Squirmin' for Yermin Posted December 21, 2022 Share Posted December 21, 2022 even just a Kelly for Escobar swap makes sense for both clubs. I'll predict Hendriks will be on the Mets by the end of Eve's Eve (23rd). Seems to be some smokey Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirmin' for Yermin Posted December 21, 2022 Share Posted December 21, 2022 8 minutes ago, Chick Mercedes said: If they do a deal just to do a deal, more fuel to the fire to be mad at this team. Deal isn't worth doing without a helpful prospect like Mauricio at least. Mauricio isn't a good prospect in a Hendriks trade.. His star has faded quite a bit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted December 21, 2022 Share Posted December 21, 2022 1 minute ago, Squirmin' for Yermin said: even just a Kelly for Escobar swap makes sense for both clubs. I'll predict Hendriks will be on the Mets by the end of Eve's Eve (23rd). Seems to be some smokey This is what I was thinking. They're being paid similar amounts of money. Escobar doesn't have a spot on the Mets anymore. The Mets can always try to build a better bullpen. Kelly is wasted on the Sox right now as probably the 5th best reliever on the team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colome's Hat Posted December 21, 2022 Share Posted December 21, 2022 2 minutes ago, Squirmin' for Yermin said: even just a Kelly for Escobar swap makes sense for both clubs. I'll predict Hendriks will be on the Mets by the end of Eve's Eve (23rd). Seems to be some smokey I think this is more likely than Hendriks being dealt. They already have Robertson who was a successful closer. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flavum Posted December 21, 2022 Share Posted December 21, 2022 2 minutes ago, Squirmin' for Yermin said: even just a Kelly for Escobar swap makes sense for both clubs. I'll predict Hendriks will be on the Mets by the end of Eve's Eve (23rd). Seems to be some smokey Aka Festivus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted December 21, 2022 Share Posted December 21, 2022 3 minutes ago, Squirmin' for Yermin said: even just a Kelly for Escobar swap makes sense for both clubs. I'll predict Hendriks will be on the Mets by the end of Eve's Eve (23rd). Seems to be some smokey How dare you. It’s called Festivus. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirmin' for Yermin Posted December 21, 2022 Share Posted December 21, 2022 Just now, chw42 said: This is what I was thinking. They're being paid similar amounts of money. Escobar doesn't have a spot on the Mets anymore. The Mets can always try to build a better bullpen. Kelly is wasted on the Sox right now as probably the 5th best reliever on the team. It allocates a glut of our RPs to a position of need. Sameish money. That's a deal that should get done if nothing does happen with Hendriks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirmin' for Yermin Posted December 21, 2022 Share Posted December 21, 2022 (edited) 1 minute ago, flavum said: Aka Festivus Eve's Eve. Big family day for us LOL Edited December 21, 2022 by Squirmin' for Yermin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colome's Hat Posted December 21, 2022 Share Posted December 21, 2022 Also, is it possible that Gravesman is the one sent to the Mets? Now that TLR is gone, this especially seems likely. I think the fact that they had Liam talk with Pedro right after he was hired indicates that he is going to be here next year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted December 21, 2022 Share Posted December 21, 2022 I feel like Hendriks won’t be here come Christmas. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxBlanco Posted December 21, 2022 Share Posted December 21, 2022 10 minutes ago, SoxBlanco said: Any chance we can get a third team involved in this that is rebuilding and is willing to take Grandal along with a prospect or two? How about something like this: Mets get: Hendriks (and they save $8M) White Sox get: McCann, Escobar, Dylan Smith or another random Tigers pitching prospect (and they save $10M) Tigers get: Grandal, Baty (and take on $18M). This is a first attempt. Let me know why it sucks (because it probably does) and we can adjust it accordingly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YouCanPutItOnTheBoardYES! Posted December 21, 2022 Share Posted December 21, 2022 Just now, SoxBlanco said: How about something like this: Mets get: Hendriks (and they save $8M) White Sox get: McCann, Escobar, Dylan Smith or another random Tigers pitching prospect (and they save $10M) Tigers get: Grandal, Baty (and take on $18M). This is a first attempt. Let me know why it sucks (because it probably does) and we can adjust it accordingly. No. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenSox Posted December 21, 2022 Share Posted December 21, 2022 If they are going to get Escobar and the certainty of his .295 OBP (September inflated; who is also aging with faltering defense) to avoid playing young players, then they should just trade most of them rather than let them rot on the vine. