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14 minutes ago, WBWSF said:

I just wonder if Getz has actually tried to sign some decent free agent and  those free agents have declined to come here simply because they don't want to be  playing for the White Sox.

I just wonder if maybe the dope has learned his lesson from jumping out in front to sign Austin Slater before anyone else could get him... only to realize the rest of the market has made veterans who don't warrant big guarantees wait until later in the off-season to even be considered.

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35 minutes ago, WestEddy said:

Maybe. And maybe the tier that Getz is targeting is waiting for more valuable players to be taken off the board first, or for the teams closer to competing to decline them. 

Or maybe Getzy is planning to use that big new Japanese scout to pursue some big Japanese free agents…

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2 minutes ago, WhiteSox2023 said:

I think once the Ishbia era begins, we can all get excited for the offseason.  Until then, it’s just going to be frugal signings.

Honestly, the Sox aren't spending any real amount until both the team is a lot better and the 2027 labor problems are settled and behind us.  I am not sure why people are getting their hopes up for no good reason, but knowing Jerry's 45 year history and the current state of this franchise, it doesn't even make sense.

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26 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said:

Honestly, the Sox aren't spending any real amount until both the team is a lot better and the 2027 labor problems are settled and behind us.  I am not sure why people are getting their hopes up for no good reason, but knowing Jerry's 45 year history and the current state of this franchise, it doesn't even make sense.

If this is based on the eventual new owner being announced this year, the option to sell to Ishbia doesn't even begin until 2029 and might not even happen until a few years after that.  I see no reason for the future owner to want to spend money now on free agents who either won't be here or will be past their prime by the time he takes over.   The money he's spending on the team over the next couple of years are for long-term fixes such as scouting, player development and a new stadium, not to land FAs in the short-term.

 

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The Ishbia’s are the majority owners of the White Sox right now.  They may not have a controlling interest, but they have gained significant influence with their recent buy-outs and the future deal that’s in place to take over the franchise.  While I certainly don’t think any major moves happen this offseason (think A tier free agents), I don’t think anyone can say with a level of certainty that we won’t see any operating changes until 2029.  I believe we start seeing the Ishbia impact, even if moderate, as soon as this offseason.

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13 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said:

The Ishbia’s are the majority owners of the White Sox right now.  They may not have a controlling interest, but they have gained significant influence with their recent buy-outs and the future that’s in place to take over the franchise.  While I certainly don’t think any major moves happen this offseason (think A tier free agents), I don’t think anyone can say with a level of certainty that we won’t see any operating changes until 2029.  I believe we start seeing the Ishbia impact, even if moderate, as soon as this offseason.

Do we even know this for sure?

That week when minority shareholders were offered the opportunity to sell at a $1.8 billion valuation...a surprising number of those share sales went to the Reinsdorf kids and not Ishbia.

JR was already around 25% personally.

His kids maybe at 5-10%?

Ishbia MIGHT be at 45-50% now, Reinsdorf family at roughly 35-40% and also a number of the minority shareholders decided to hold out.  At least 10-15% remaining.

But there hasn't been any public reporting that the Ishbias are over 50%...and control person title/shares is all that really matters at this point.

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Most Sox fans don't believe all that much in Pereira...but 100% would rather watch him than Tauchman Bell Arraez Ozuna Kepler Conforto etc.

Would anyone get excited about Rhys Hoskins, for example?  No, not really.

The real problem is they always want to cobble together 3-5 veteran "name" players years past their sell by dates instead of investing $125-175 million into a really really good hitter...we also know quite well the Sox (at least until Isbia) would never even dream on $200+ million, let alone getting that first $100 million guy.

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"The Braves are bringing back Ha-Seong Kim on a $20MM contract, reports Jon Heyman of The New York Post. It’s a one-year deal, according to Ken Rosenthal of The Athletic. Kim had declined a $16MM player option and earns a $4MM raise to return as Atlanta’s starting shortstop.

Kim spent the final month of the 2025 season with the Braves. They claimed him off waivers from the Rays, who were happy to get out from under the $16MM player option."

 

Noticing a trend with the Rays?

 

https://www.fangraphs.com/players/ha-seong-kim/27506/stats/batting

Gambling that he can get back to that 3.2-3.5 fWAR version he maintained for three seasons before the shoulder injury sliding into a base.

30 years old.  Very durable/consistent player until that injury. 

Quiet leader/glue guy.

Offense has always been the concern...but he has surprising pop when healthy.  Strikes out a lot for what should be a high contact position.

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2 minutes ago, chitownsportsfan said:

Good question. I'd think if the Sox paid some freight they could get a back end top 100 guy and a C+ and a lotto ticket. Of course will JR throw in 8 million or whatever? Prolly not. 

You have to be realistic, Robert isn't bringing back a top 100 guy.

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