Chicago White Sox

QUOTE (Eminor3rd @ Jul 24, 2017 -> 09:12 AM) The losses are gonna come, boys. We don't have to hope for them. Let's have some fun and spoil the Cubs. This. We're going to a win games, might as well be against the Cubs.

QUOTE (oldsox @ Jul 23, 2017 -> 05:10 PM) Have you been to one? You gonna compare it to the Mayo Clinic, Cleveland Clinic, or the hospital closest to your home? If your kid is hurt or sick, you gonna send him/her to the DR? Why take chances. If he is hurt, get him over here and fix him, then re-hab him here, and develop him here. You just don't get this. Robert likely doesn't sign with us unless he can stay in the DR for a certain period of time to maximize the after-tax value of his bonus. No matter how much you whine about it and no matter how many ignorant comments you make about the DR, Robert is staying there until September.

QUOTE (SoxAce @ Jul 23, 2017 -> 04:28 PM) Make that 4-5 for Jimenez!! Game tying hit. Dude is an absolute beast.

QUOTE (fathom @ Jul 23, 2017 -> 10:57 AM) Hard to see this team winning many games with this pitching once Swarzak is gone. Considering how the starters have been pathetic at going deep into games, we are looking at a ton of innings for horrible relievers. At this point, I'd be shocked if we didn't end up with a top 2 pick. Lopez is really the only reinforcement coming on the pitching side and the staff in place today is a complete mess and that's with Swarzak. The offense is also going to take a hit when Melky is traded, although perhaps Moncada offsets that. Regardless, this is a very bad team and I think we'll be neck and neck with the Phillies for the #1 pick by the end of the season.

Glad to see the "new" Greg lasted a whole week. Once a troll, always a troll...

QUOTE (Y2JImmy0 @ Jul 22, 2017 -> 10:57 PM) They likely could have increased prospect return by doing so with the Yanks. I think they'll dump Melky to whoever saves them the most coin. I hope to be wrong about that. Why did the Yankees the need the cash? They're going to be way below the luxury tax next year.

QUOTE (fathom @ Jul 22, 2017 -> 09:28 PM) Brewers bullpen just blew a 7 run lead vs Phils That's good to hear.

QUOTE (SoxAce @ Jul 22, 2017 -> 05:29 PM) Posted it in the catch all thread. He's day to day with a bruised foot. Didn't see that, thanks.

Eloy out as well.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jul 22, 2017 -> 08:34 AM) https://www.milb.com/milb/news/seattle-mari...968/t-185364810 Positional need for a catcher? Can't remember what was the basic argument last year. If we also had Benintendi/Happ, Lewis and Tatis Jr., oh well....that would have been the best farm system in the history of the game. It's a nice dream. And Happ's defense is holding down his (future) projections, not unlike Schwarber. They had Collins as the #1 talent in last year's draft.

Who the f*** is Winston Salem's manager? They just pulled Jimenez with the bases loaded for Booker.

QUOTE (fathom @ Jul 21, 2017 -> 08:02 PM) In today's KLaw chat, he said Blake has no shot at all of staying in CF. he did say that the rebuild has been excellent I don't think anyone really thinks he sticks in center despite him playing there.

Lopez pitching incredibly well through 5 innings tonight. His next start better be with the Sox.

QUOTE (fathom @ Jul 21, 2017 -> 06:53 PM) Dunning struggling, wind is blowing out I bet the innings are catching up to him. He's approaching 100 on the year which has to be a huge increase for him.

QUOTE (Jose Abreu @ Jul 21, 2017 -> 11:58 AM) Carson Kelly, Tyler O'Neill and a couple lottery tickets for Avi and Swarzak- how far off is that? I'd take Kelly straight up for both Avi & Swarzak.

I agree with the OP, hopefully this is the last minor league start for Lopez.

QUOTE (Anderdale @ Jul 21, 2017 -> 08:02 AM) Maybe I'm spoiled from watching him in college. I'm use to him having more walks than k's. The low average doesn't bother me. The strike outs concern me. Especially all the 3-2 counts that end in swinging strikes. And how can anyone knock his defensive strides? In one off-season he made a couple small adjustments and look where he's at now. Deep down I do believe he can do the same offensively. Exactly, I think this offseason they'll have him work on his swing and try to fix the hitch.

