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If it makes you feel better, Yoan4Moan is a Cubs fan troll who's been banned under other screen names. Jerry kicked Lip's dog in the 80's or something and he hasn't said anything positive on these boards since 2001. If you can actually make it through an entire Caulfield ramble, you might actually be crazy too. If you ignore those 3, the board starts making a lot more sense. Carry on.

I love the armchair pitching coaches even more than the hot take meatballs though. He had no fastball command after the Yankee game? Are you people for real? He was cruising tonight with the fastball change combo and had 13 swinging strikes. Got by against the Twins solely with the change....fathom you‘re a fucking hoot. 🤣

I mean, how many sell out crowds have they had? 6-7? They won their home opener, beat the Yankees the first two. Lost to the Cubs now and a couple others. This take is nothing but recency bias every time.

Hope Lester does not get 2 ft off the corner again tonight

All I can think of is that it's a mental thing with him. It's happened to pitchers before, just can no longer find the strike zone and the more they think about it the worse it gets. But with him it is incredible, going from leading all minor league pitchers in strikeouts to a guy getting ready to take a quick ride to retirement. With Fulmer I think it is a combination of his bizarre delivery which cause him to miss often his release point, the fact that the Sox rushed him in my opinion to the majors in some misguided effort to "justify" their selection of him and then having had his delivery tweeked and changed so often that the guy no longer knows which way is up.

if we get a good nova game tomrorow

Moncada gets on base then my guy bats with game on the line ... not a good scenario as I'm usually doomed. I better log off.

Another hit for Rutherford. 3-4, 2B, RBI

I like you as a poster, but it’s ok to just admit he sucked in a game. You don’t need to act as Giolito’s publicist...we all like him.

My favorite game-thread trope is when people exclaim "Just throw strikes!" Like the pitcher is actively trying to throw balls instead.

This is just set up for a walkoff eloy granny.

He did? He was fine for the first 4 innings. He lost his mechanics in the 5th. Enough with the nervous and spazzy shit. You all sound so stupid

That inning was a total anomaly for Giolito this season. If you're trying to read more into than that, it's quite the meat ball take. No one claimed he was a completely finished product and finely groomed ace. There was always going to be a little bit of regression. What did you think? He was going to maintain a 0.83 ERA that he had over that stretch? Get the hell out of here. End of discussion.

Cubs just have his number. The Sox lit up both Strasburg and Sale. It happens

No, but apparently it is fun to post the hottest meatball takes the second something bad happens for a lot of people here

Either this forum is infested with trolls or you guys just love to be miserable.

Man am I stupid or what?

Yup. They are both doing fine.

You do god's work in these game-threads.

Imagine believing that

Shocked Lester didn't get that call.

That was a pretty easy shorthop. A major league 1b has to pick that

I'm not falling all over myself. I'm merely saying that at the time it was not the most ridiculous trade ever. Trading a burned out prospect and a lottery ticket (that happened to become a $100,000,000 lottery winner) for a former very good pitcher is often done and sometimes the pitcher turns it around. For you to suggest Cole Hamels was Cy Young and Shields was garbage...and most of your evidence is Hamels winning more popularity contests and being hot in the 2008 playoffs and using "shit" and "fuck" and lots of questions marks doesn't make it true. At his peak Hamels was better than Shields but Shields pitched in the AL East as TBR best pitcher and Hamels in the NL East behind the great Roy Halladay . The five years prior to the trade Shields had 18.3 WAR and Hamels had 18.9. Shields was making $21 million a year, Hamels $23. In their 34th year they were terrible...Hamels with the five game stretch of 10+ ERA immediately before the trade. I don't think the comparison is out of line. But honestly...You win. Go back to the daily self flagellation about one trade that turned out bad and how management is stupid and everything is horrible and it will be horrible forever.

I don't know if there's anyone here who has as consistently opposed the white sox rushing people over the years as me, so keep that in mind when I say this. I want him up earlier than that. He has a good spring training and a good month in AA next year and he's my first baseman. If something goes wrong and his numbers aren't there, fine...but this is a hitter who should be ready to go. Get him to AA this year. Are they heading to the southern league playoffs? Start him in AA next year, let him prove he's better than those guys (he absolutely should be) and f*** it, throw him into the fire.

