Tony Posted June 22, 2023 Share Posted June 22, 2023 1 hour ago, Tnetennba said: A) The names Albert Belle and Shohei Ohtani shouldn’t be uttered in the same sentence. B) Even if the White Sox made a legit offer that didn’t get them laughed out of the conference room, why the f*** would Ohtani come to this wreck of a franchise? This. I really do believe he wants to go to a franchise that is ready to win, and is dedicated to winning. It's part of the reason it seems like LAA isn't going to keep him. I really believe if the Sox were the highest bidder, and not something like 100 million+ over the highest bidder, Ohtani would pick Option 2 over the Sox. If you signed Ohtani, kept Giolito as well...I STILL don't think this team is very good. That's how far off they are. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tnetennba Posted June 23, 2023 Share Posted June 23, 2023 10 minutes ago, Tony said: This. I really do believe he wants to go to a franchise that is ready to win, and is dedicated to winning. It's part of the reason it seems like LAA isn't going to keep him. I really believe if the Sox were the highest bidder, and not something like 100 million+ over the highest bidder, Ohtani would pick Option 2 over the Sox. If you signed Ohtani, kept Giolito as well...I STILL don't think this team is very good. That's how far off they are. Yup. It would take a Cohen like new owner to completely transform how this entire franchise operates before a marquee FA ever considered coming here. Ohtani + this current team isn’t winning anything, and why would he burn more of his prime waiting for the roster to be good enough when he just left the same situation? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted June 23, 2023 Share Posted June 23, 2023 5 hours ago, Quin said: They offer: $600 million A unique Ohtani-themed home run celebration feature Re-theme the FUNdamentals deck to "Ohanti's SHO-Time Theater for Kids" Dedicated Japanese broadcast A live orchestra performs his walk-up music. They already have #4 whether he wants it or not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted June 23, 2023 Share Posted June 23, 2023 58 minutes ago, Tony said: This. I really do believe he wants to go to a franchise that is ready to win, and is dedicated to winning. It's part of the reason it seems like LAA isn't going to keep him. I really believe if the Sox were the highest bidder, and not something like 100 million+ over the highest bidder, Ohtani would pick Option 2 over the Sox. If you signed Ohtani, kept Giolito as well...I STILL don't think this team is very good. That's how far off they are. That's almost spending as much as the Padres did on Machado Tatis and Bogaerts to get Ohtani and Giolito. That's even crazier, actually, with the volatility of pitchers with one TJS behind them and then the added risk of pitching well into their 30s. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Posted June 23, 2023 Share Posted June 23, 2023 47 minutes ago, Tnetennba said: Yup. It would take a Cohen like new owner to completely transform how this entire franchise operates before a marquee FA ever considered coming here. Ohtani + this current team isn’t winning anything, and why would he burn more of his prime waiting for the roster to be good enough when he just left the same situation? I think Harper or Machado would have come here in they beat everyone else in offers. Money wins out 9/10. I think Ohtani is a little different, I think he really wants to go to a winner. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donny Lucy's Avocado Farm Posted June 23, 2023 Share Posted June 23, 2023 6 hours ago, Harry Chappas said: Dodgers appear to have set this up for a number of years and will roll. This is the right answer. There is a reason they didn't plug holes this offseason and instead went with org guys for 2B and SS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted June 23, 2023 Share Posted June 23, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, Tnetennba said: Yup. It would take a Cohen like new owner to completely transform how this entire franchise operates before a marquee FA ever considered coming here. Ohtani + this current team isn’t winning anything, and why would he burn more of his prime waiting for the roster to be good enough when he just left the same situation? It would be a lot like when the Rangers offered ARod that massive deal. No way in hell the Sox could build a team around him. And Sox fans would quickly grow weary of supporting a team with just one or two superstars. The novelty would wear off quickly and then all the talk would turn to potential trades...same issues the much better financed Angels have been dealing with for 2-3 years now. They actually have a GENUINELY tough call deciding what to do in LAA land compared to any decision tree/matrix that Hahn faces. Edited June 23, 2023 by caulfield12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tnetennba Posted June 23, 2023 Share Posted June 23, 2023 17 minutes ago, Tony said: I think Harper or Machado would have come here in they beat everyone else in offers. Money wins out 9/10. I think Ohtani is a little different, I think he really wants to go to a winner. Before the rebuild flopped and the FO/org proved to be completely incompetent, I agree Harper or Machado come here if the money were right. This org is it’s current state, this putrid festering wreck with zero hope or direction, I just don’t see anyone coming unless the offer blows every other out of the water. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Grinder Posted June 23, 2023 Share Posted June 23, 2023 It's a pipe dream. Just like last winter we were dreaming of signing Judge. Nice thoughts though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reiks12 Posted June 23, 2023 Share Posted June 23, 2023 Ohtani would never play for the White Sox Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
South Side Hit Men Posted June 23, 2023 Share Posted June 23, 2023 Wonder if the CBA allows a player to be compensated in part or whole with ownership shares in a team (either discounted or awarded in full). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lip Man 1 Posted June 23, 2023 Share Posted June 23, 2023 11 minutes ago, South Side Hit Men said: Wonder if the CBA allows a player to be compensated in part or whole with ownership shares in a team (either discounted or awarded in full). I don't believe any active player can own any type of percentage in a team. When they retire, of course, that's different. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted June 23, 2023 Share Posted June 23, 2023 2 hours ago, Tony said: I think Harper or Machado would have come here in they beat everyone else in offers. Money wins out 9/10. I think Ohtani is a little different, I think he really wants to go to a winner. 100 percent spot on. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Middle Buffalo Posted June 23, 2023 Share Posted June 23, 2023 (edited) I’d feel bad for Ohtani if he signed with the Sox. They don’t deserve him. We’ll be lucky to end up with a few of his relatives. Edited June 23, 2023 by Middle Buffalo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTB Posted June 23, 2023 Share Posted June 23, 2023 5 hours ago, Tnetennba said: Would that even be enough? Who else is offering a live orchestra for walk up music. That’s the extra sauce we need! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted June 23, 2023 Share Posted June 23, 2023 https://www.yahoo.com/sports/hern-ndez-shohei-ohtani-wont-120054097.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FloydBannister1983 Posted June 23, 2023 Share Posted June 23, 2023 8 hours ago, WBWSF said: Money. If JR offered him the most money he might sign here. We’ve seen before that players will take less to go elsewhere. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthSideGeorgia Posted June 23, 2023 Share Posted June 23, 2023 (edited) Sox sign Ohtani to 10yr $600 million Sox use 25 other $780k Charlotte Knights and Birmingham Barons players on roster $60 million + $19.8 million = $79.8 million. Cost savings. This is easy. Get it done… 😂 Edited June 26, 2023 by SouthSideGeorgia 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4uckOffCommieScum Posted June 23, 2023 Share Posted June 23, 2023 7 hours ago, SouthSideGeorgia said: $60 million + $19.8 million = $89.8 million. 🤔 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted June 23, 2023 Share Posted June 23, 2023 11 minutes ago, FourEyesShottenhoffer said: 🤔 If that strategy was actually effective Trout and Ohtani would actually have a series of playoff wins to add to their resumes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4uckOffCommieScum Posted June 23, 2023 Share Posted June 23, 2023 7 minutes ago, caulfield12 said: If that strategy was actually effective Trout and Ohtani would actually have a series of playoff wins to add to their resumes. They would also have to fire their accountant Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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