Milkman delivers Posted September 16 Share Posted September 16 20 hours ago, Tony said: Somehow, someway...they may find a way to be worse than last year. They won 5 last year. Looking at their schedule, 5 wins is probably the best they’re looking at this season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Posted September 16 Share Posted September 16 9 minutes ago, Milkman delivers said: They won 5 last year. Looking at their schedule, 5 wins is probably the best they’re looking at this season. Correct. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Chappas Posted September 16 Share Posted September 16 3 hours ago, Tony said: Maybe.....it's not the coaches. They just extended one of if not the worst GMs in football for 5 years The new narrative will be that he drafted guys Johnson wanted. His history of drafting is an absolute joke. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Posted September 16 Share Posted September 16 23 minutes ago, Harry Chappas said: They just extended one of if not the worst GMs in football for 5 years The new narrative will be that he drafted guys Johnson wanted. His history of drafting is an absolute joke. I hate that we are even talking about this, and I'm not going to give the Bears any credit or belief they will do the right thing...with that said, even with the extension, I can't imagine Poles is making more than 2-3 million dollars a year. Say this year is a disaster, they bring him back next season and it's more of the same. At that point, he'll be like 25-58 as a GM or something silly, I don't see how it's possible to even bring him back by any metric. My point is, even though the extension was insanely stupid, given what they are paying Ben Johnson, not to mention player salaries, paying a GM is nothing in the grand scheme. I don't think the extension will stand in the way of them HAVING to make a move. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Chappas Posted September 16 Share Posted September 16 1 hour ago, Tony said: I hate that we are even talking about this, and I'm not going to give the Bears any credit or belief they will do the right thing...with that said, even with the extension, I can't imagine Poles is making more than 2-3 million dollars a year. Say this year is a disaster, they bring him back next season and it's more of the same. At that point, he'll be like 25-58 as a GM or something silly, I don't see how it's possible to even bring him back by any metric. My point is, even though the extension was insanely stupid, given what they are paying Ben Johnson, not to mention player salaries, paying a GM is nothing in the grand scheme. I don't think the extension will stand in the way of them HAVING to make a move. 100% reasonable thought process but this is the Bears. He is epically bad at his job and was given an extension two months ago. He is here through at least the 2027 season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteSox2023 Posted September 16 Share Posted September 16 (edited) 25 minutes ago, Harry Chappas said: 100% reasonable thought process but this is the Bears. He is epically bad at his job and was given an extension two months ago. He is here through at least the 2027 season. This. Similar to the Sox, nothing changes until the morons in charge are gone… which isn’t happening anytime soon with the Bears. Remember when they didn’t want to consider Harbaugh because they didn’t want to cede so much control of the team to him? Yeah, that would have been such a bad idea. 🤣 Edited September 16 by WhiteSox2023 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted September 16 Share Posted September 16 2 hours ago, Harry Chappas said: They just extended one of if not the worst GMs in football for 5 years The new narrative will be that he drafted guys Johnson wanted. His history of drafting is an absolute joke. FWIW, I did feel like the Loveland pick had a lot of Ben Johnson influence at the time. But even if that wasn't a Poles pick, it's not like his draft history prior to that is any good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snopek Posted September 16 Share Posted September 16 5 hours ago, Milkman delivers said: They won 5 last year. Looking at their schedule, 5 wins is probably the best they’re looking at this season. vs Cowboys @ Raiders vs Saints @ Bengals vs Giants vs Browns These are the games I'd say aren't automatic losses. Realistically, I think they win 4 of the above. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lip Man 1 Posted September 16 Share Posted September 16 In his four seasons, Poles has drafted 14 players in the first three rounds, where teams expect to land starters. None have made the Pro Bowl. Two — receiver Velus Jones and defensive tackle Zacch Pickens — have already been cut. https://chicago.suntimes.com/bears/2025/09/16/bears-gm-ryan-poles-roster-cant-compare-to-nfc-north-foes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted September 17 Share Posted September 17 8 hours ago, Tony said: I hate that we are even talking about this, and I'm not going to give the Bears any credit or belief they will do the right thing...with that said, even with the extension, I can't imagine Poles is making more than 2-3 million dollars a year. Say this year is a disaster, they bring him back next season and it's more of the same. At that point, he'll be like 25-58 as a GM or something silly, I don't see how it's possible to even bring him back by any metric. My point is, even though the extension was insanely stupid, given what they are paying Ben Johnson, not to mention player salaries, paying a GM is nothing in the grand scheme. I don't think the extension will stand in the way of them HAVING to make a move. Agree completely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Chappas Posted September 17 Share Posted September 17 On the radio this morning there was talk that he makes $2M a year and will easily be fired at any time. In theory this is true but this is not how the Bears operate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted September 17 Share Posted September 17 Lmao Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxAce Posted September 17 Share Posted September 17 Chicago 30th. Makes perfect sense. A QB can literally take a s%*#, wash his hands and still have time to throw the ball. