Timmy U Posted July 10 Share Posted July 10 The Orioles just acquired another Comp A pick from the Rays at 37. Now they have the largest pool in the draft. Got to imagine they’re trying to push a Top 10 guy down. They generally prefer college hitters, but that’s not the strength of this draft. Hopefully they don’t have their eye on Jojo. Maybe they finally draft pitching? Could see them trying to get Arnold or Witherspoon down there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtySox Posted July 10 Share Posted July 10 12 minutes ago, Timmy U said: The Orioles just acquired another Comp A pick from the Rays at 37. Now they have the largest pool in the draft. Got to imagine they’re trying to push a Top 10 guy down. They generally prefer college hitters, but that’s not the strength of this draft. Hopefully they don’t have their eye on Jojo. Maybe they finally draft pitching? Could see them trying to get Arnold or Witherspoon down there. There's a new Doyle podcast out where he says teams are scared of the leverage the Orioles now have with the amount of picks and money they have available. Talks about potentially calling up Carlson or Parker telling them they will have more money waiting for them at 19 than in the top 10 if they can make it to that pick. Then caveats there really isn't historical precedence of floating players that far and for that much money. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtySox Posted July 10 Share Posted July 10 40 minutes ago, DirtySox said: There's a new Doyle podcast out where he says teams are scared of the leverage the Orioles now have with the amount of picks and money they have available. Talks about potentially calling up Carlson or Parker telling them they will have more money waiting for them at 19 than in the top 10 if they can make it to that pick. Then caveats there really isn't historical precedence of floating players that far and for that much money. Listening further, it sounds like it's gonna cause a lot of havoc or annoyance with the later first round prep types. The Orioles are gonna be calling up a bunch of those offering them more money with them, where in turn agents will be calling up the interested teams with higher picks telling them they have a higher offer and that they will need to match it or offer more for them to sign. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiliIrishHammock24 Posted July 10 Share Posted July 10 Why would people be disappointed with Jamie Arnold? He's been a pretty consistent top 10 name for a while now. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldsox Posted July 11 Share Posted July 11 19 hours ago, DirtySox said: Listening further, it sounds like it's gonna cause a lot of havoc or annoyance with the later first round prep types. The Orioles are gonna be calling up a bunch of those offering them more money with them, where in turn agents will be calling up the interested teams with higher picks telling them they have a higher offer and that they will need to match it or offer more for them to sign. Interesting strategy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptatc Posted July 11 Share Posted July 11 On 7/9/2025 at 2:45 PM, bmags said: Trading pitching for hitting just is not bringing the same value. Pitching prospects especially. It's just not going to move the needle. One of the mocks has them taking Kayson Cunningham for the underslot pick at 10. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
royoung Posted July 11 Share Posted July 11 Billy Carlson, SS, Corona HS (CA) Rank: 8 Carlson is in play to varying degrees at most picks starting around No. 5, with a floor around No. 12 and hot spots from 8 to 10, so this is right around what he should be expecting. The White Sox may be the highest on JoJo Parker and his brother Jacob, but I don't think they can get JoJo down to their pick. Steele Hall, Josh Hammond and Gavin Fien are also tied here in a very prep hitter-heavy mix, with prep LHP Kruz Schoolcraft a long shot/later overpay possibility. Keep an eye on Gavin Turley and Mason Ligenza at later picks. From Kiley's latest mock on ESPN this morning. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2Jimmy0 Posted July 11 Share Posted July 11 1 hour ago, royoung said: Billy Carlson, SS, Corona HS (CA) Rank: 8 Carlson is in play to varying degrees at most picks starting around No. 5, with a floor around No. 12 and hot spots from 8 to 10, so this is right around what he should be expecting. The White Sox may be the highest on JoJo Parker and his brother Jacob, but I don't think they can get JoJo down to their pick. Steele Hall, Josh Hammond and Gavin Fien are also tied here in a very prep hitter-heavy mix, with prep LHP Kruz Schoolcraft a long shot/later overpay possibility. Keep an eye on Gavin Turley and Mason Ligenza at later picks. From Kiley's latest mock on ESPN this morning. He also had them taking Wake Forest outfielder Ethan Conrad at 44. These would be favorable outcomes. I think Sean Gamble would be the pick if he’s on the board and he is in this scenario. Turley and Ligenza both have plus power, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtySox Posted July 11 Share Posted July 11 (edited) New Pipeline mock from Mayo has them taking JoJo. https://www.mlb.com/milb/news/mlb-pipeline-mock-draft-july-10-2025?t=mlb-draft-coverage Quote 10. White Sox: JoJo Parker, SS, Purvis (Miss.) HS (No. 9) We’ve had Parker in this spot so many times, I’m almost afraid not to put him here. In all seriousness, they