July 20, 20223 yr 2 minutes ago, Sleepy Harold said: Take this with an EXTREME grain of salt, but.... Translation : According to my sources, several teams such as: #Mets, #Yankees,#Cardinals, #Dodgers, #WhiteSox are preparing offers to try to take Juan Soto from the Nationals
July 20, 20223 yr there is next to zero chance the Sox would put together a package impressive enough, plus if it was possible, there would be less than a zero chance they ever could extend him.
July 20, 20223 yr Let me put it this way. This would be the most Kenny Williams move ever. Also, with as bad as the TLR regime has been, does eventually JR feel the obligation to give him what he needs to win?
July 20, 20223 yr I'd give them Vaughn if I had to but I'd give them money and another prospect to take Eloy instead.
July 20, 20223 yr 7 minutes ago, Dick Allen said: there is next to zero chance the Sox would put together a package impressive enough, plus if it was possible, there would be less than a zero chance they ever could extend him. True on the 1st part but talk about extending him is pointless and shouldn't factor into the equation of trading for him.
July 20, 20223 yr Too bad the Sox couldn't come up with the extra $200-300k when they almost signed him as an amateur.
July 20, 20223 yr I think if Vaughn had an extra year of control, him being the centerpiece for Soto would be much more appealing to the Nat’s. Instead we wasted a year of control to have him play in like three games over the first two weeks of last season.
July 20, 20223 yr 3 minutes ago, CaliSoxFanViaSWside said: True on the 1st part but talk about extending him is pointless and shouldn't factor into the equation of trading for him. I get that thinking in a way, but for what it is going to cost, sustained winning ends if he leaves.
July 20, 20223 yr 15 minutes ago, Dick Allen said: there is next to zero chance the Sox would put together a package impressive enough, plus if it was possible, there would be less than a zero chance they ever could extend him. This is just flat out wrong. Is there any other team that could offer a package that started with two young impact type players like Vaughn and Kopech? They also have an ascending top 50 prospect in Montgomery as well. I would rather take Vaughn, Kopech, and Montgomery over 3 top 10-20 prospects all day. You are right though, there is less than zero chance they could ever extend him.
July 20, 20223 yr 13 minutes ago, CaliSoxFanViaSWside said: True on the 1st part but talk about extending him is pointless and shouldn't factor into the equation of trading for him. We need to truly look at this as a 2.5 year rental. Try to win one of the next 3 WS with him.
July 20, 20223 yr 21 minutes ago, Dick Allen said: there is next to zero chance the Sox would put together a package impressive enough, plus if it was possible, there would be less than a zero chance they ever could extend him. The last time they tried for someone like this - they wouldn't take on Dontrell Willis. I have to imagine in this high stakes game with the amount of $ you'd have to committ to Soto + having to take on a contract, there is zero chance the Sox are in on this. But it would be total White Sox - do it all now when you have to give up talent and everything else vs. just have played ball with Harper or Machado in a depressed market.
July 20, 20223 yr 10 minutes ago, Dick Allen said: I get that thinking in a way, but for what it is going to cost, sustained winning ends if he leaves. This window is closing faster than you think. Giolito, Anderson and Cease will be free agents close to the same time Soto will be.
July 20, 20223 yr 6 minutes ago, HOFHurt35 said: This window is closing faster than you think. Giolito, Anderson and Cease will be free agents close to the same time Soto will be. Even if a rental, acquiring Soto makes sense. The Sox can't afford to trade Kopech. I'd build my package around Eloy, Vaughn and Montgomery Edited July 20, 20223 yr by Jack Parkman
July 20, 20223 yr 8 minutes ago, hi8is said: No thanks. Man, you guys are crazy. Just from a player standpoint, Juan Soto is a 23 year old absolute superstar.
July 20, 20223 yr 20 minutes ago, Dick Allen said: I get that thinking in a way, but for what it is going to cost, sustained winning ends if he leaves. it's ending anyway
July 20, 20223 yr My wild trade proposal if they can secure Soto 1st. Or maybe before . Offer the Rangers Lance Lynn and a prospect for Martin Perez, a known Astros killer and upcoming free agent. Yes the Rangers might not be open to an older guy with his contract but it might depend on what other teams offer for Perez. Likely they get a decent prospect for him from one of the other AL contenders maybe even the Twins or Guardians. It would clear some salary for Soto's upcoming arbitration money. Or maybe just trade Lynn to whoever in the NL puts any prospect value in him and don't complete the trade unless the Rangers say yes to the Sox other offer for Perez. Problem is with the Sox farm they probably can't get both and probably can't even beat other offers for Soto and Perez unless its a quantity and quality package that includes some combination of players like Sheets, Burger, Crochet, Vaughn, Colas ,Montgomery, Carlos Perez, Sosa, and various others in our Top Ten prospects. If there's no way to get Soto shift to Bryan Reynolds or Happ plus Perez, which seems a lot more likely. I'd do the best I could to get Perez and keep him away from the Twins or Guardians.
July 20, 20223 yr 1 minute ago, T R U said: Man, you guys are crazy. Just from a player standpoint, Juan Soto is a 23 year old absolute superstar. I'd think Vaughn, Kopech and Montgomery are up there for the Nats. Maybe Vera too. Trading Vaughn would hurt, but it would help clear out our 1B/DH logjam. You could then extend Abreu for another year or two and see if Burger can learn 1B. You'd be decent to solid at 1B and amazing in RF, which is a better combo than they have now. Kopech I'd balk at potentially. I think Cease and Kopech is our dynamite 1/2 in the future. I wonder if they would take Crochet? They could rehab him and put him in the minors to stretch out as a starter. I think that'd be better for his career. Montgomery would REALLY hurt - no guarantee he'll keep this up and be great, but I'd be worried about trading away a special player with tons of control for a special player who is only here for 2 years realistically.
July 20, 20223 yr 6 minutes ago, Jack Parkman said: Even if a rental, acquiring Soto makes sense. The Sox can't afford to trade Kopech. I'd build my package around Eloy, Vaughn and Montgomery Which combination would provide more wins for the Chicago White Sox for the remainder of this year and the next two years. Juan Soto and Davis Martin or Andrew Vaughn and Michael Kopech? Considering that Juan Soto alone provides more wins than both Vaughn and Kopech, its an easy choice for me. Its all wishful thinking anyways.
July 20, 20223 yr 24 minutes ago, Dick Allen said: I get that thinking in a way, but for what it is going to cost, sustained winning ends if he leaves. It helps to think that the Sox have no sustained winning future anyway beyond the Soto years. By then we'll know if Moncada is a real player and if Eloy will ever stay healthy. lus Gilito will be gone, Lynn will be gone , whats left of the core will be lots more expensive. JR could live to be 100 but at some near future date he's likely to be replaced as Chairman further muddying the waters of future Sox teams.
July 20, 20223 yr I don’t think this trade will happen, but what about something like Vaughn, Crochet, Montgomery, and Colas?
July 20, 20223 yr 40 minutes ago, CentralChamps21 said: I'd give them Vaughn if I had to but I'd give them money and another prospect to take Eloy instead. Why would they want Eloy? It makes no sense.
July 20, 20223 yr 50 minutes ago, Kyyle23 said: he put the English version up too What was it again that he reported in the offseason with the sox?
July 20, 20223 yr Anyway, didn't see that taking Corbin's contract was a requirement. That takes the Sox out of the picture. No way JR signs off on that.
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