GenericUserName Posted December 7, 2017 Share Posted December 7, 2017 QUOTE (steveno89 @ Dec 7, 2017 -> 08:12 AM) Is there a reason that Ohtani did not try to come over in the last international free agent class where he could have gotten paid a mega contract? Didn't his team not want to post him? Plus, I think under the old cba he could have been a free agent without restrictions this year because he is 23. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted December 7, 2017 Share Posted December 7, 2017 Right I don't think he expected the new CBA to be so hard against him but he wanted to come. I think his team would have posted him if he demanded it because I thought I heard one of the reasons he signed with them was their openness to posting him when he wished. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GenericUserName Posted December 7, 2017 Share Posted December 7, 2017 QUOTE (bmags @ Dec 7, 2017 -> 08:44 AM) Right I don't think he expected the new CBA to be so hard against him but he wanted to come. I think his team would have posted him if he demanded it because I thought I heard one of the reasons he signed with them was their openness to posting him when he wished. It makes me wonder who was advising him when he was still in Japan. Because wasn't the new CBA approved like last winter, so he could have tried to just come over before the signing agreement ended in November. He would have gotten more money, been here sooner, and probably saved MLB and the players union from a lot of headaches. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted December 7, 2017 Share Posted December 7, 2017 QUOTE (GenericUserName @ Dec 7, 2017 -> 09:14 AM) It makes me wonder who was advising him when he was still in Japan. Because wasn't the new CBA approved like last winter, so he could have tried to just come over before the signing agreement ended in November. He would have gotten more money, been here sooner, and probably saved MLB and the players union from a lot of headaches. That's also a good point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted December 7, 2017 Author Share Posted December 7, 2017 IIRC there was talk of him coming over to the US directly out of high school at 18 years old. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted December 7, 2017 Author Share Posted December 7, 2017 Jon HeymanVerified account @JonHeyman 20m20 minutes ago hearing Ohtani decision could possibly come by early next week #rnagers #padres #angels #cubs #giants #dodgers #mariners 68 replies 206 retweets 272 likes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleepy Harold Posted December 7, 2017 Share Posted December 7, 2017 Mark Feinsand @Feinsand 44s Source: as part of the Gordon deal, the Marlins also send $1M in international pool money to the Mariners. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted December 7, 2017 Share Posted December 7, 2017 thank god for jerry dipoto Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted December 8, 2017 Author Share Posted December 8, 2017 Buster OlneyVerified account @Buster_ESPN 34m34 minutes ago After MLB's repeated no-tolerance warnings about cheating in Shohei Ohtani bidding, some club officials expect an official review/scrutiny no matter where he signs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted December 8, 2017 Author Share Posted December 8, 2017 Matt Eddy @MattEddyBA 49m49 minutes ago Here are players @Mariners traded to acquire their international bonus pool money: SS Rayder Ascanio C David Banuelos RHP Robert Dugger RHP Nick Neidert SS Chris Torres RHP Thyago Vieira If Seattle signs Shohei Ohtani for full bonus amount, would that be considered a trade? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted December 8, 2017 Author Share Posted December 8, 2017 Jeff PassanVerified account @JeffPassan 1h1 hour ago Jeff Passan Retweeted Buster Olney Multiple officials have talked specifically about a one-year ban for any Ohtani malfeasance. And between that and the reputation hit that accompanies, the league expects it to be an effective scared-straight tactic. With upward of $200M in marginal value available, we shall see. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted December 8, 2017 Share Posted December 8, 2017 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Dec 8, 2017 -> 12:46 PM) Jeff PassanVerified account @JeffPassan 1h1 hour ago Jeff Passan Retweeted Buster Olney Multiple officials have talked specifically about a one-year ban for any Ohtani malfeasance. And between that and the reputation hit that accompanies, the league expects it to be an effective scared-straight tactic. With upward of $200M in marginal value available, we shall see. One year ban for the GM? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted December 8, 2017 Author Share Posted December 8, 2017 QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Dec 8, 2017 -> 12:48 PM) One year ban for the GM? I am guessing they mean in the international market. The other side is that it would also set Ohtani free again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted December 8, 2017 Share Posted December 8, 2017 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Dec 8, 2017 -> 12:50 PM) I am guessing they mean in the international market. The other side is that it would also set Ohtani free again. Is a one year ban in the international market that big of a deal if there’s a good chance you won’t caught? I would hope they have something bigger in mind if they’re trying a “scared straight” approach here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleepy Harold Posted December 8, 2017 Share Posted December 8, 2017 Joel Sherman @Joelsherman1 9s Ohtani is going to the #Angels Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GenericUserName Posted December 8, 2017 Share Posted December 8, 2017 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Dec 8, 2017 -> 12:50 PM) I am guessing they mean in the international market. The other side is that it would also set Ohtani free again. From him mentioning reputation I thought it sounded more like for the GM or other members of the front office Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GenericUserName Posted December 8, 2017 Share Posted December 8, 2017 QUOTE (Sleepy Harold @ Dec 8, 2017 -> 01:04 PM) Joel Sherman @Joelsherman1 9s Ohtani is going to the #Angels I like it. Thats going to be fun to watch with him and Trout. How many times do we play them at home next year? That might be a must attend game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleepy Harold Posted December 8, 2017 Share Posted December 8, 2017 QUOTE (GenericUserName @ Dec 8, 2017 -> 01:05 PM) I like it. Thats going to be fun to watch with him and Trout. How many times do we play them at home next year? That might be a must attend game. Looks like Sept 7-9. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OmarComing25 Posted December 8, 2017 Share Posted December 8, 2017 Awesome, aside from here that's the place I wanted him to go to the most. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurt05 Posted December 8, 2017 Share Posted December 8, 2017 QUOTE (Sleepy Harold @ Dec 8, 2017 -> 01:04 PM) Joel Sherman @Joelsherman1 9s Ohtani is going to the #Angels Wow. That's like picking the White Sox over the Cubs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTruth05 Posted December 8, 2017 Share Posted December 8, 2017 QUOTE (OmarComing25 @ Dec 6, 2017 -> 05:30 PM) That Callis report seems glowing but Longenhagen has said if Ohtani was purely a hitter he wouldn't have him ranked in the top 100 prospects. I'd love to see him become a star on both sides of the ball but having to focus on both will probably be too difficult, I would be surprised if he managed a 100 wRC+. But who really knows. I'm still salty he gave the Cubs a final interview and not the Sox so I'm hoping you and Longenhagen are right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveno89 Posted December 8, 2017 Share Posted December 8, 2017 QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Dec 8, 2017 -> 02:12 PM) Wow. That's like picking the White Sox over the Cubs. At least he didn't pick the Cubs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flavum Posted December 8, 2017 Share Posted December 8, 2017 The Mariners front office must be getting drunk right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted December 8, 2017 Share Posted December 8, 2017 QUOTE (flavum @ Dec 8, 2017 -> 02:30 PM) The Mariners front office must be getting drunk right now. Six players traded for cap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chetkincaid Posted December 8, 2017 Share Posted December 8, 2017 At least it's not that team from the north side. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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