do like the prep shortstop among a group of bats they seem to be considering. It’s mostly other high schoolers like Steele Hall, Gavin Fien and Kayson Cunningham, but there is some interest in college hitters like infielders Marek Houston and Wehiwa Aloy. Edited July 11 by DirtySox Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxBlanco Posted July 11 Share Posted July 11 2 hours ago, Y2Jimmy0 said: He also had them taking Wake Forest outfielder Ethan Conrad at 44. These would be favorable outcomes. I think Sean Gamble would be the pick if he’s on the board and he is in this scenario. Turley and Ligenza both have plus power, I don’t know much about Gamble at all, but I found it interesting he is labeled as a 2B. Seems rare for a high school infielder not to be labeled as a SS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptatc Posted July 11 Share Posted July 11 1 hour ago, DirtySox said: New Pipeline mock from Mayo has them taking JoJo. https://www.mlb.com/milb/news/mlb-pipeline-mock-draft-july-10-2025?t=mlb-draft-coverage I think that is the only mock that has Parker still available at 10. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2Jimmy0 Posted July 11 Share Posted July 11 48 minutes ago, SoxBlanco said: I don’t know much about Gamble at all, but I found it interesting he is labeled as a 2B. Seems rare for a high school infielder not to be labeled as a SS. I think Gamble might be able to play CF 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFutureIsNear Posted July 12 Share Posted July 12 Bring the Chicago kid home and draft Summerhill. His hit tool is very good and if he fills out and gets stronger he has 20/20 potential as an above CF. Wont be mad with 1 of the HS SS’s, but just feel like Summerhill’s profile screams good major leaguer 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted July 12 Share Posted July 12 8 minutes ago, TheFutureIsNear said: Bring the Chicago kid home and draft Summerhill. His hit tool is very good and if he fills out and gets stronger he has 20/20 potential as an above CF. Wont be mad with 1 of the HS SS’s, but just feel like Summerhill’s profile screams good major leaguer He’s supposedly not even going until 2nd round. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenSox Posted July 12 Share Posted July 12 On 7/10/2025 at 1:40 PM, ChiliIrishHammock24 said: Why would people be disappointed with Jamie Arnold? He's been a pretty consistent top 10 name for a while now. I would be disappointed because this would make the 3rd lefty pitcher in our last 4 #1 picks. And he's a low-slot guy - too much comfort zone: Sox need broader diversification. And the Sox need hitters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PolishPrince34 Posted July 12 Share Posted July 12 Keith Law’s last mock. Jamie Arnold Player Profile School: Florida State, Bats: L, Throws: L I’ve heard the White Sox on Arnold, Liam Doyle, Steele Hall, Kruz Schoolcraft and JoJo Parker. I worry that the Arnold/Doyle rumors are just because everyone assumes the White Sox will take any good lefty with a funky delivery 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaleAleSox Posted July 12 Share Posted July 12 1 hour ago, PolishPrince34 said: Keith Law’s last mock. Jamie Arnold Player Profile School: Florida State, Bats: L, Throws: L I’ve heard the White Sox on Arnold, Liam Doyle, Steele Hall, Kruz Schoolcraft and JoJo Parker. I worry that the Arnold/Doyle rumors are just because everyone assumes the White Sox will take any good lefty with a funky delivery Please do not draft another pitcher. Their first two picks should be bats. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenSox Posted July 12 Share Posted July 12 1 hour ago, PolishPrince34 said: Keith Law’s last mock. Jamie Arnold Player Profile School: Florida State, Bats: L, Throws: L I’ve heard the White Sox on Arnold, Liam Doyle, Steele Hall, Kruz Schoolcraft and JoJo Parker. I worry that the Arnold/Doyle rumors are just because everyone assumes the White Sox will take any good lefty with a funky delivery For me, it's a hope, not a worry, that the rumors are because of assumptions, not real information. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtySox Posted July 12 Share Posted July 12 On 7/10/2025 at 2:40 PM, ChiliIrishHammock24 said: Why would people be disappointed with Jamie Arnold? He's been a pretty consistent top 10 name for a while now. I'm fine with Arnold. It's just that I have no idea where the impact bats/hitters come from if you keep drafting pitching with first round picks. I don't think I dislike any of the rumored targets except Jace. His profile is just terrifying historically. From a pure entertainment value selection, I'd love to see what the Sox do with significant under-slot savings on a Kayson Cunningham pick. Perhaps Steele Hall as well, but I think the savings would be less with him. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtySox Posted July 12 Share Posted July 12 On 7/11/2025 at 8:53 AM, royoung said: Billy Carlson, SS, Corona HS (CA) Rank: 8 Carlson is in play to varying degrees at most picks starting around No. 5, with a floor around No. 12 and hot spots from 8 to 10, so this is right around what he should be expecting. The White Sox may be the highest on JoJo Parker and his brother Jacob, but I don't think they can get JoJo down to their pick. Steele Hall, Josh Hammond and Gavin Fien are also tied here in a very prep hitter-heavy mix, with prep LHP Kruz Schoolcraft a long shot/later overpay possibility. Keep an eye on Gavin Turley and Mason Ligenza at later picks. From Kiley's latest mock on ESPN this morning. Just catching up on this since I've been out of town getting stabbed. Found it interesting that Kiley has Fauske going 14th to the Rays. He's mentioned with plenty of others teams too. Orioles, Brewers, Tigers, and Twins. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted July 12 Share Posted July 12 I’m fine with Arnold also, but would he be overslot? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peanut33tillman Posted July 12 Share Posted July 12 What do we think the odds are that one or Parker or Carlson gets to 10? 35-40% or so? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtySox Posted July 12 Share Posted July 12 (edited) Also here's the BA scouting reports on the 3 dudes that Kiley mentioned with the Sox outside of Carlson. Quote 66. Gavin Turley OF School: Oregon State Drafted/Committed: D-backs ’22 (19) Turley is a 6-foot-1, 195-pound tool shed who has flashed big-time upside dating back to his prep days, when he ranked as a top 100 player in the 2022 class. Turley received draft interest in the first two rounds but honored his commitment to Oregon State. In three years with the Beavers, Turley has been a consistent source of power, with at least 14 home runs and a 1.000 OPS in each season, though that power has come with swing-and-miss tendencies. Turley has an explosive operation in the box with great bat speed, while his leveraged, uphill bat path leads to monstrous home runs to his pull side. While Turley has managed to cut his strikeout rate each year, he still strikes out at a 26.6% clip and swings and misses far too frequently against secondaries. There’s a real split in Turley’s production versus fastballs compared to breaking and offspeed pitches, and he’ll need to improve his approach to continue tapping into his power with a wood bat in pro ball. While Turley comes with pure hit questions, he has always shown solid on-base skills and owns a career 17.4% walk rate. Turley is an above-average runner with a plus throwing arm who is athletic enough to handle all three outfield positions, but he fits best in either right or left field. Scouting Grades: Hit: 40 | Power: 55 | Run:55 | Field: 50 | Arm: 60. Quote 378. Mason Ligenza OF Ht: 6'6" | Wt: 210 | B-T: L-L School: Tamaqua (Pa.) HS Drafted/Committed: Pittsburgh Ligenza is a 6-foot-6, 210-pound outfielder with exciting power and speed tools to dream on. He has above-average raw power now and has the physical projection to suggest more is coming in the future as he adds strength and mass. Ligenza does a nice job getting the ball in the air to his pull side, though his swing can become a bit grooved and rigid at times, which leads to swing-and-miss. He’s more power-over-hit now, but has enough juice for that to be an appealing package even without a standout hit tool. Ligenza takes a few steps to get going, but he will turn in plus run times and cover a lot of ground with long loping strides. He looks like a prototypical power-oriented right field profile. Ligenza is committed to Pittsburgh and could be a tough sign. Quote 23. Ethan Conrad OF Ht: 6'4" | Wt: 215 | B-T: L-L School: Wake Forest Drafted/Committed: Never Drafted BA Grade: 50/High Wake Forest has become a destination for many of the top transfers in college baseball. Conrad is the latest example after standout transfer duo Chase Burns and Seaver King from the 2024 team. Conrad has a case to go inside the top 10 on talent alone, as Burns and King did last year, though shoulder surgery that cut his 2025 season short after just 21 games could prevent that from happening. Conrad has a big league frame at 6-foot-3, 220 pounds and has done nothing but hit and hit for power in his college career, first at Marist and then in the 2024 Cape Cod League and finally in a brief stint with Wake Forest. He has a quiet setup in the box with few moving parts and fires a short and direct lefthanded swing that leads to plenty of contact and power. Conrad’s one big offensive question might be an overly aggressive approach, though he was well on his way to improving that reputation before he was sidelined with injury. He has a chance for an above-average hit tool with above-average power. Conrad is an above-average runner who could stick in center field in pro ball. He has experience at all three outfield positions as well as first base, but he was Wake’s everyday center fielder and looked solid there in 2025, with an average arm. There are shades of 2022 first-rounder Chase DeLauter with Conrad, as a big-bodied lefthanded-hitting college bat with contact, power and injury questions. He could be drafted in the middle or back of the first round. Scouting Grades: Hit: 50 | Power: 55 | Run:55 | Field: 50 | Arm: 50. Edited July 12 by DirtySox 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peanut33tillman Posted July 12 Share Posted July 12 13 minutes ago, DirtySox said: Also here's the BA scouting reports on the 3 dudes that Kiley mentioned with the Sox outside of Carlson. Conrad would get an awesome get at 44. I don’t think he gets there though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestEddy Posted July 12 Share Posted July 12 58 minutes ago, DirtySox said: Just catching up on this since I've been out of town getting stabbed. If this isn't a joke, I certainly hope you're healing well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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