caulfield12 Posted July 7, 2022 Share Posted July 7, 2022 2 minutes ago, kitekrazy said: Fans assume there are other naive GMs not named Rick Hahn. Like one of those Score call in classics where we get a proposed trade package of Foster, Ruiz, Pollock, Engel, Sheets and whichever catcher out of the three you dislike the most for XYZ superstar from another team… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirmin' for Yermin Posted July 7, 2022 Share Posted July 7, 2022 Drury would be such a White Sox acquisition. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kitekrazy Posted July 7, 2022 Share Posted July 7, 2022 1 minute ago, Dick Allen said: I get that, and you are most likely correct, although there are many players that just can't handle NYC. But I would definitely trade Pollock for him. You might be stuck with Pollock another year for 8 figures if he stays around. It's a pipe dream. There's definitely no pressure to perform in the Sox organization. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted July 7, 2022 Share Posted July 7, 2022 1 hour ago, bmags said: If the rays want sosa and Hahn thinks he’s expendable, you keep Sosa That’s probably true, but shooting for ways to add a left-handed 2B. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2Deep Posted July 7, 2022 Share Posted July 7, 2022 Sox are going after starting pitching because Michael Kopech is not ready for a full season of starting. He has been pretty solid the 1st half as a starter......now if you get a starter you put MK in the bullpen to limit his innings That's my belief of why they want starting pitching Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2Deep Posted July 7, 2022 Share Posted July 7, 2022 14 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said: That’s probably true, but shooting for ways to add a left-handed 2B. How many left handed hitting 2nd baseman are out there that you can acquire? I don't really see many if any at all the teams would be willing to trade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted July 7, 2022 Share Posted July 7, 2022 40 minutes ago, caulfield12 said: Like one of those Score call in classics where we get a proposed trade package of Foster, Ruiz, Pollock, Engel, Sheets and whichever catcher out of the three you dislike the most for XYZ superstar from another team… Or like how half this website declared that Kimbrel was untradeable and nobody would take that contract and you for sure wouldn't be getting a player back because there is no GM that dumb 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted July 7, 2022 Share Posted July 7, 2022 1 hour ago, oldsox said: I don't see Kath as close to those other 4 guys. The original list with Ramos and Co., should have made it clearer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted July 7, 2022 Share Posted July 7, 2022 20 minutes ago, Kyyle23 said: Or like how half this website declared that Kimbrel was untradeable and nobody would take that contract and you for sure wouldn't be getting a player back because there is no GM that dumb You could also say the people who thought the Sox should just spend the $1 million to buy out Kimbrel and spend the savings on a real left handed hitter probably had a better thought process than the Michigan, Harvard, and NU educated Sox GM. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted July 7, 2022 Share Posted July 7, 2022 10 minutes ago, Dick Allen said: You could also say the people who thought the Sox should just spend the $1 million to buy out Kimbrel and spend the savings on a real left handed hitter probably had a better thought process than the Michigan, Harvard, and NU educated Sox GM. Yeah for what Pollock has been, paying the $1 buyout would have been ok. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted July 7, 2022 Share Posted July 7, 2022 Yes. Pollock hit RHP pretty well, but chances are he was in a far more balanced line up when he faced them with other teams. Pitchers can sometimes struggle finding their slots when the line up is balanced. A real LHH would do this team some good. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted July 7, 2022 Share Posted July 7, 2022 46 minutes ago, Kyyle23 said: Or like how half this website declared that Kimbrel was untradeable and nobody would take that contract and you for sure wouldn't be getting a player back because there is no GM that dumb I was fully wrong about him being untradeable, but i was fully right about him no longer being a good reliever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox59 Posted July 7, 2022 Share Posted July 7, 2022 1 hour ago, Squirmin' for Yermin said: Drury would be such a White Sox acquisition. It is. But its hard to argue he wouldn't be a useful piece, and he can't cost much and doesn't crowd the picture past 2022. Problem is the Sox just don't have many roster spots to play with. We all know Leury isn't going anywhere. Harrison probably isn't either. You could option Sheets, but then we're exacerbating the lack of lineup balance because Drury is yet another righty. There just aren't many left handed options that are going to be available as we've discussed here before. But Sox made their own bed here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GREEDY Posted July 7, 2022 Share Posted July 7, 2022 54 minutes ago, Kyyle23 said: Or like how half this website declared that Kimbrel was untradeable and nobody would take that contract and you for sure wouldn't be getting a player back because there is no GM that dumb They were more right than I believed. I figured there was no way Hahn picks up the option unless they were keeping Kimbrel or if he had positive trade value. Instead he traded him for a player that had seemingly slightly negative value, that couldn't play RF or bat left handed. The only GM that dumb was our GM. