December 27, 20223 yr 24 minutes ago, wegner said: Is he going to end up with a 1 year prove he's healthy contract??? I think Cohen's big mouth ruined that idea. Sounds like Correa has a pretty clear grievence if Cohen doesn't come through.
December 27, 20223 yr 42 minutes ago, wegner said: You've got to kinda feel for Scott Boras with these deals continuously falling through....damn doctors!!! Nah, Boras clearly didn't use enough metaphors to seal the deal!
December 27, 20223 yr 43 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said: I think Cohen's big mouth ruined that idea. Sounds like Correa has a pretty clear grievence if Cohen doesn't come through. I saw this mentioned earlier. How does Cohen’s statement legally affect this? (Honest question, in case you’re curious) edit: question for the board, not just SS2K Edited December 27, 20223 yr by Sox72
December 27, 20223 yr 19 minutes ago, Sox72 said: I saw this mentioned earlier. How does Cohen’s statement legally affect this? (Honest question, in case you’re curious) edit: question for the board, not just SS2K MLB tampering rules is what I read.
December 28, 20223 yr I wonder if the concern is more around the fact that they might not be able to get the deal insured because of this history. It's why it might not of held up any deal with the Twins. This isn't a new injury/issue for Correa, so amazed that it's causing this type of hold up. Edited December 28, 20223 yr by Look at Ray Ray Run
December 28, 20223 yr 22 minutes ago, Look at Ray Ray Run said: I wonder if the concern is more around the fact that they might not be able to get the deal insured because of this history. It's why it might not of held up any deal with the Twins. This isn't a new injury/issue for Correa, so amazed that it's causing this type of hold up. It’s 100% a part of the equation.
December 28, 20223 yr the astros cheated to win a world series... the worst the MLB will do to the Mets is fine them and take away a draft pick. It just sounds like he violated an unwritten rule. the Sox should see what they can get for Moncada if the deal falls through
December 28, 20223 yr 3 hours ago, wegner said: You've got to kinda feel for Scott Boras with these deals continuously falling through....damn doctors!!! No pity for Boras. I don't trust that he didn't try to downplay or even cover-up the injury. The guy tried like hell to sell Sox and others a badly injured Comforto last year. I suppose if I were a player, I'd want him on my side but my guess is there will be more info surfacing re: Correa in the days ahead and Boras won't come off as pitiable.
December 28, 20223 yr 3 hours ago, wegner said: You've got to kinda feel for Scott Boras with these deals continuously falling through....damn doctors!!! Yeah...how about a Go Fund Me page.
December 28, 20223 yr 16 minutes ago, poppysox said: Yeah...how about a Go Fund Me page. That or a government bail out for the poor guy.
January 6, 20233 yr On 12/27/2022 at 6:13 PM, Look at Ray Ray Run said: I wonder if the concern is more around the fact that they might not be able to get the deal insured because of this history. It's why it might not of held up any deal with the Twins. This isn't a new injury/issue for Correa, so amazed that it's causing this type of hold up. I'd be interested in knowing how the insurance companies are viewing the longer term contracts we are seeing. I think everyone is assuming that during year 9-10-11 etc of these contracts it is unlikely the player will be worth the salary due to age and wear and tear. It may be better for the player to be seriously injured and have the insurance company pay the majority of the salary at that point. So are insurance companies ever willing to insure the entirety of a 10-13 year contract on anyone? Or just players that have a 100% clean health at the time of signing? Or do they top out at 5-6 years and leave the remaining risk to the team?
January 6, 20233 yr 42 minutes ago, ThirdGen said: I'd be interested in knowing how the insurance companies are viewing the longer term contracts we are seeing. I think everyone is assuming that during year 9-10-11 etc of these contracts it is unlikely the player will be worth the salary due to age and wear and tear. It may be better for the player to be seriously injured and have the insurance company pay the majority of the salary at that point. So are insurance companies ever willing to insure the entirety of a 10-13 year contract on anyone? Or just players that have a 100% clean health at the time of signing? Or do they top out at 5-6 years and leave the remaining risk to the team? Steve Phillps the former GM, was talking about this on MLBN the other day. He said there is no way to get insurance on a pre existing condition. Correa's contract, no matter where he signs, is uninsurable.
January 6, 20233 yr 13 minutes ago, Dick Allen said: Steve Phillps the former GM, was talking about this on MLBN the other day. He said there is no way to get insurance on a pre existing condition. Correa's contract, no matter where he signs, is uninsurable. Not to mention, insurance cost is tied to risk. A policy like this is probably insanely expensive anyway, even if it was insurable. The quants who do those things for a living are really good at making sure the insurance companies come out ahead on everything in the long run.
January 6, 20233 yr 18 minutes ago, Dick Allen said: Steve Phillps the former GM, was talking about this on MLBN the other day. He said there is no way to get insurance on a pre existing condition. Correa's contract, no matter where he signs, is uninsurable. Did somebody say incentive based contract?
January 6, 20233 yr They also had a doctor on who said its' probable they see at least a little bit of arthritis. If anyone remembers the Boy Wonder, Robin Vetura's ankle injury, it was in spring training and gruesome. He came back and pllayed, and played really well for a while, but arthritis set in and he wound up retiring. it was so bad, he was using a cain. He had some surgery to relieve it.
January 6, 20233 yr 40 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said: Twins getting Correa on a great deal due to this fiasco would be a terrible outcome.
January 6, 20233 yr 12 minutes ago, ChiSox59 said: Twins getting Correa on a great deal due to this fiasco would be a terrible outcome. While it would definitely be annoying, the fact that his physical has been concerning enough for 2 teams to possibly pass on him shows that he might be toast physically.
January 6, 20233 yr 14 minutes ago, ChiSox59 said: Twins getting Correa on a great deal due to this fiasco would be a terrible outcome. $30 million a year in dead spending would be disastrous to Minnesota.
January 6, 20233 yr 11 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said: $30 million a year in dead spending would be disastrous to Minnesota. It would if it was actually dead spending. I obviously am not privy to Correa's medical records, but I think the chances he comes dead money anytime soon is remote.
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