hogan873 Posted June 27 Share Posted June 27 The list of high draft picks that turn out to be great at the MLB level is shorter than the list of those who don't even make it to the MLB level. While about 70% of first round picks eventually make it it the bigs, how many turn out to be stars? Colson is more likely a case of not being as good as the Sox thought he was when drafted vs. him being ruined by the Sox. Plus, his back issues didn't help. The Sox don't have a great track record of first round picks, especially for position players. Colson is probably just a bust. I could, however, see him up with the Sox after the trade deadline to "see what he's got." 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted June 27 Share Posted June 27 (edited) 34 minutes ago, hogan873 said: The list of high draft picks that turn out to be great at the MLB level is shorter than the list of those who don't even make it to the MLB level. While about 70% of first round picks eventually make it it the bigs, how many turn out to be stars? Colson is more likely a case of not being as good as the Sox thought he was when drafted vs. him being ruined by the Sox. Plus, his back issues didn't help. The Sox don't have a great track record of first round picks, especially for position players. Colson is probably just a bust. I could, however, see him up with the Sox after the trade deadline to "see what he's got." I think it has to do with the back personally. Most of the scouts loved him until he started having issues, and it seems to have really curtailed his performance. When his back was acting up this spring, the Sox gave the "its no big deal" response. I'm sorry, 22 or 23 years old with recurring back problems is a huge issue. Edited June 27 by Dick Allen 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falstaff Posted June 27 Share Posted June 27 Montgomery is a lock to make the Sox. (Braden) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
almagest Posted June 27 Share Posted June 27 2 hours ago, Dick Allen said: I think it has to do with the back personally. Most of the scouts loved him until he started having issues, and it seems to have really curtailed his performance. When his back was acting up this spring, the Sox gave the "its no big deal" response. I'm sorry, 22 or 23 years old with recurring back problems is a huge issue. Yup. I wonder if some of the swing changes they made with him were to reduce the stress on his back, too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted June 27 Share Posted June 27 10 minutes ago, almagest said: Yup. I wonder if some of the swing changes they made with him were to reduce the stress on his back, too. Or the back injury caused him to make swing changes to reduce pain. Or if his back is bugging him again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
almagest Posted June 27 Share Posted June 27 9 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said: Or the back injury caused him to make swing changes to reduce pain. Or if his back is bugging him again. He has been getting a number of days off recently, even beyond the HBP injury. Yeah, I'm not counting on this guy at all, but I'll root like hell for him. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WBWSF Posted June 28 Share Posted June 28 Wouldn't it be something if they brought up Colson Montgomery (who hasn't hit) to the majors and kept Baldwin and Elko in the minors. (Both have hit in the minors) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Mighty Mite Posted June 28 Share Posted June 28 (edited) 19 minutes ago, WBWSF said: Wouldn't it be something if they brought up Colson Montgomery (who hasn't hit) to the majors and kept Baldwin and Elko in the minors. (Both have hit in the minors) Colson and Elko had good games last night, Baldwin was 1-4 with 2 RBI as Charlotte won. Edited June 28 by The Mighty Mite Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2Deep Posted June 28 Share Posted June 28 On 6/25/2025 at 11:10 AM, 2Deep said: Last 7 games for Montgomery.... 27 AB's 3 Hits 0 HR 2 RBI 12 K's 2 BB Maybe I spoke too soon 5 for 9 in last 2 games with 2 home runs He needs to start consistently hitting Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaleAleSox Posted June 28 Share Posted June 28 21 minutes ago, 2Deep said: Maybe I spoke too soon 5 for 9 in last 2 games with 2 home runs He needs to start consistently hitting I'm hoping that bad stretch is because he had to keep starting and stopping after getting hit twice, and now he is finding a groove again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kitekrazy Posted June 28 Share Posted June 28 On 6/27/2025 at 9:16 AM, Dick Allen said: I think it has to do with the back personally. Most of the scouts loved him until he started having issues, and it seems to have really curtailed his performance. When his back was acting up this spring, the Sox gave the "its no big deal" response. I'm sorry, 22 or 23 years old with recurring back problems is a huge issue. Make me think of Joe Crede. back issues often end a career in any sport Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoUEvenShift Posted June 29 Share Posted June 29 Colson with another 3 hits tonight including a double and triple. That's 8 hits in the last 3 games including 2 HR's 2 doubles and a triple. Thank you to the posters for declaring him a bust/cooked, the anti-jinx was just what the doctor ordered! 