No, if he's their #2 they're fine. He still got a lot of swinging strikes. There's no stuff deterioration or anything. He's really good but loses his release point from time to time. If I'd have to make determinations right now, I'd say Cease will be the staff ace, Gio is the #2 and Kopech is the #3. All are capable of carrying the team from time to time. It is a good problem to have. Literally Giolito's two worst outings all season were against the Cubs. That makes it look worse than it actually is. He gave up 4+ ER 4 times all season and 2 were against the Cubs. I hate it as much as everyone else.

And If he fails, he could always make it as a porn star with that name.

I like Benetti. I think if there's an issue, it's that he's too much of a cornball. Sometimes I feel like he tries a bit too hard.

In his mind, Bruce Levine has traded Schwarber for every all star in either league over the last 3 years

There are posters here that think he's good which is more disturbing.

Gio can stay good facing the Yankees, Astros, etc. I'll gladly take that from him.

El Rockin is the greatest Sox fan alive. Never negative. Always sees the positive. That said i am outta here. ... Hopefully I will change the luck. I despise the Cubs.

AJ, aside from talking about Lucas' mechanics, isn't a terribly impressive color commentator.

To be honest sox ain't out of this one

Or he’s facing a dynamic offense with some patient hitters who have a strong game plan against him?

He’s a huge man who has struggled in the past to maintain consistent mechanics. Now it’s the job of Mr. Fix It Cooper to get him back on track.

Giolito just made us all miserable with his awful 5 walk performance.

Pathetic inning for Giolito. God help this staff if Giolito struggles.

Get someone up in the bullpen. Giolito's mechanics are all over

Good on Leury for at least making Lester work here.

Exactly... To be honest, in every sport. I'll never understand why fans let announcers bother the sh*t out of them. Some people really can't get past what a damn announcer is talking about. I swear, I have never (in my life) really heard anything worth complaining about. It's mind boggling to me how much people give a sh*t.

Kasper is a more controlled version of Santo. His bias couldn't be more obvious. You're calling a national game asshole.

Congrats for calling the obvious. 😂

He looks fine.

Strike 1 to Moncada was a joke

dannnng you guys slept on Ronaldo Guzman’s line. 5 IP, 7 Ks, 1 BB, 2 H, 1 R.

https://www.mlb.com/whitesox/prospects/stats/affiliates?date=07/06/2019

As is saying Jose refuses to DH is hilariously bad and when asked to prove it .. crickets. Jose has DH'd 26% of his games played this year which is way up from 10% last year. Also didn't he ask you if you thought Vaughn will get any kind of significant time in the Majors in 2020 that you also didn't answer ? Assuming Vaughn gets any significant playing time next year is a long shot. It's also laughable if you think he was comparing Vaughn to Lance Broadway. I know you know he means the Sox have an unsuccessful recent history with 1st round picks. Not a single soul should be thinking Vaughn will spend a large portion of next season with the Sox and I wanted him in Winston -Salem and the Sox started him a level lower at Kannapolis .Even him making opening day 2021 might be a stretch

Recent college bats that have gone to the majors a year after being drafted: 2015 MLB Draft #1 Dansby Swanson (569 PAs in minors before coming up) #2 Alex Bregman (679 PAs in minors before coming up) #6 Andrew Benintendi (657 PAs in minors before coming up) 2014 MLB Draft #4 Kyle Schwarber (621 PAs in minors before coming up) #10 Michael Conforto (589 PAs in minors before coming up) #13 Trea Turner (871 PAs in minors before coming up) The only reason Kris Bryant didn't come up in 2014 was because of service time manipulation. Vaughn is supposed to be one of the best college hitters of all time, if he is raking in the minors and ready by the All-Star break next year then bring him up.

It seems to basically be a combination of the endowment effect and loss aversion. Endowment effect states that people tend to value things they own more than an identical thing that they do not own. You will see this all the time when talking about prospects. You could propose a trade for two basically identical prospects and both fanbases would say the other team wasn't giving up enough. We always value our prospects more than if that same prospect were in a different organization. Loss aversion is the tendency for people to get more dissatisfaction out of losing some amount of value than satisfaction from gaining that identical value. If you lost $100 you would lose more happiness than you would gain if you were to gain $100. Because of this, losses seem to hurt more than gains. But one important way these two things compound is that loss aversion is not based on the true value you gained or lost, but on what your expectation was. So because the endowment effect shows that we tend to value our own players more than we should, our expectation is higher for them so any loss aversion has a higher starting point resulting in an even greater difference between the downside and upside. TL;DR: Behavioral economics says that we will gain much less happiness from winning a trade than we will lose happiness for losing a trade, which seems to check out.