Tony

Then you know how you end that? Respond. When he made the haters comment, the day after it happened, both radio stations, one of which is the flagship home of the Sox, reached out to have him on air. He declined. I can’t speak to The Score, but I know for a fact Waddle and Silvy wouldn’t have “attacked him” or made it a difficult situation, they would have asked him what he meant by calling out “the haters” and who it was directed towards. Again, he could have EASILY made a joke out of it, been a little self-deprecating, and it’s totally over. But he said “No, don’t need to explain myself, letting that comment speak for itself.” Ok, so now you’re leaving it up for people to come to their own conclusions, which we know is a wonderful idea in this day and age. Then, as the cherry on top, he doubled down and calls them “radio losers” weeks later, both stations once again reached out, and once again both were declined. Sorry, but Schiffren isn’t the victim here. This isn’t Kansas City or Milwaukee. This is a large media market with a lot of eyes on you. As I said before, he made the decision to poke the bear once again with the radio losers call. And if he doesn’t want to provide any clarity to the situation, he wants to somehow keep this beef going, the “radio losers” in this town are simply holding up their side of the bargain. There were multiple times and ways for him to end this stupid and petty “feud” with the sports radio stations in town. He decided he didn’t want to do that. Again…that’s on him.

Someone needs to be the bigger person. The "haters" thing was over, then he decided to re-light the fire with the "losers" comment on the broadcast. Sports radio already doesn't have a ton to discuss right now in the sports calendar, you KNEW it was going to re-ignite things. Why do that? I'm not absolving sports radio hosts, they are keeping this going and could not take the bait...but if you're Schriffen, why give them the bait at all?

Yeah, it's not the best. Haven't followed things too closely, but there doesn't seem to be a lot to get excited about at this point with his performance at the higher levels. Still a ton of time left in his development, not sounding the alarms, but clearly there is some more work to do before he's ML ready.

52 PAs in AA in 2022 165 PAs in AA in 2023 173 PAs in AAA in 2024 390 PAs

Came to this sub forum wondering if anyone was discussing this. Colson Montgomery has hit about .230 combined in AA and AAA in his career, over about 350 PA's. Still has plenty of time...but with the way people have discussed Colson and the impact he can have at the ML level....I think there is some reason for concern.

^^^ This. I know absolutely zero about Schriffen, especially since I've seen about 6 innings of White Sox baseball this year. But for a new personality, he should be trying to make a connection to EVERYONE. Fans, media, players...why make public enemies with anyone right now, let alone people that some of his listening audience also enjoys listening to? This is all such a simple fix too, he just refuses to engage with anything.

Shane Riordan is a douche, seems like a consensus. But in terms of your statement of “dish it can’t take it” I think the same can be said about Schiffren here. He knew what he was doing with the line to Beckham. And ok fine, you want to take shots at sports radio host, or “dish it out” in this case, then don’t turn down media requests when someone has a question about the comments you chose to make on a MLB broadcast. That’s the “can’t take it” in this case

Correct. They have a decent chance to go 4-2 in those first six weeks before the bye. But let's say 3-3 is more realistic. Ideally Caleb has started to pick up the speed of the NFL, the team has started to gel...and then the second half is basically dominated by divisional games and it will all come down to the 2nd half of the season. I'd much prefer that to opening the season again against the Packers.

If this season is anything like the last...that's a good thing

Again…what would that “1-2-3” punch accomplish? If the goal is to build a competitive team for multiple seasons, how are those three accomplishing that? As others have mentioned, instead of being 14-30, they would be 18-26? This team is desperate for talent in so many areas and are a long way from competing. Hanging on to veteran talent accomplishes next to nothing, aside from a handful of more wins in a season where they will be lucky to win 65 games with or without those guys. And if you are that enamored with Erick Fedde, then go out and sign another one, didn’t cost much to acquire in FA.

I know it's pointless to go down this road, but lets just use some really basic logic here. When Fedde is a free agent, he'll be 33 years old, and it will be the 2026 season. Even the most optimistic fans don't believe the Sox will be in any sort of playoff hunt in 2025, 2026 being the absolute earliest this team shows any kind of competitiveness. So in your scenario, you're going to pay Fedde not for what you think he will do for you in the future, but instead what he produced for you in the past, and pay a premium for his age 33-34-35 year old seasons, instead of selling high on a 31 year old with a career 5.12 ERA. Doesn't seem like a very logical investment.