Tito Polo catch from the WBC: http://m.mlb.com/video/topic/73955164/v123...-sprinting-grab

I blame the front office for not educating their manager on why bunting is typically statistically stupid.

QUOTE (beautox @ Jul 21, 2017 -> 03:02 AM) I previously posted this on /r/whitesox. This is the magical Christmas land line up where everyone lives up to the hype. Not likely I know but I enjoy being able to dream on this farms potential. '19-'20 Batting Order CF Luis Robert 2B Yoan Moncada# LF Eloy Jimenez 1B Gavin Sheets* 3B Jake Burger C Zack Collins* DH Jose Abreu RF Blake Rutherford* SS Tim Anderson I doubt Abreu goes anywhere; He wants to mentor the youth movement and is a great ambassador for the team. When his arbitration is up I think the sox lock him up for 3 more years with an option. Additionally 1B & DH have had their value become depressed recently, I also doubt Hahn would get a return to warrant trading him. '19-'20 Rotation SP Michael Kopech SP Carlos Rodon* SP Lucas Giolito SP Jordan Guerrero* SP Alec Hansen This system is deep in pitching and its almost getting to the point where you can put their names in a hat and not feel bad with what you pull out; Lopez, Dunning, Cease, Fulmer, Adams, Stephens & Clarkin, and that isn't including the '17 draft class. I've been blown away with how quickly Hahn was able to navigate the talent acquisition phase. The system is a great blend of high ceiling and moderate floor, specifically Collins, Burger, Sheets, Gonzalez, Skoug, Fisher, Call & Mendick and the dearth of pitching talent. There are some solid major league growth assets in Rodon & Anderson even with down years and some of the younger players might develop into 2-2.5WAR regulars: Yolmer Sanchez, Leury Garcia, Adam Engel & Matt Davidson, that was something that was desperately missed with the recent roster constructions with Sale, Q & Eaton, stars & scrubs with out a sufficent amount of average major league players and depth. There are some interesting players near mlb ready in Delmonico, Liriano, Willy Garcia & the recently acquired Polo that might stick and turn into something as well. Finally they still have one asset they can sell high and likely cash in for another top 100 prospect in Avi. They will be at the front of the line for wavier claims; like Alen Hansen. They will likely have a top 5 pick in '18 & '19 and complement that with the rule V and major league roster space to stash them. It would be wonderful if they hit the lotto and land the next Odubel Herrera or Joakim Soria. Lastly they will have a plenty of money for the upcoming stacked free agent classes that can supplement this roster going into their window, their adjusted payroll for 2019 is 5.6 million before any arbitration or free agent signings. Great write-up! The only thing I disagree on is Lopez not being in the rotation.

QUOTE (Scoots @ Jul 21, 2017 -> 04:32 AM) So, short-term thinking, what does the rotation realistically look like for 2018? You'd have to think Giolito is going to get his shot at his first full major league stint, regardless how bad he is at AAA this season. Lopez is probably there. Rodon obviously. Who else? I dont think Dunning will be up at the start of the season. Shields and Holland will be gone, (thank goodness), so who mans the other 2 spots? Another couple rentals?? Or are we trying our luck with Holmberg again? Right now I'd assume it would be: 1) Rodon 2) Shields 3) Lopez 4) Vet depth signing 5) Giolito/Fulmer/Danish My guess is Shields is DFAed as soon as a spot is needed for a younger guy.

I don't think Alex Call is ever going to get a hit again. Also, the Sox really got to figure out their OF logjam at some point. I have no idea how they're going to make things work when Robert is in the states. There are like seven guys that should be at High A next year.

I wonder how Blair is a framer, because Giolito isn't get anything called close tonight. And he just gave up a triple. 4 runs on the night so far, ugly start for Giolito.

Call & Skoug got bumped up to Kannapolis, in the lineup tonight at LF & C respectively.

You sure Dunning is starting tonight? Milb shows Kubat.