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4-16 GT: Orioles at Sox (1:10pm) - Delayed til 3:30

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3 minutes ago, JoshPR said:

Now Jason just rambling...

What would you like him to do in this kind of game?

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  • ChiSoxFanMike
    ChiSoxFanMike

    Stop defending Tony. He was awful too and this season doesn’t change that.

  • Greg Hibbard
    Greg Hibbard

    Except both of these things can be true:  1) Tony La Russa was absolutely overmatched as a manager and made poor decisions throughout his Sox tenure that limited this team  AND 2) Rick

  • ChiSoxFanMike
    ChiSoxFanMike

    Rick sucks too. But to act like Tony doesn’t deserve any blame is ridiculous and stupid.

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That inning actually reduced Diekmans ERA! Good work, Jake. 

1 minute ago, soxfan49 said:

New regime?

One can only hope.

5 minutes ago, Saufley said:

Hopefully under the new regime the scouting staff will all be sent packing!

And maybe instead of half assing in free agency with mediocre acquisitions, take the $75 million you'd give a guy like Benintendi and invest in your front office, scouts, instructors, etc.  Go poach the personnel working for the Cardinals, Guardians, and Rays and pay them double.

7 minutes ago, Soxfest said:

Would not mind Eloy being traded.

That much of the core of the team, including Eloy, have gotten worse is a big reason they're in this mess.  They could trade anyone on this roster as far as I'm concerned.

JERRY, PLEASE SELL the EFFEN team to someone who would care about the product and the fans, NOT LOYALTY TO YOUR IDIOT FO STAFF . We need a GM who actually knows what he's doing unless the reason he sucks is because you and Kenny are pupeteers and don't allow him to do what he really wants to. when other teams wanted to hire Hahn, who you thought was a wiz kid, you made promises to promote him. You did and look at what happened. We caught lighting in the bottle. Hahn gets promoted a few years later and we've not been the same. Please SELL  

8 minutes ago, flavum said:

They literally could gut the 40-man with KW making the moves, and I would accept that. 

Except I can’t see it happening. I’d wager that there won’t be many deadline dumps at the trade deadline.

6 minutes ago, baseballgalaly said:

For what? A salary dump? 

There are so many guys on this team that are just salary dumps at this point. They're going to have to trade Cease and Robert if they want anything back and Cease's velocity drop this year is concerning. 

I think posters wanting another rebuild are going to be underwhelmed by the return they would get. This team is just not great as currently constructed and I hope Grifol has some say in how to retool this offseason. I doubt they would rebuild.

this team also needs a manager who actually knows what he's doing. 

5 minutes ago, wegner said:

I saw that score and said 7-9 is not that bad for how they've been playing.  Actually 6-10 is not that bad I guess for how they've been playing.

ANd 0 HR from 5 of the starting position players,Anderson, Vaughn, Eloy, Benintendi and Andrus.

14 minutes ago, Capn12 said:

This season is going to be a real test for Grifol. He doesn't have the added benefit of playing 19 against Detroit and Kansas City, like in the past.

It could legitimately be a 70-92 season.

No. White Sox didn't have an advantage last year. White Sox were a  mostly a .500 team against EAST-Central-West and Inter-league. They were a .500 team against every division by 1-2 games in each direction. 

This team could legitimately be looking at not winning a single series before May.

Just now, HOFHurt35 said:

And maybe instead of half assing in free agency with mediocre acquisitions, take the $75 million you'd give a guy like Benintendi and invest in your front office, scouts, instructors, etc.  Go poach the personnel working for the Cardinals, Guardians, and Rays and pay them double.

 

1 minute ago, HOFHurt35 said:

And maybe instead of half assing in free agency with mediocre acquisitions, take the $75 million you'd give a guy like Benintendi and invest in your front office, scouts, instructors, etc.  Go poach the personnel working for the Cardinals, Guardians, and Rays and pay them double.

 

Just now, AJ'S Cousin said:

JERRY, PLEASE SELL the EFFEN team to someone who would care about the product and the fans, NOT LOYALTY TO YOUR IDIOT FO STAFF . We need a GM who actually knows what he's doing unless the reason he sucks is because you and Kenny are pupeteers and don't allow him to do what he really wants to. when other teams wanted to hire Hahn, who you thought was a wiz kid, you made promises to promote him. You did and look at what happened. We caught lighting in the bottle. Hahn gets promoted a few years later and we've not been the same. Please SELL  

I look back at the years when Bill Veeck owned the team and I smile! And when these guys bought the Sox they somehow thought they were better than him.

He's showing us his inability to manage a pitching staff. he doesn't seem know when to take pitchers out or who he should put in.  Tired of watching Bummer and Diekman blowing it.

6 minutes ago, fathom said:

Yoan has put it together one season in his career.  His speed is way worse than was expected, and his power has been a gigantic let down IMO.  Power is the same thing missing with Timmy now also.

Was Tim Anderson ever really projected to be a this good of a major league player by anyone? Is he a success story or a failure story?

Moncada still is around a 3.5-4 WAR per 162 player. I still have confidence if he’s feeling good and playing he will rake, but that’s what’s missing for me. I don’t mind him being a 10 HR guy if he’s hitting .260 sporting an on base .350. I think the little injuries and illnesses go to his head quite a bit. 

…and that’s a White Sox stinker

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I don’t get what’s happened to Eloy this year.  He was legit really good last year when he actually played.  Just seems like we always have a player or two who completely underperforms in a given year for unknown reasons.

This team just sucks

3 minutes ago, Saufley said:

 

 

I look back at the years when Bill Veeck owned the team and I smile! And when these guys bought the Sox they somehow thought they were better than him.

JR and EE turned out to be the biggest con men on the planet.

They lost my respect way back on the night they clinched the division in 1983 and went on TV and trashed Harry Caray and Jimmy Piersall and of course trashed Veeck from the minute they bought the club from him.

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Burn this fucking team to the ground.  Launch JR, KW, & RH into the sun…

6 minutes ago, Greg Hibbard said:

Was Tim Anderson ever really projected to be a this good of a major league player by anyone? Is he a success story or a failure story?

Moncada still is around a 3.5-4 WAR per 162 player. I still have confidence if he’s feeling good and playing he will rake, but that’s what’s missing for me. I don’t mind him being a 10 HR guy if he’s hitting .260 sporting an on base .350. I think the little injuries and illnesses go to his head quite a bit. 

Agreed with last sentence, which means him having an achy back is a recipe for disaster 

9 HR from our starting position players and 8 for the backups.

13 minutes ago, Snopek said:

What would you like him to do in this kind of game?

I want the truth!

Where's Jay Cuda with the latest bullpen carnage numbers to depress...? 

4 minutes ago, Tnetennba said:

Burn this fucking team to the ground.  Launch JR, KW, & RH into the sun…

Yeah, they ain't fooling me on another rebuild.  No fucking way.  

I see other teams hiring capable, talented professionals, that really seem to have a handle on what it takes to build a winning organization . I truly wish that The White Sox could be one of those some day . doesn't appear that it will be in my lifetime.

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