compensated to do a job. They fail miserably and are certainly open to criticism and mockery. Sorry/not sorry that I'm not going to blow sunshine up their asses.

4-0, we got em right were we want them, should win it 10-9.

Look, you are mad about Jerry and the Sox I get it, but treating Jerry as if he is the dumbest person on the planet somehow getting taken advantage of by the intellectually superior Ishbia is a ridiculous trope. Jerry has been doing this for a long time. He was private equity before this dude was born. Jerry knows full well what he is doing when he sits down in a board room and negotiates a deal for the future of this franchise. He didn't leave out the part where someone is responsible for day to day operations of his two billion dollar investment, and what financial obligations each side has to this structure during the various phases of the deal. He didn't forget to negotiate an end price in a deal for selling the White Sox, in the deal where he is agreeing to sell the White Sox. I don't know why you keep making this absurd allegations which paint Jerry to be some sort of a buffoonish country bumpkin being taking advantage of by a cartoon villain twirling his mustache as he takes advantage of poor ignorant Jerry. It's probably just some weird coping mechanism to push blame away from the current state of this franchise, but none of it is true. If you believe even a small fraction of these posts you make, it is you who needs an education. Again, as you scream at everyone else, take your own advice and quit namecalling and trolling everyone who doesn't agree with you.

Teams trying to come in second place will inherently come in first with some frequency. A team who doesnt even care about producing an MLB product will not come in first ever. This is entertainment. Some fans may have unreasonable expectations but it doesn't take away from the fact that competitive teams play way more entertaining games, which is the name of the game. Fans that are bitching about not winning the world series every year are still engaged and watching games all year..theyre expectations dont make them disinterested. Thats what losing does and having no meaningful games throughout the entire year. I always love how youre so critical of Arturas and other GMs in the city while you stan for Getz. Arturas failed trying to actually win. Investing in the team but with the wrong guys. Thats far better than not even trying which is what the Sox are doing today.

That was really unclear. LOL I was trying to respond to Greg with the previous reply. The quote from Kyle was a response to Greg which I was in agreement with.

Started the game late, watched until it was 8-1 or something then nodded off with sweet dreams about Yoendrys Gomez's 93mph four seamer...woke up and the score was 8-5 and Leasure about to give up a 4 piece. Colson coming up clutch was totally hype though. Grant Taylor shut the door throwing absolute heat. For Leasure, these are the first runs he's given up since August 26. He was bound to fumble at some point but otherwise he's been quite good. The last outing vs the Yankees was not so good and he simply looked bad tonight, wasn't commanding his pitches. Venable made a nice call to the bullpen to get him out of there. He simply didn't have it. Sometimes that happens, I wouldn't write him off, but I think he's a 7th/8th inning pitcher kinda guy and not a closer. Grant, on the other hand, is a Mason Miller kind of dude. His ERA will be quite good next year I imagine. I really like those two and Wikelman at the back end of the bullpen.

Let’s go for a sweep.

Ken Williams had 3 losing seasons in 12 years as GM and never lost more than 90 games.

Made my first foray into naming everyone who played for the Sox this year. I think it’s 61 and I got 48 just off the top of my head and a few more came to me after banging my head against a nearby wall. Tough ones for me were Jankowski, Greg Jones, Gage Workman, Justin Dunn, Elvis Peguero, and surprisingly Nastrini. Sox went through 28 pitchers and an amazing 33 position players. That statistic alone tells you they sucked.

Baldwin uniquely puzzles me in the field. There's absolutely no reason for him to look so bad . Lack of experience is a factor but he gets to balls and sometime just misses them like he relaxes just for a second at the last instance instead of really concentrating on finishing .

on cue. why bring Mead in for the guy who's hit a home run today?

Against my better judgement I will respond . These are dark times for the franchise and moreso for the fanbase. Some of us love our ugly step child and accentuate positive things going on while some of you decide beating the kid is necessary and then claim our positive parenting skills are delusional. i dont think tough love has been hailed as great parenting very much but its pretty popular with bad sports team. Let us love our team our way and you can keep your love/hate relationship in tact finding comfort knowing that your voices will always be the majority opinion . Seriously why does it matter to you when you're the majority ? Are you not happy until we all adopt the same way of thinking or worse. You know in real life I'd be afraid with you guys in charge. Are you running for office ? Let's pile on the minority once again !! The Fire Getz thread isn't enough I guess.

