Everything posted by GreenSox
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Potential Crochet Trade discussion Thread
Giants
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Potential Crochet Trade discussion Thread
Trade him to Philly for Walker. May have to add some $ (Beni is owed $9 mill more). If nothing else, Walker's contract ends after 2026 rather than 2027.
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Potential Crochet Trade discussion Thread
That's true, but it's the front office that needs to figure out a different way to extract value, whether it's compensating with higher volume or something else. Maybe they can use the draft better; Cags was right there for the taking - high risk/high reward - and they went for the high risk/high reward pitcher. Abreu, the guy that the RedSox apparently are peddling, was a non-descript prospect in a 2022 trade of Christian Vasquez to the Astros. His RedSox debut was #23 on their prospect list. The next year, he's in the majors.. A lot of that is luck, but you can put yourself in a better position to get lucky when you analyze, develop and scout well.
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Potential Crochet Trade discussion Thread
He has mid rotation stuff. So they traded 2 years of a TOR pitcher for 5/6 years of a pitcher who could end up in the middle of the rotation. Need to stop trading on the other team's terms (which they also did with Bummer and Fedde/Kopech). That's made more difficult by the not so subtle message that they "have" to trade a particular player.
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Potential Crochet Trade discussion Thread
Why in the world would anyone think that the White Sox would consider Bohm when he has the exact same length of control as crochet does. They would have to bring a third team in, but no team is going to give more than second or third tier prospects for an average player like Bohm.
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Non-Tender Day
Because he averages 5+ BBs per 9 at the ripe young age of 32.
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Non-Tender Day
Why would they tender Anderson?
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Andrew Benintendi on the trade market (duh)
Are they willing to send $30 million to the acquiring team?
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Rule 5 Protection tomorrow
None of the unprotected relievers seems overly compelling. But they also have some real riffraff on the 40 man, including relief pitching, that needs culling: Anderson, Kuhl, e.g.
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Potential Crochet Trade discussion Thread
Maybe trade Vaughn for him or something.
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Potential Crochet Trade discussion Thread
I agree with this except for the 28-29 part. It’s not a Jerry issue. We need more good position players and we have two guys coming up who look like they could be Lefty aces.
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Ryan Fuller Hired as Director of Hitting
Getz has done more for the infrastructure of this organization in a year than his predecessor did in a decade +. Admittedly, the comparison is a ridiculously low bar, but I think the Sox will make the playoffs prior to Getz' year 8.
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G.M.'s meeting preview...
Good pitcher, reasonable price. He'll help the team try to be respectable, at least until July when they can move him. They should grab several players like that.
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Venable named new Sox Manager-per Merkin
Chuck Tanner is the best manager the Sox have had since I started following the team as a kid in 67. But he was aided immensely by Hemond’s work in the 70 and 71 offseasons. We need some of that out of Getz. He’s got to make some trades, but he just can’t let the other GMs lead him around by the nose like the Dodgers and Cardinals GMs did.
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Managerial “Search”
Gene Lamont managed the Pirates.
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LV Raiders are the White Sox of the NFL
The Sox remind me of the Saints. Both won titles a while back. Saints have had more playoff success, but in the last few years, they've drafted poorly, retained and signed declining players (sound familiar?) and are in cap hell. Both are in the deepest holes in their respective leagues. And lucky for me, they are my 2 favorite teams in pro sports (Sox #1).
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Managerial “Search”
Just interviewing the bench coach of the Royals indicates a flawed process. Along the same lines, what is Phil Nevin doing in the interview group this time around? (To be fair, perhaps he isn't; I just saw his name on one of the lists). The other guys look like the type of candidates that we should be interviewing.
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How the Sox went from 12th in fWAR/talent to last
Getz' big gaffe was basically giving away 1.5 years of Kopech and Fedde. And the real cost was opportunity cost: he should have gotten some good young talent back for those 2, and he didn't. The Bummer trade was blah. How could he whiff so badly on Fletcher with Barfield having worked for Arizona? Opinions vary on the Cease return. But otherwise, he mostly chose the worst player between 2 marginal players. He should do better than that. But he hasn't given up any long-term young talent that I can see. But look at the high WAR players on the list: that is the devastation wrought by Hahn. And Tatis and even moreso the Semien trade were so poorly intended that the Sox had very little chance for benefit even at the time the trade was made. Now Getz has been here barely over a year, so he may yet match Hahn in total devastation, but this is a summer rainfall compared to the typhoon that was Hahn.
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Managerial “Search”
FFS This would be so par for the course.
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Managerial “Search”
It makes a lot of difference.
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2024 Playoffs - NLCS/ALCS
You're probably right about that. Mets got really hot (and they're not the perfect team either). Damn Tigers are going to be hard to take down.
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2024 Playoffs - NLCS/ALCS
The Phillies remind me of the White Sox teams of 83, 21 (and 93 to a lesser extent); something was missing and you could feel it all season. In the Sox case, not the most athletic teams and the bullpens weren't always first rate.
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How can they even catch Minn in 3-5 years?
The Royals did it off of their 50-something wins. They have one great position player. Perez had a solid rebound. A couple of other decent hitters. And that's it. It will be imperative to get a manager on board who is a)a good manager and b) has an excellent reputation. No clowns from the Pirates or anything.
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How can they even catch Minn in 3-5 years?
They didn't do squat with their high draft picks anyway. Robert rebounds, Montgomery is the real deal. 1/2 of Fletcher, Ramos, Sosa, Lee, Vargas, DeLoach, Elko turns into average players. That's a start.
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The Mystery of Luis Robert
What are they going to do with him? Trade him for pennies on the dollar? Better off praying he rebounds.