WBWSF Posted August 5, 2023 Share Posted August 5, 2023 There's an article on Twitter that states that JR just spent $17 million dollars on land near the United Center. Don't know if he wants a new baseball stadium there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted August 5, 2023 Share Posted August 5, 2023 21 minutes ago, WBWSF said: There's an article on Twitter that states that JR just spent $17 million dollars on land near the United Center. Don't know if he wants a new baseball stadium there. More parking… 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tnetennba Posted August 5, 2023 Share Posted August 5, 2023 Wealthy man buys land near land he owns. News at 11. The West Loop is hopping. Could simply be a purchase to flip later. It happens all the time. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chimpton Posted August 5, 2023 Share Posted August 5, 2023 1 hour ago, caulfield12 said: More parking… Why? Is he anticipating big crowds? 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tnetennba Posted August 5, 2023 Share Posted August 5, 2023 3 minutes ago, Chimpton said: Why? Is he anticipating big crowds? The Bulls still draw well. But there is already ample parking. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulie4Pres Posted August 5, 2023 Share Posted August 5, 2023 New White Sox Stadium? Because a POS billionaire spent $17M? Lmao 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiliIrishHammock24 Posted August 5, 2023 Share Posted August 5, 2023 https://therealdeal.com/chicago/2023/08/04/jerry-reinsdorf-makes-17m-land-play-near-united-center/ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted August 5, 2023 Share Posted August 5, 2023 Parking >>> Sabes staff 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted August 5, 2023 Share Posted August 5, 2023 Owning baseball teams is such a tough business. According to JR, it’s next to impossible to make money. Luckily, he was able to scrape up $17 million for this purchase. 4 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerry McNertney Posted August 5, 2023 Share Posted August 5, 2023 Maybe in Charlotte. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nrockway Posted August 5, 2023 Share Posted August 5, 2023 Interesting. It won't be for a stadium though, the yuppification of the West Loop is extending out and this is for speculation purposes or to turn it into a planned development. He bought another lot near here too last year. Probably more. Note that this is happening near the UC and not near Comiskey. There is very little real estate development value around the ballpark which suggests that there won't ever be a new Sox ballpark. The team is gone when the next ownership group decides the stadium is done. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lip Man 1 Posted August 5, 2023 Share Posted August 5, 2023 8 hours ago, nrockway said: Interesting. It won't be for a stadium though, the yuppification of the West Loop is extending out and this is for speculation purposes or to turn it into a planned development. He bought another lot near here too last year. Probably more. Note that this is happening near the UC and not near Comiskey. There is very little real estate development value around the ballpark which suggests that there won't ever be a new Sox ballpark. The team is gone when the next ownership group decides the stadium is done. No they aren't. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoUEvenShift Posted August 5, 2023 Share Posted August 5, 2023 10 hours ago, Jerry McNertney said: Maybe in Charlotte. One can hope Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kids Can Play Posted August 5, 2023 Share Posted August 5, 2023 8 hours ago, nrockway said: Interesting. It won't be for a stadium though, the yuppification of the West Loop is extending out and this is for speculation purposes or to turn it into a planned development. He bought another lot near here too last year. Probably more. Note that this is happening near the UC and not near Comiskey. There is very little real estate development value around the ballpark which suggests that there won't ever be a new Sox ballpark. The team is gone when the next ownership group decides the stadium is done. I appreciate your opinion and I know several people here think the new owner will move. However the next owner would be crazy to leave the third largest market and go to some small market. It wouldn't be wise to take a chance with his new fanbase that might not support the Sox for example like in Tampa Bay. All the new owner needs to do is build a consistent winning playoff team that is exciting to watch, along with eventually a brand new state of the art stadium and the fans will support the Sox with great attendance. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buehrle>Wood Posted August 5, 2023 Share Posted August 5, 2023 Lol the Sox would never leave chicago 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texsox Posted August 5, 2023 Share Posted August 5, 2023 That's what they said in Brooklyn. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buehrle>Wood Posted August 5, 2023 Share Posted August 5, 2023 1 minute ago, Texsox said: That's what they said in Brooklyn. Billion dollar TV deals didn't exist in the 50s so not sure about that comparison. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pcq Posted August 5, 2023 Share Posted August 5, 2023 2 minutes ago, Buehrle>Wood said: Billion dollar TV deals didn't exist in the 50s so not sure about that comparison. Leaving for LA same as Nashville. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