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chick Mercedes Posted December 21, 2022 Share Posted December 21, 2022 9 minutes ago, Squirmin' for Yermin said: Mauricio isn't a good prospect in a Hendriks trade.. His star has faded quite a bit Oh. Well the Sox need to move higher up the list. Evgen if they have to expand the deal. If they do it for another first baseman, are we serious? Keep Hendricks ffs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flash Posted December 21, 2022 Share Posted December 21, 2022 If you believe its feasible that Moncada, Robert, Gio bounce back, TA stays healthy and Grandal finds the fountain of youth, you can't very well trade Hendricks. If Hahn moves him now, it would look as though we were conceding...thats just bad optics. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted December 21, 2022 Share Posted December 21, 2022 1 minute ago, Flash said: If you believe its feasible that Moncada, Robert, Gio bounce back, TA stays healthy and Grandal finds the fountain of youth, you can't very well trade Hendricks. If Hahn moves him now, it would look as though we were conceding...thats just bad optics. Right. I have a feeling they don’t end up trading him. They want him. However, if he’s traded it needs to feel like an overpay. So my prediction is he stays. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCalChiSox Posted December 21, 2022 Share Posted December 21, 2022 36 minutes ago, Whisox05 said: Jimmy said if he is traded the return would be really good. This isn't really good 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirmin' for Yermin Posted December 21, 2022 Share Posted December 21, 2022 11 minutes ago, SoxBlanco said: How about something like this: Mets get: Hendriks (and they save $8M) White Sox get: McCann, Escobar, Dylan Smith or another random Tigers pitching prospect (and they save $10M) Tigers get: Grandal, Baty (and take on $18M). This is a first attempt. Let me know why it sucks (because it probably does) and we can adjust it accordingly. sounds like a disaster. So we don't get any good prospects, and trade the best player in the deal, and take on 2 bad contracts that may be worse than the one we gave up? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirmin' for Yermin Posted December 21, 2022 Share Posted December 21, 2022 8 minutes ago, Flash said: If you believe its feasible that Moncada, Robert, Gio bounce back, TA stays healthy and Grandal finds the fountain of youth, you can't very well trade Hendricks. If Hahn moves him now, it would look as though we were conceding...thats just bad optics. you absolutely can re-tool with our expensive bullpen and stay or get more competetive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCalChiSox Posted December 21, 2022 Share Posted December 21, 2022 12 minutes ago, SoxBlanco said: How about something like this: Mets get: Hendriks (and they save $8M) White Sox get: McCann, Escobar, Dylan Smith or another random Tigers pitching prospect (and they save $10M) Tigers get: Grandal, Baty (and take on $18M). This is a first attempt. Let me know why it sucks (because it probably does) and we can adjust it accordingly. It sucks because the deal involves trading LH in a transaction involving Baty but the Sox aren't ending up with Baty. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirmin' for Yermin Posted December 21, 2022 Share Posted December 21, 2022 1 minute ago, SoCalChiSox said: Jimmy said if he is traded the return would be really good. This isn't really good One of their top 2 prospects are the only prospects that make any sense in a deal. OR I guess they can target McNeil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCalChiSox Posted December 21, 2022 Share Posted December 21, 2022 (edited) 24 minutes ago, Squirmin' for Yermin said: even just a Kelly for Escobar swap makes sense for both clubs. I'll predict Hendriks will be on the Mets by the end of Eve's Eve (23rd). Seems to be some smokey It seems they might be able to do better than that just for Kelly at this point. Edited December 21, 2022 by SoCalChiSox Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCalChiSox Posted December 21, 2022 Share Posted December 21, 2022 2 minutes ago, Squirmin' for Yermin said: One of their top 2 prospects are the only prospects that make any sense in a deal. OR I guess they can target McNeil McNeil and McCann for LH makes sense. NYM need to throw in a little bit of cash for JM 2024 salary. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxBlanco Posted December 21, 2022 Share Posted December 21, 2022 5 minutes ago, Squirmin' for Yermin said: sounds like a disaster. So we don't get any good prospects, and trade the best player in the deal, and take on 2 bad contracts that may be worse than the one we gave up? Well the perk that you didn’t mention is that we are unloading Grandal. If that’s not valuable (honestly, I don’t know if it is), then the deal is horrendous for the Sox. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pal Posted December 21, 2022 Share Posted December 21, 2022 6 minutes ago, SoCalChiSox said: Jimmy said if he is traded the return would be really good. This isn't really good Not if it's mostly for salary relief. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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