I have to think he would have some real value on the market if he continued like this. Not just a rental, he's 31 without a ton of innings on his arm in his ML career, and would slot in nicely as a No. 3 starter for a playoff team.

But the original question still remains and is valid...who are the "haters" and even when we establish that...how are they "haters" of the White Sox? Is a "hater" people that have been critical of objectively the worst team in baseball?

greg for the win?

When Schiffrin decided he was going to represent the “South Side” with his calls, and put all the “haters” on blast, that’s fine, but now that’s your brand and who he is. Two days later, he badly mis-pronounced the name of Bill Veeck on the broadcast. It wasn’t a flub, he read the name on the paper and thought it pronounced “Veek” If he didn’t make the haters comment, the Veeck mistake isn’t even mentioned. But when you want to puff out your chest and speak for the “South Side” then you better be genuine. Maybe brushing up on Sox history would be a good start.

For someone that wouldn’t take a million dollars to appear on sports radio, you seem to know an awful lot about what they talk about on a daily basis. Listen often?

1. Then you're an idiot, because going on sports radio for an 8 minute segment, then getting a check for one million dollars seems like fairly sweet deal. 2. I also don't agree with your second point, at least the part about the "media clique" I think it's an absolutely fair question to ask the "voice of the White Sox" what he meant, or who he was referring to when he referred to "the haters." Now, you are correct that he doesn't owe ESPN 1000 or 670 The Score anything. He doesn't. But as we all know, words and actions have consequences. It's the entire free speech argument. If Schriffren decided on tonight's broadcast, he was going to verbally dress down Jerry, saying "I think he's a terrible owner, the fans deserve better, he has been a stain on this city for decades and it's time for him to sell the team..." he wouldn't be thrown in prison, but you bet your ass he'd be looking for a new job tomorrow. Words have consequences, and when your job literally requires a microphone and your words are broadcast to millions of people, there are responsibilities that come with that.

While none of this is a "big deal" and will be forgotten quickly, I don't disagree with the premise of the article at all. The team is currently 6-25 and we know the history of this franchise and the laundry list of gripes we all have about Jerry. Calling anyone "haters" of this franchise is a stretch, for obvious reasons. But fine, whatever...it doesn't become a story if when both radio stations reached out to have Schriffen on the air to talk about the call, he goes on. But instead he decided to run away. That's a horseshit move. You want to puff your chest and respond to the "haters" but when asked to clarify...no thank you? He could have used it as an opportunity to defend the White Sox, or at the very least tell people who he was directing that at, there are a bunch of ways he could have made a potential interview a win for him and create a more personal connection with fans given he has only called about 30 games with the team...but instead he decided to run and hide.

I would not have spent a 4th rounder on a punter. Spending a 4th rounder on a guy that ideally sees the field 2-3 times a game, I would not have made the same decision. That said, I’m thrilled with the draft and the team Poles has assembled, I’m not going to get super worked up about the pick, but I’m also not going to get excited about it like others have.

I think there is a valid argument to not use a 4th round pick on a punter, but age is sort of irrelevant. Guys are punting at age 35, 37 semi regularly. Additionally, if Taylor is as good as the Bears hope, and he punts for them for the next decade at a high level...there are worse picks that could be made.

The Braves have taken a seemingly different approach https://www.foxsports.com/stories/mlb/why-the-atlanta-braves-best-players-play-every-day

I wonder if they bring back Yannick back in on the cheap

I simply don’t understand that for the Bills at all. ““Hey division rival we are always chasing who is the only team in the league with a better QB, move up to take a WR, even though we need to fill that spot more than any other position on the field”

Seriously, I never thought I'd see the day where the Bears have the best WR room in the NFL lol

You know it's very unlikely the combo of Moore-Allen are both playing every game. If Allen misses time, it's DJ Moore then...Tyler Scott? Rome solves a lot of issues, both short term and long term. Now focus on DE/DT, have a weekend.