2023 College Football Thread

[caulfield12]

2 minutes ago, South Side Hit Men said:

https://www.cbssports.com/college-football/news/greg-sankey-says-leaving-sec-out-of-college-football-playoff-is-not-the-real-world-of-college-football/

This.

The other nine conferences are horseshit compared to the SEC. Have been since the start of the Bowl Coalition Era 31 years ago.

Alabama should play the winner of the AFC vs. NFC game for the World Championship, and Georgia should face the winner of the four team CFB playoff for the NCAA Division 1A Championship.

Most Bowl Game Wins in CFB History

1. 45 Alabama
2. 37 Georgia
3. 34 Southern California

Most National Championships in CFB History

1. 18 Yale
2. 16 Alabama
3. 15 Princeton

Most National Championships Bowl Coalition / Alliance / Championship Series / College Football Playoff Era

1. 7 Alabama (1992, 2009, 2011, 2012, 2015, 2017, 2020
2. 3 Florida (1996. 2006, 2008)
3. 3 Florida State (1993, 1999, 2013)
4. 3 Nebraska (1994, 1995, 1997)
5. 3 Louisiana State (2003, 2007, 2019)
6. 2 Clemson (2016, 2018)
7. 2 Georgia (2021, 2022)
8. 2 Ohio State (2002, 2014)
9. 1 Auburn (2010)
10. 1 Miami, Florida (2001)
11. 1 Oklahoma (2000)
12. 1 Tennessee (1998)
13. 1 Texas (2005)

If Alabama wouldn't have lost at home to Texas...sure.

[South Side Hit Men]

1 minute ago, caulfield12 said:

If Alabama wouldn't have lost at home to Texas...sure.

They won the best conference in College Football, beat the two time undefeated National Champions.

Washington, Florida State, Texas and Alabama. Ban Michigan for NCAA Violations.

Alabama and Georgia may both be in the Top Four when Sagarin Ratings are refreshed tomorrow.

http://sagarin.com/sports/cfsend.htm#Predictions_with_Totals

[CentralChamps21]

7 minutes ago, South Side Hit Men said:

They won the best conference in College Football, beat the two time undefeated National Champions.

Washington, Florida State, Texas and Alabama. Ban Michigan for NCAA Violations.

Alabama and Georgia may both be in the Top Four when Sagarin Ratings are refreshed tomorrow.

http://sagarin.com/sports/cfsend.htm#Predictions_with_Totals

I agree Michigan should be banned but that's not happening. Michigan, Washington and Texas are in.

Florida State hasn't won yet but even if they do I think they drop to #5 and Alabama is in.

[caulfield12]

Has an undefeated P5 team ever been denied since they changed to four teams?

[CentralChamps21]

10 minutes ago, caulfield12 said:

Has an undefeated P5 team ever been denied since they changed to four teams?

No, and if FSU's QB hadn't gotten hurt we still wouldn't, but without him FSU is clearly not one of the four best teams. Michigan is going to be #1 and if you ask them who they'd rather play they'd 100% pick FSU over Alabama.

[whitesoxfan99]

11 hours ago, CentralChamps21 said:

No, and if FSU's QB hadn't gotten hurt we still wouldn't, but without him FSU is clearly not one of the four best teams. Michigan is going to be #1 and if you ask them who they'd rather play they'd 100% pick FSU over Alabama.

Yep.  Really sucks for FSU but they are basically Iowa without their QB.  Hopefully the committee doesn’t repeat its mistake from last year of leaving Bama out (im assuming Michigan, Texas and Washington are all in) for a clearly inferior team.

[South Side Hit Men]

1 hour ago, whitesoxfan99 said:

Yep.  Really sucks for FSU but they are basically Iowa without their QB.  Hopefully the committee doesn’t repeat its mistake from last year of leaving Bama out (im assuming Michigan, Texas and Washington are all in) for a clearly inferior team.

Updated Sagarin Ratings:

(vs. Top 30)

1. 97.50 Michigan 13-0 (3-0) Big Ten (sic) Conference
2. 95.54 The Ohio State University 11-1 (2-1)
3. 94.37 Roll Damn Tide 12-1 (5-1) Southeastern Conference
4. 93.92 Georgia 12-1 (3-1)
5. 93.81 Texas 12-1 (6-1) Big 12 Conference
6. 93.43 Oregon 11-2 (3-2)

• 10. 88.93 Washington 13-0 (6-0) Pacific 12 Conference
• 12. 88.24 Florida State 13-0 (3-0)  Atlantic Coast Conference
• 25. 80.75 Southern Methodist 11-2 (0-2) American Conference
• 26. 80.11 Louisville 10-3 (1-1)
• 27. 79.84 South Dakota State 12-0 1-AA (0-0)
• 29. 78.78 Oklahoma State 9-4 (3-2)
• 30. 78.29 Iowa 10-3 (1-2)
• 42. 76.48 Boise State 8-5 (0-1) Mountain West Conference
• 45. 75.77 Troy 11-2 (0-1) Sun Belt Conference
• 50. 73.20 Liberty 13-0 (0-0) Conference USA
• 75. 68.27 Miami, Ohio 11-2 (0-0) Mid American Conference

 

 

[T R U]

So dumb, Georgia is clearly one of the top 4 teams in college football. 

[fathom]

9 minutes ago, T R U said:

So dumb, Georgia is clearly one of the top 4 teams in college football. 