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteSox2023 Posted June 29 Share Posted June 29 (edited) 55 minutes ago, DoUEvenShift said: Colson with another 3 hits tonight including a double and triple. That's 8 hits in the last 3 games including 2 HR's 2 doubles and a triple. Thank you to the posters for declaring him a bust/cooked, the anti-jinx was just what the doctor ordered! Sample sizes still matter. He is still OPS’ing under .700. Same goes for dick-riding guys like Vargas, Slater, and Tauchman. Those numbers are dropping fast. And Colson isn’t even doing it in the majors. Edited June 29 by WhiteSox2023 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chitownsportsfan Posted June 29 Share Posted June 29 17 minutes ago, WhiteSox2023 said: Sample sizes still matter. He is still OPS’ing under .700. Same goes for dick-riding guys like Vargas, Slater, and Tauchman. Those numbers are dropping fast. And Colson isn’t even doing it in the majors. both are true in this case. good news bad news sorta thing. but we'll take it even if he's rob deere at like 210/270/430 that's a 3 WAR player assuming he can play an average or so SS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxBlanco Posted June 29 Share Posted June 29 23 minutes ago, WhiteSox2023 said: Sample sizes still matter. He is still OPS’ing under .700. Same goes for dick-riding guys like Vargas, Slater, and Tauchman. Those numbers are dropping fast. And Colson isn’t even doing it in the majors. His OPS is up to .708. I’m not saying that as a counter to the overall point you are making, but he’s not under .700 as of now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Mighty Mite Posted June 29 Share Posted June 29 (edited) 16 hours ago, WhiteSox2023 said: Sample sizes still matter. He is still OPS’ing under .700. Same goes for dick-riding guys like Vargas, Slater, and Tauchman. Those numbers are dropping fast. And Colson isn’t even doing it in the majors. He’s at .708 after last nights game. Edited June 29 by The Mighty Mite Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleepy Harold Posted June 29 Share Posted June 29 Pre AZ work (AAA statline): 23 G, .149/.223/.255, .479 OPS, 6.8 BB%, 41.7 K%, .106 ISO, .229 BABIP, .225 wOBA, 20 wRC+ Post AZ work (AAA): 29 G, .270/.349/.550, .899 OPS, 8.7 BB%, 28.6 K%, .279 ISO, .343 BABIP, .390 wOBA, 125 wRC+ The ACL tune-up games are omitted bc who cares about those, but it's a significant improvement over the absolute train wreck he was in the early going. Hopefully he can sustain the success without HBPs getting in the way. 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoUEvenShift Posted June 29 Share Posted June 29 Annnnnnnnd 2 more homers today. He is on an absolute tear 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baron Posted June 29 Share Posted June 29 Probably time to come up soon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxBlanco Posted June 29 Share Posted June 29 44 minutes ago, DoUEvenShift said: Annnnnnnnd 2 more homers today. He is on an absolute tear In only four games, he raised his OPS from .622 to .741. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Look at Ray Ray Run Posted June 29 Share Posted June 29 You're welcome all. I did my best to reverse mush this and it's been beautiful! 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestEddy Posted June 29 Share Posted June 29 1 hour ago, DoUEvenShift said: Annnnnnnnd 2 more homers today. He is on an absolute tear On the road, too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted June 29 Share Posted June 29 f*** it, call him up. He’s hot and gives him a chance to reset his stats. Worst case scenario is you option him again. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteSox2023 Posted June 29 Share Posted June 29 (edited) 24 minutes ago, Bob Sacamano said: f*** it, call him up. He’s hot and gives him a chance to reset his stats. Worst case scenario is you option him again. Agreed. May as well challenge him. They should also call up Baldwin as well. Noda, Capra, Rojas — take your pick of which two scrubs to cut loose. Edited June 29 by WhiteSox2023 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baron Posted June 29 Share Posted June 29 I'd cut Rojas lose and bring him up for LA. We could use that power in the lineup right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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