I hope Venable studies his bullpen usage from this season and learns to do better. I realize Getz didn’t give him any talent, but he still pulls some real head scratchers. Especially how he has deployed Vasil.

Daylen Lile is a real nice young player. Had that awesome inside the parker a couple weeks ago. .848 OPS in his rookie season, bright spot for the Nats.

no matter how bad a season is I always feel sad the last week because I didn't watch enough baseball at the same time I do have a season pass for the Fall League, so I get to see the other Montgomery and Smith

COLSON MONTFUCKINGGOMERY!!!!

"Stanning for Getz" means not expressing crushing embarrassment over the Sox churning through 30 pitchers last year. Or just not agreeing with the guy saying that. I am interested to watch how a different approach plays out without being regularly challenged to become negative over a waiver wire claim not turning into a solid regular.

I've been trying to stay out of these, but I HAVE to go after this one. I have to. So, I googled the definition of "psychological projection". Here it is, copied and pasted: In psychology, projection is a defense mechanism in which an individual attributes their own unacceptable thoughts, feelings, or behaviors to others. This is done unconsciously to avoid confronting their own internal conflicts and protect their self-esteem. Wow, just wow. Could there be a more clear example of "projection", especially if you look at his continuing comments to Tray. Tray really?? Trays is the old man yelling at the clouds?? This from a guy, no exaggeration at, who posts, AT LEAST, a hundred times a week on this site complaining about Getz. There you go folks, a clear example of psychological projection to ""protect their self-esteem".

I cannot figure out for the life of me why JR checking out is good for the Sox. They are about to run a sub 50M payroll. Getz has already said they aren’t gonna be doing much in free agency. Trades aren’t gonna be bringing in stars.

Go root for the cubs . Tired of your whining.

I dont know, but this board has been so insanely toxic lately.

That was the most Guardians way to win a game. 2 out walk, bloop, intentional walk, HBP. This has to be one of the most fortunate teams of all time.

Why have you not magicked away Jerry by now 😡

Pal, this is a baseball team not a child. Get it together. Apologies for forcing you to click on this thread and thank you so much for blessing me with your response.

I'd be fine with Meidroth not being on the team next year.

he's actually 120 OPS points worse vs lefties this season than righties... .558* OPS.

Has it worked once this season when Venable "played the match up" with a pinch hitter or relief pitcher? The guy really needs to learn how to be a better in game manager imo. Still like him better than Grifool and think he has a bright future. But the calls to the bullpen this season have been headscratchers. Doesn't help that every left-handed pitcher is unreliable.

You gotta try real hard. We suspend multiple times before we ban. And when you get banned first time offense, that means you came in hot and it was not acceptable by any measure

it's crazy how putting guys with pop in your lineup can single handedly keep you in games, or even win them Sox got like 2 guys on the whole roster who are a HR threat. some could argue 1 guy, lol

yet we want to put every Sox player at first base, he's a DH but any player can improve their fielding

Chase is not really a speedster

Oh Madrigal

Why does Wilson pitch when they have the lead and Vasil pitches when they’re trailing? It should be the other way around. I certainly hope we have seen the last of Wilson in a Sox uniform.

I'd strongly consider hiring Ken Williams as a bullpen recruiter consultant, have him find 5 arms this off-season, pay him and then tell him to go home. The 2 GMS after him are terrible at this.

copy and paste that for 2026

Can’t wait for so many of these pitchers to be gone

Yep, wouldn’t bother me at all if they all forgot about city connect uniforms.

10Ks in 13 outs, wow

am I the only one sick of seeing these strange baseball uniforms? The Red Sox yellow and blue looks like they should be in an Easter pageant. Some uniforms look like NASCAR.

Think Colson has a good shot at finishing 1st on the team in WAR. Before todays game it was: Houser 3.0 Vasil & Colson 2.9

I move them to the archives either when a new game starts or if nobody has replied in over an hour. Every day. Jfc

The White Sox players are such nice kids. Hate to embarrass the other team by just dominating and shutting them down for 9. Let everyone have some fun.

I give the organization kudos for taking a risk of bringing him up instead of wasting the year at Charlotte.