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Posted September 17 Share Posted September 17 2 hours ago, Harry Chappas said: On the radio this morning there was talk that he makes $2M a year and will easily be fired at any time. In theory this is true but this is not how the Bears operate. Again, generally agree that this is not how the Bears operate, but we did see a change in both them firing Eberflus middle of the season, and paying a coach top dollar while also still paying the contract of Eberflus. We'll see, but as I said earlier, if they win 5 games this year and 5 games next year, I just don't see a world where they keep him after the 2026 season with something like a 25-60 record. I think the heat will be too hot around the team for them to bring him back for another season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted September 17 Share Posted September 17 1 hour ago, Tony said: Again, generally agree that this is not how the Bears operate, but we did see a change in both them firing Eberflus middle of the season, and paying a coach top dollar while also still paying the contract of Eberflus. We'll see, but as I said earlier, if they win 5 games this year and 5 games next year, I just don't see a world where they keep him after the 2026 season with something like a 25-60 record. I think the heat will be too hot around the team for them to bring him back for another season. Honestly if they win 5 games this season and look as bad as they did against the Lions all season, I think he might lose his job after the season. You can’t keep telling everyone things are moving forward and winning 5 games a season. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted September 17 Share Posted September 17 19 minutes ago, Kyyle23 said: Honestly if they win 5 games this season and look as bad as they did against the Lions all season, I think he might lose his job after the season. You can’t keep telling everyone things are moving forward and winning 5 games a season. I was gonna say something similar. This isn’t a Sox situation where the fan base just doesn’t care and a rebuild is expected. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted September 17 Share Posted September 17 11 minutes ago, fathom said: I was gonna say something similar. This isn’t a Sox situation where the fan base just doesn’t care and a rebuild is expected. But at the same time 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Posted September 17 Share Posted September 17 42 minutes ago, Kyyle23 said: Honestly if they win 5 games this season and look as bad as they did against the Lions all season, I think he might lose his job after the season. You can’t keep telling everyone things are moving forward and winning 5 games a season. Don't disagree at all, and a lot of the narratives can change quickly if this continues, but while it shouldn't be that costly to get out of the Poles deal, after giving him an extension this last offseason, I'd be mildly surprised to see a movie by the end of this season. But time will tell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted September 17 Share Posted September 17 33 minutes ago, Tony said: Don't disagree at all, and a lot of the narratives can change quickly if this continues, but while it shouldn't be that costly to get out of the Poles deal, after giving him an extension this last offseason, I'd be mildly surprised to see a movie by the end of this season. But time will tell. I genuinely hope we don’t end up there, having to fire a guy and doing the GM dance again. But the evidence mounting against him is building Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chitownsportsfan Posted September 17 Share Posted September 17 1 hour ago, Kyyle23 said: I genuinely hope we don’t end up there, having to fire a guy and doing the GM dance again. But the evidence mounting against him is building You've got that empty suit Kevin Warren around to screw things up as well. Why the hell the Bears figured some TV exec gladhander type (fine as a conference president) would be a useful FO addition is anybody's guess. Dude doesn't have a clue about building an org. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted September 18 Share Posted September 18 "In truth, his game was the kind of rebound performance Williams needed after playing a season opener littered with inaccuracies against the Minnesota Vikings. Williams did a much better job of hitting his throws and ran the offense with more precision in this game. In the first half, before the Lions’ offense decided to turn the difficulty down to rookie, the Bears averaged 0.28 expected points per dropback and 6.3 yards per play according to TruMedia. Both of those marks are excellent, and Chicago moved the ball without consistent help from its rushing attack. Being a skeptic of Williams is fine, but using this specific performance to reinforce extreme doubt in his future doesn’t make much sense. The interception he threw has been plastered all over social media, but it was his only turnover of the game and it happened on second-and-32 (basically a punt)." yahoo sports Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lip Man 1 Posted September 18 Share Posted September 18 1 hour ago, chitownsportsfan said: You've got that empty suit Kevin Warren around to screw things up as well. Why the hell the Bears figured some TV exec gladhander type (fine as a conference president) would be a useful FO addition is anybody's guess. Dude doesn't have a clue about building an org. Warren was hired for one reason only, to get them a new stadium. And that's not going very well is it? 😆I don't know how much he is involved in the team itself per se. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Posted September 18 Share Posted September 18 11 hours ago, Lip Man 1 said: Warren was hired for one reason only, to get them a new stadium. And that's not going very well is it? 😆I don't know how much he is involved in the team itself per se. While I don't think he is identifying players to go after, I think he's absolutely involved in the approval process of players/trades, etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Chappas Posted September 18 Share Posted September 18 13 hours ago, Lip Man 1 said: Warren was hired for one reason only, to get them a new stadium. And that's not going very well is it? 😆I don't know how much he is involved in the team itself per se. He should be the decision maker on Poles. Warren is about as useless as Ted Phillips. In actuality due to his time in the Big 10 he most likely cost the Bears Harbaugh which makes him worse than Phillips. My take on the stadium is that the Bears are slow playing it to pay as little on any early buyout on Soldier Field as possible but maybe that is not the case and Warren is just a tad inept. It's the Bears, they will fire Poles and promote Ian Cunningham. Firing Poles after 2027 wastes all of Williams rookie deal and then the Bears are screwed as Williams will make them pay and pay dearly for the miserable situation they have put him in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Posted September 21 Share Posted September 21 So this has been a fun start… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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