I’m not so sure this year.  

[chw42]

8 minutes ago, fathom said:

I’m not so sure this year.  

They didn't play anyone outside of Alabama, Missouri, and Ole Miss. And they lost to the best of those 3. Sucks for them but maybe schedule harder out of conference games. Alabama did and it didn't hurt them even when they lost against Texas.

[CentralChamps21]

9 minutes ago, fathom said:

I’m not so sure this year.  

Here's the SEC's problem: they routinely schedule downright horrid non-conference schedules and rely on their mid-tier teams ending up 8-4 or 9-3 and highly ranked and then their top teams point to those as great wins. Look at the SEC teams and who they've beaten aside from each other. Missouri beat K-State and Mississippi beat Tulane and Kentucky beat Louisville and I can't find any other quality wins for the conference.

Can we really say Georgia and Alabama are clearly among the four best teams when all they did was beat a bunch of teams whose best wins are against Louisville and Kansas State? The two teams that did play top non-conference games, LSU and Alabama, lost and neither game was particularly close.

[Buehrle>Wood]

I think I read SEC went 7-9 against p5 teams OOC. FSU went 2-0 against the SEC. So yeah, rewarding the conference is stupid.

[fathom]

24 minutes ago, chw42 said:

They didn't play anyone outside of Alabama, Missouri, and Ole Miss. And they lost to the best of those 3. Sucks for them but maybe schedule harder out of conference games. Alabama did and it didn't hurt them even when they lost against Texas.

They also got every break possible in a game against an average Ga Tech team and won by single digits.

[Texsox]

I would love to know the NIL "payrolls" for the top teams. 

 

[T R U]

2 hours ago, fathom said:

They also got every break possible in a game against an average Ga Tech team and won by single digits.

Texas lost to OU and barely beat teams like Houston and TCU

You can make arguments for almost everyone like that

[fathom]

17 minutes ago, T R U said:

Texas lost to OU and barely beat teams like Houston and TCU

You can make arguments for almost everyone like that

Agreed, but this wasn’t the UGa team of the last few seasons.

[South Side Hit Men]

42 minutes ago, Texsox said:

I would love to know the NIL "payrolls" for the top teams. 

Yes, old mostly white people in their 40s - 80s should reap every single penny off of CFB and CBB, leaving the players playing for free beyond a largely worthless scholarship.

You have posted the same post 58,000 times.

2 hours ago, CentralChamps21 said:

Here's the SEC's problem: they routinely schedule downright horrid non-conference schedules and rely on their mid-tier teams ending up 8-4 or 9-3 and highly ranked and then their top teams point to those as great wins.

Yet nearly every single year the SEC Champion b**** slaps the rest of college football and wins the National Championship.

The Big Ten is Rick Hahn at the Kiddie Table. They should have been content with their Rose Bowl Circle Jerk arrangement with the PAC-10. They are primarily a basketball conference.

[Texsox]

The universities who are reaping the rewards should be paying. But you probably didn't think of that in your rush to reply.

Still is it like other pro sports where you can buy a championship?

[chw42]

1 hour ago, T R U said:

Texas lost to OU and barely beat teams like Houston and TCU

You can make arguments for almost everyone like that

Texas was also up by 3 scores in 2 of those games. They can play with anyone they just take their foot off the pedal once they have a comfortable lead. I think they've kind of corrected that with how badly they destroyed Texas Tech and OSU the past 2 games.

[South Side Hit Men]

Universities aren't the ones reaping CFB/CBB cash. The coaches, bloated athletic departments, the leeche CEOs running bowl games, and media outlets are the primary beneficiaries of the system, not the players drawing millions to watch on TV and near / above 100,000 at stadiums.

For the dozen plus lower tier bowls held solely for mid December ESPN programing purposes (The Ball Park Franks Suck My Weiner Bowl), participating universities have to buy tens of thousands of tickets nobody wants funded out of student activity fees. Only 1/3 of the bowls actually generate revenue and nearly 100% of it is captured among the "Power 5". 

[fathom]

Non CFP bowl games are more worthless than ever before.  Any upperclassman with NFL talent should opt out.

[Buehrle>Wood]

1 minute ago, fathom said:

Non CFP bowl games are more worthless than ever before.  Any upperclassman with NFL talent should opt out.

FSU should absolutely not play their game. They've already been told their games are worthless. Why ever play in an even more worthless game?

[bmags]

Props to the committee. Did what everyone deep down wanted, and gave the others the righteous ranting against the committee. Everyone wins.

 

[caulfield12]

https://global.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/39033710/cfp-anger-index-unpacking-outrage-florida-state-snub-2023

 

1. FSU

It's a joke.

devastated. heartbroken. In so much disbelief rn, I wish my leg broke earlier in the season so y'all could see this team is much more than the quarterback. I thought results matter. 13-0 and this roster matches up across any team in those top 4 rankings. I am so sorry. Go Noles!

— Jordan Travis (@jordantrav13) December 3, 2023

2. Washington not #1 over MICH

3. UGA

4. Oklahoma not in the New Year's Six

5. Liberty over SMU

[caulfield12]

They really didn't even need a committee.

Once they decided they couldn't take either Alabama or Texas without taking the other...any discussion was basically over, as it became inevitable both FSU and UGA would be locked out by the weekend's results.

Well, not even results with FSU...but "perception" of their 3rd string QB.