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted July 7, 2022 Share Posted July 7, 2022 I will also say this again. If we are giving up high end guys, no rentals. If you can get a guy for 2-4 years, sure. But rentals are a terrible fit for a terrible team unless the Ghost of Julio Cruz is coming through that door. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted July 7, 2022 Share Posted July 7, 2022 22 minutes ago, GREEDY said: They were more right than I believed. I figured there was no way Hahn picks up the option unless they were keeping Kimbrel or if he had positive trade value. Instead he traded him for a player that had seemingly slightly negative value, that couldn't play RF or bat left handed. The only GM that dumb was our GM. The player not performing up to his normal levels has nothing to do with it. Every GM has dumb and smart moments. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted July 7, 2022 Share Posted July 7, 2022 32 minutes ago, Balta1701 said: I was fully wrong about him being untradeable, but i was fully right about him no longer being a good reliever. Even Though I argued with you about it a few months ago, I meant it when I said half this website thought it wasn't getting done. It wasn't just you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WBWSF Posted July 7, 2022 Share Posted July 7, 2022 Being at yesterdays game was alot of fun. Most games I've been to this year have bored me to death because of the lack of hitting. Having Eloy in the lineup producing helps the team tremendously. Hopefully he can continue hitting and the team will be in the hunt for the playoffs. I'm hoping the White Sox become buyers instead of sellers at the dealine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T R U Posted July 7, 2022 Share Posted July 7, 2022 2 minutes ago, WBWSF said: Being at yesterdays game was alot of fun. Most games I've been to this year have bored me to death because of the lack of hitting. Having Eloy in the lineup producing helps the team tremendously. Hopefully he can continue hitting and the team will be in the hunt for the playoffs. I'm hoping the White Sox become buyers instead of sellers at the dealine. The Sox were never and are never going to be sellers at the deadline, even if this team loses the next 12 games 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted July 7, 2022 Share Posted July 7, 2022 1 hour ago, Dick Allen said: Yes. Pollock hit RHP pretty well, but chances are he was in a far more balanced line up when he faced them with other teams. Pitchers can sometimes struggle finding their slots when the line up is balanced. A real LHH would do this team some good. I also believe this. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poppysox Posted July 7, 2022 Share Posted July 7, 2022 38 minutes ago, Kyyle23 said: The player not performing up to his normal levels has nothing to do with it. Every GM has dumb and smart moments. I agree that all GMs have both smart and dumb moments but Tampa has more smart moments than most. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Posted July 7, 2022 Share Posted July 7, 2022 22 minutes ago, T R U said: The Sox were never and are never going to be sellers at the deadline, even if this team loses the next 12 games This seems accurate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenSox Posted July 7, 2022 Share Posted July 7, 2022 The Sox have 5 viable starters, so starter insurance doesn't seem like the most efficient use of resources. These guys are decent pitchers: high K rates (loved by Hahn analytics) but also high walk rates, which will fit right in. Shouldn't make a move anyway until after the all star break. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeC Posted July 7, 2022 Share Posted July 7, 2022 3 hours ago, Squirmin' for Yermin said: Drury would be such a White Sox acquisition. No - Joey Votto would be the quintessential White Sox acquisition. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted July 7, 2022 Share Posted July 7, 2022 3 hours ago, 2Deep said: How many left handed hitting 2nd baseman are out there that you can acquire? I don't really see many if any at all the teams would be willing to trade. Exactly, which is why Lowe would be an interesting acquisition despite a down season and his current back issue. He probably isn’t even available and the price would likely be too high even if he was, but you just never know with the Rays. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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