11 minutes ago, T R U said:

Either Getz continues to be terrible at making trades or Jacob Gonzalez was nowhere near as valuable as some people thought.

They 100% sold high.

6 minutes ago, fathom said:

So why do some feels this guarantees Roch?

I guess they are assuming Roch needs more money (I personally doubt it) and this frees it up without compromising the team's ability to grab overslot guys later. Either that or there's some assumption that the Sox want to counterbalance a college 1.1 with young talent later. I personally don't think this has much of any bearing on the #1 pick.

2 minutes ago, Capn12 said:

How quickly people forget this guy...

If I was more tech savvy, I’d post Peters minor league stats :)

9 minutes ago, chitownsportsfan said:

I don't get this one. Rather stack depth, seems a panicky "oh 40 man crunch" move.

This freed up one slot, no?

26 minutes ago, BigHurt3515 said:

I need a draft expert to give us some info on why we did this

Getz clearly dislikes Mexicans to trade Gonzalez tonight ! JK !

Hate to see him go.

So Cholowsky and who at 34 ?

I have no pronouncements to make until I see how the pick and Gonzalez develope. I really liked Gonzo though.

Pirates fans should be excited though that KLaw thinks they just got a future All Star for a comp pick

4 minutes ago, bmags said:

Yeah I don’t get that at all. I don’t know it’s a signal of anything except they like this draft.

Going high on a couple HS guys would be my guess

3 minutes ago, fathom said:

If I was more tech savvy, I’d post Peters minor league stats :)

I get it, he finally does something of use and gets traded, but dude looked absolutely overmatched in PH opportunities, and there really isn't anywhere for him to play otherwise.

I just think its an 'eh whatever' move.

15 minutes ago, chw42 said:

Gonzalez had no future on this team, so I'm not against trading him. But I thought it would be to help the team compete this year.

Agreed

13 minutes ago, T R U said:

No one should be worried, he hasn’t proved he can hit for any power outside of Charlotte.

Doesn't mean he won't. I mean whats it been a whole month ? He did show a knack for getting hits the other way when there were runs to be driven in.

6 minutes ago, fathom said:

If I was more tech savvy, I’d post Peters minor league stats :)

Also, just for you

He was actually pretty good in the minors, better than JGon

4 minutes ago, Jake said:

This seems about normal value for a comp pick. There's always some risk when you trade a pre-arb guy. I don't think the league is all that high on Jacob, though. This may very well be a nice sell-high move. Like a lot of things, this stuff always works out if you're able to call your shots. I think Jacob looked a lot like a major leaguer but the ceiling is not super high and we all know his track record up to this season was absolutely horrible, he wasn't even viewed as a starting caliber infielder on Charlotte's squad to start the year.

I just don’t agree with this take. You think market value of a comp pick is a major league ready LH hitting infielder with plus plate discipline & power who brings a solid glove at multiple spots and comes with 6+ years of control.

The average career WAR for a comp A pick is ~4 I believe. Jacob is on pace for ~1.5 wins as a 1B and his bat is much better than his current season-to-date results. I think as a 2B his floor is a 2 win player and ceiling is much higher than that. Just playing the odds, he will be more valuable than the comp A pick.

Jacob’s history isn’t all that relevant. He reinvented his swing this offseason and was finally able to tap into his natural raw power. He came up to the majors and quickly demonstrated he wasn’t just a product of Truist Field. And he isn’t a guy strictly relying on his new found power…he was always a very disciplined hitter. He doesn’t have to hit 30 HRs to be a very valuable player.

6 minutes ago, CaliSoxFanViaSWside said:

Getz clearly dislikes Mexicans to trade Gonzalez tonight ! JK !

Hate to see him go.

So Cholowsky and who at 34 ?

I have no pronouncements to make until I see how the pick and Gonzalez develope. I really liked Gonzo though.

Why are you convinced they are taking Roch?

24 minutes ago, fathom said:

I would be shocked if league isn’t high on him based on the reports from Law and others

He’s out number two prospect per Kiley and Law called him a potential star.

Woods obviously isn't ML level ready. So now we need another ML RP. It could play if in the long run. Maybe there was little market for Jacob G.

Trade makes us worse right now.

6 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said:

I just don’t agree with this take. You think market value of a comp pick is a major league ready LH hitting infielder with plus plate discipline & power who brings a solid glove at multiple spots and comes with 6+ years of control.

The average career WAR for a comp A pick is ~4 I believe. Jacob is on pace for ~1.5 wins as a 1B and his bat is much better than his current season-to-date results. I think as a 2B his floor is a 2 win player and ceiling is much higher than that. Just playing the odds, he will be more valuable than the comp A pick.

Jacob’s history isn’t all that relevant. He reinvented his swing this offseason and was finally able to tap into his natural raw power. He came up to the majors and quickly demonstrated he wasn’t just a product of Truist Field. And he isn’t a guy strictly relying on his new found power…he was always a very disciplined hitter. He doesn’t have to hit 30 HRs to be a very valuable player.

I would say there have been few Chicago white Sox player forecasts that didn’t assert extremely rosy WAR as guarantees. He’s not very fast, he doesn’t hit for power, he slaps it the other way. Cool. