Lip Man 1 Posted September 11, 2023 Share Posted September 11, 2023 Getz spoke with the media again Saturday before the game: https://soxmachine.com/2023/09/chris-getz-maintains-faith-in-pedro-grifol-but-open-to-white-sox-roster-changes/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted September 11, 2023 Share Posted September 11, 2023 2 hours ago, Lip Man 1 said: Getz spoke with the media again Saturday before the game: https://soxmachine.com/2023/09/chris-getz-maintains-faith-in-pedro-grifol-but-open-to-white-sox-roster-changes/ Good weekend to choose with all the focus on football...Sox/Detroit must have been the very last option for anyone paying any attention to the sports landscape. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
South Side Hit Men Posted September 15, 2023 Author Share Posted September 15, 2023 It's hard to imagine Getz adding to this list during his current contract (3, 4 or 5 years?). FIre Chris Getz. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted September 15, 2023 Share Posted September 15, 2023 (edited) https://sports.yahoo.com/hiring-chaim-bloom-signaled-a-change-in-the-boston-red-soxs-philosophy-firing-him-signals-the-lack-of-one-001854554.html Bloom built a Top 5 farm system in less than four full years but two last place and now another out of the playoffs doomed him. Similar payroll to the White Sox...just right above them at #12. Ofc Rays and O's #28/29 in spending. The Red Sox have the outline of a core forming in the big leagues, with international hit Masataka Yoshida and homegrown young players in first baseman Triston Casas, pitcher Brayan Bello, outfielder Jarren Duran and newly promoted center fielder Ceddanne Rafaela. Behind them, there are several exciting prospects within shouting distance of Boston, most notably shortstop Marcelo Mayer and surging outfielder Roman Anthony at Double-A. ..... To be sure, the next executive in Boston will have a lot to work with. The farm system is one of the top five in baseball, by FanGraphs’ estimation, and there’s plenty of offensive talent in the majors. But the defense is dreadful, and the pitching staff needs more robust patching than James Paxton, Corey Kluber and a wave of other early or late-career fliers can provide. That could be easily remedied, assuming said executive can get past the big Green Monster — no, not the wall, the payroll question. Edited September 15, 2023 by caulfield12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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fathom Posted September 16, 2023 Share Posted September 16, 2023 Pedro also said today they need to bring in high-leverage relievers 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Mighty Mite Posted September 16, 2023 Share Posted September 16, 2023 4 minutes ago, fathom said: Pedro also said today they need to bring in high-leverage relievers What a genius. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted September 16, 2023 Share Posted September 16, 2023 4 minutes ago, fathom said: Pedro also said today they need to bring in high-leverage relievers 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lip Man 1 Posted September 16, 2023 Share Posted September 16, 2023 2 minutes ago, Balta1701 said: True because the current bullpen is total garbage but relief pitchers should not be the top priority. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted September 16, 2023 Share Posted September 16, 2023 3 minutes ago, Lip Man 1 said: True because the current bullpen is total garbage but relief pitchers should not be the top priority. Exactly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
South Side Hit Men Posted September 16, 2023 Author Share Posted September 16, 2023 How it started "I got a plan, I got a very good plan." - Chris Getz 8/31/23 How it's going. 7-16 .304 - Pedro guaranteed another season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted September 17, 2023 Share Posted September 17, 2023 1. Still has no concept of getting on base more as a priority for the worst team at it. 2. Where does he plan to get these more athletic players before next year? They have a handful of trade resources but not a lot, they have some money to spent, but they are already talking about their bullpen needs when they have about 0.75 starting pitchers out of 6. Presumably this would involve trading all their tolerable prospects considering they’d need like 15 players. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pcq Posted September 17, 2023 Share Posted September 17, 2023 Sounds like a great focused can't miss plan. Baseball griot has spoken. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarava Posted September 17, 2023 Share Posted September 17, 2023 6 hours ago, Balta1701 said: 1. Still has no concept of getting on base more as a priority for the worst team at it. 2. Where does he plan to get these more athletic players before next year? They have a handful of trade resources but not a lot, they have some money to spent, but they are already talking about their bullpen needs when they have about 0.75 starting pitchers out of 6. Presumably this would involve trading all their tolerable prospects considering they’d need like 15 players. Obviously here's no way to fix this team for next year, regardless of the path. But yeah, they need to move away from the Hahn/KW model of building half the team from 1B/DH types. It seems obvious, but I think it's one positive thought process. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted September 17, 2023 Share Posted September 17, 2023 13 hours ago, Balta1701 said: 1. Still has no concept of getting on base more as a priority for the worst team at it. 2. Where does he plan to get these more athletic players before next year? They have a handful of trade resources but not a lot, they have some money to spent, but they are already talking about their bullpen needs when they have about 0.75 starting pitchers out of 6. Presumably this would involve trading all their tolerable prospects considering they’d need like 15 players. More speed & athleticism would be great, but plate discipline & power are far more glaring holes. And realistically, where is speed and athleticism an actual problem? Robert is an all-world athlete in CF. Moncada & Anderson are great athletes when healthy on the left-side of the infield. Colas is fairly athletic for a guy of his size. So basically that leaves LF and 2B where you have your highest paid player in franchise history (who doesn’t fit this new focus) and a kid who is one of our few major league ready young players. Honestly, they’re simply going to trade Eloy for a guy to replace Colas in RF and call it a day. Throw in a Perez trade and that’s your 2024 positional group. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted September 17, 2023 Share Posted September 17, 2023 10 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said: More speed & athleticism would be great, but plate discipline & power are far more glaring holes. And realistically, where is speed and athleticism an actual problem? Robert is an all-world athlete in CF. Moncada & Anderson are great athletes when healthy on the left-side of the infield. Colas is fairly athletic for a guy of his size. So basically that leaves LF and 2B where you have your highest paid player in franchise history (who doesn’t fit this new focus) and a kid who is one of our few major league ready young players. Honestly, they’re simply going to trade Eloy for a guy to replace Colas in RF and call it a day. Throw in a Perez trade and that’s your 2024 positional group. 🤮 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harold's Leg Lift Posted September 17, 2023 Share Posted September 17, 2023 They want speed and athletcism yet the previous dumbfucks drafted Jacob Gonzalez over Enrique Bradfield. Reinsdorf fucked up so bad not firing those idiots in May. 4 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted September 17, 2023 Share Posted September 17, 2023 1 hour ago, Chicago White Sox said: More speed & athleticism would be great, but plate discipline & power are far more glaring holes. And realistically, where is speed and athleticism an actual problem? Robert is an all-world athlete in CF. Moncada & Anderson are great athletes when healthy on the left-side of the infield. Colas is fairly athletic for a guy of his size. So basically that leaves LF and 2B where you have your highest paid player in franchise history (who doesn’t fit this new focus) and a kid who is one of our few major league ready young players. Honestly, they’re simply going to trade Eloy for a guy to replace Colas in RF and call it a day. Throw in a Perez trade and that’s your 2024 positional group. Salvador Perez just had a concussion or concussion-like symptoms as well. Wonderful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pcq Posted September 17, 2023 Share Posted September 17, 2023 Maybe some power hitters? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeC Posted September 17, 2023 Share Posted September 17, 2023 1 hour ago, pcq said: Maybe some power hitters? I’ll settle for “contact hitters,” “competent hitters,” or even “major league hitters.” 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted September 17, 2023 Share Posted September 17, 2023 3 hours ago, JoeC said: I’ll settle for “contact hitters,” “competent hitters,” or even “major league hitters.” They’re being very clear, these aren’t priorities, athleticism is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted September 17, 2023 Share Posted September 17, 2023 24 minutes ago, Balta1701 said: They’re being very clear, these aren’t priorities, athleticism is. Sounds like most of the 2000's and early 2010s when we kept drafting football players such as Courtney Hawkins and Keenyn Walker and trying to refine them into baseball players. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boopa1219 Posted September 18, 2023 Share Posted September 18, 2023 7 hours ago, caulfield12 said: Sounds like most of the 2000's and early 2010s when we kept drafting football players such as Courtney Hawkins and Keenyn Walker and trying to refine them into baseball players. I think if Courtney Hawkins was drafted by another team, he would’ve been a MLB player. They ruined his development by rushing him and they couldn’t develop an approach at the plate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
South Side Hit Men Posted September 18, 2023 Author Share Posted September 18, 2023 Pretty sure most White Sox fans could agree we could wait a few months for the right hire. Six of the other fourteen American League teams have a longer current streak than the White Sox. Seattle, Baltimore and Minnesota have a shot to break the streak this season. Longest number of years between American League Pennants (1901-2022): 49 Washington Senators II / Texas Rangers (1961-2009) 46 Seattle Mariners (1977-2022) Current 45 Chicago White Sox (1960-2004) 43 Milwaukee Brewers / Saint Louis Browns (1901-1943) 41 Los Angeles Angels (1961-2001) 40 Cleveland Guardians (1955-1994) 40 Philadelphia / Kansas City / Oakland Athletics (1932-1971) 39 Baltimore Orioles (1984-2022) Current 39 Chicago White Sox (1920-1958) 32 Oakland Athletics (1991-2022) Current 31 Minnesota Twins (1992-2022) Current 31 Washington Senators I / Minnesota Twins (1934-1964) 29 Kansas City Royals (1986-2014) 29 Toronto Blue Jays (1994-2022) Current 27 Boston Red Sox (1919-1945) 27 Cleveland Guardians (1921-1947) 24 Detroit Tigers (1910-1933) 23 Washington Senators I (1901-1923) 22 Detroit Tigers (1946-1967) 21 Detroit Tigers (1985-2005) 21 Minnesota Twins (1966-1986) 21 Saint Louis Browns / Baltimore Orioles (1945-1965) 20 Boston Red Sox (1947-1966) 20 Los Angeles Angels (2003-2022) Current 19 Cleveland Guardians (1901-1919) 18 Cleveland Guardians (1998-2015) 18 New York Yankees (1903-1920) 17 Boston Red Sox (1987-2003) 17 Chicago White Sox (2006-2022) Current Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FloydBannister1983 Posted September 18, 2023 Share Posted September 18, 2023 14 hours ago, Balta1701 said: They’re being very clear, these aren’t priorities, athleticism is. Isn’t this a rehash of KW 15 years ago? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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