Colson....another bomb.....#21

I think you misunderstand what I meant. I'm talking about JR playing GM and doing things like hiring Tony La Russa. JR has had his fingerprints over baseball operations since he's been around and now he seems to let the GM have free reign. Whether that's due to old age, selling the team or a genuine willingness to try something different, I have no idea, I'm not a mind reader. I do enjoy how that 'play for second place' quote is received differently nowadays around here evidently. We used to all resonate over how stupid of a thing it was. How JR doesn't desire to win but desires to profiteer. Yeah, I'm pretty consistent about the bolded point. AK went all in one year, it failed because of poor talent evaluation and it jettisoned the future by perpetually trading first round draft picks for has beens. He continues to double down on this horrible strategy leaving the Bulls in NBA hell. I was excited that first season of going 'all in', but it was an unabashed failure. "At least he tried" isn't good enough. Instead of giving up first rounders (and more) for Vucevic, DeRozan, Lonzo Ball, they should've traded Zach Lavine at the height of his trade value. They might've gotten a king's ransom for him like OKC got for Paul George. I'd criticize the Sox/Getz for not doing the same thing with Luis Robert after 2023. I might criticize the Cease return, but I think teams actually valued him appropriately and the jury is out on any of the players returned in that deal (though it's not looking promising). I don't 'stan' Getz, I think it's too early to genuinely know if he's good at the job or not, but I very much appreciate that the White Sox operate far differently than the Stone Age Hahn/Kenny teams. Operate in a similar way that most winning franchises do in this day in age. I've provided a few 'bottomfeeder to good' teams as examples of this process. Are the White Sox those teams? It's too early to say, but the framework and ideation is similar. Good organizational hires who have seemed to make an impact. As stated, I'd change my tune if we're not winning by 2027 and signing real players next offseason. That seems like an aggressive timeframe for a baseball rebuild if anything. I think it's a reasonable perspective for fans to want to watch a 'competitive' team that plays .500ish baseball. It's fun to go to a game or turn on the TV and maybe see a win. The Bulls capture these sorts of fans, the JR quote I cited is rooted in that feeling. But for some reason, I think forum posters and 'diehards' do not necessarily share that perspective. We're entertained regardless or we would've be talking all this s%*# on the internet lol. Good or bad, there's always something to discuss. We haven't tuned out of the Sox. I'm actually tuning back into the Bulls next season, they have a couple of young players whose development I'd like to watch and they played a lot better after finally getting rid of Zach. There seems to be some philosophical differences between rebuilding and treadmilling. If I the GM, I'd follow a similar 'tanking' path where it seems to me you'd do what the Royals did to produce the team they have currently. They've had OK teams the last two years, right? But they're pretty much tapped out and are missing the postseason this year. The Twins followed a similar route and I think they might break the Sox record next season. Teams that aren't the Yankees and Dodgers don't go from treadmill to great. You simply have to build it internally.

Is Dylan Crews any good? I think the jury is very much out on him. He has been pretty bad so far. Next year will be huge for him. Also, who knows about Willits? He may be the next Bobby Witt Jr. He may be the next first round bust. Gotta give that time. To the main point of the thread: Yeah, probably. The Sox are trying to be a low payroll team without extra draft picks that somehow puts together a winning team. The sport is loaded with perennial losers who do that like the Pirates and Marlins. The Sox are in danger of falling into that bucket. Kinda early to tell since the complete implosion of their entire roster is so recent. Branch Rickey would be losing 110 games a year with what was left after that. Personally, I don’t put too much stock in farm system rankings since outcomes are uncertain. Cleveland’s farm system didn’t get much credit for Jose Ramirez, but he turned into a borderline Hall of Famer. The Cardinals were given a lot of publicity for Jordan Walker, and that has not worked out. The Sox have like 9 guys who are pretty highly touted. If half of them work out, they will be competitive. If someone exceeds their perceived ceiling, maybe they’ll be good. The whole thing is a crapshoot.

This has nothing to do with hindsight, Einstein. Luhnow was a top GM candidate who was obtained via a search process where multiple candidates were interviewed. He was in charge of Cardinals minor leagues during a stretch where the team made the playoffs 9 out of 12 years, including TWO World Series wins and certainly never lost 100 games. Chris Getz has been in the White Sox organization since 2016. In that time, they've lost 100 + games TWICE as often as they made the playoffs. Stearns and Luhnow were HIGHLY qualified candidates who were hired based on merit. Edit: I don't have much basis for it? The White Sox are the worst organization in professional baseball since Getz took over. How is there not much basis? What the hell are you watching, pal? Is it the same thing we're all watching?