South Side Hit Men Posted August 5, 2023 Share Posted August 5, 2023 @Texsox has relocated, but that does not mean many MLB teams have in recent history. Bud Selig and owner co-conspirators destruction of the Montreal Expos plus shady Loria and Nationals creation is the lone franchise move over the past half century. There are many threats, primary to shake down corrupt politicians and gullible fans / voters. (I) Turn of 20th Century American League Relocation Milwaukee Brewers (1901) - Saint Louis Browns (1902-1953) Baltimore Orioles (1901-1902) - New York Yankees (1903-Current) (II) Relocation Era - Followed American Southern and Western Migration / Break up of Smaller Dual Team Cities NL Boston (1876-1952) - Milwaukee (1953-1965) - Atlanta (1966-Current) AL Saint Louis Browns (1902-1953) - Baltimore Orioles (1954-Current) AL Philadelphia Athletics (1901-1954) - Kansas City Athletics (1955-1967) - Oakland Athletics (1968-Current) NL New York Giants (1883-1957) - San Francisco Giants (1958-Current) NL Brooklyn Dodgers (1884-1957) - Los Angeles Dodgers (1958-Current) AL Washington Senators (1901-1960) - Minnesota Twins (1961-Current) AL Seattle Pilots (1969) - Milwaukee Brewers (1970-Current) AL Washington Senators (1961-1971) - Texas Rangers (1972-Current) (III) Modern Era NL Montreal Expos (1969-2004) - Washington Nationals (2005-Current) Baseball Contraction (I) National League 1899 Louisville Colonels (1882-1899) Baltimore Orioles (1882-1899) Cleveland Spiders (1887-1899) Washington Senators (1891-1899) (II) Federal League (1914-1915) Indianapolis Hoosiers (1914) - Newark Peppers (1915) Kansas City Packers (1914-1915) Chicago Whalers (1914-1915) Baltimore Terrapins (1914-1915) Saint Louis Terriers (1914-1915) Brooklyn Tip-Tops (1914-1915) Pittsburgh Rebels (1914-1915) Buffalo Blues (1914-1915) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texsox Posted August 6, 2023 Share Posted August 6, 2023 1 hour ago, pcq said: Leaving for LA same as Nashville. True. So is it the loyal fan base or national media attention they have in Chicago that will keep them here? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted August 6, 2023 Share Posted August 6, 2023 3 hours ago, The Kids Can Play said: I appreciate your opinion and I know several people here think the new owner will move. However the next owner would be crazy to leave the third largest market and go to some small market. It wouldn't be wise to take a chance with his new fanbase that might not support the Sox for example like in Tampa Bay. All the new owner needs to do is build a consistent winning playoff team that is exciting to watch, along with eventually a brand new state of the art stadium and the fans will support the Sox with great attendance. No owner would leave the 4 million population Seattle metro area for a tiny 1.5 million metro area like Oklahoma City. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pcq Posted August 6, 2023 Share Posted August 6, 2023 1 hour ago, Texsox said: True. So is it the loyal fan base or national media attention they have in Chicago that will keep them here? Major market potential given the right circumstances in the org. Not yet seen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
South Side Hit Men Posted August 6, 2023 Share Posted August 6, 2023 There are zero current domestic markets better than having the second team in Chicago. Oakland would be the best market available if they were open (the Giants will block any new team, they also blocked a viable A's stadium option). A few teams moving to Nashville would make sense, perhaps Charlotte or Montreal, and that's pretty much it. The Las Vegas market is weak, they will not draw in the same way their first team (Golden Knights) or NFL Raiders draw, their TV revenue will be very low, I still think there is a decent chance something in Oakland is worked out, and MLB uses the Nevada handout for an expansion team. What passed in the legislature last month (small Tropicana site) was a much smaller footprint than their original plan (Wild Wild West land with massive real estate development), though obviously that could also change over time. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texsox Posted August 6, 2023 Share Posted August 6, 2023 A new owner would look at what the current ownership was able to accomplish with their investment fielding a shitty fourth place team year after year and do the same. Sox fans are so easy to convince it will get better. It never does, but we'll argue forever it will. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kids Can Play Posted August 6, 2023 Share Posted August 6, 2023 12 hours ago, Balta1701 said: No owner would leave the 4 million population Seattle metro area for a tiny 1.5 million metro area like Oklahoma City. That is a good point. However because of my work, I know a few people in Seattle that were basketball fans and upset at the time. The fact of the matter is, the Supersonics attendance was one of the worst in the NBA at the time and although it was a shitty thing to do to the Seattle fans when the owner moved the team to Oklahoma City, might have backfired on him. The current Thunder team is near the bottom of attendance in the NBA. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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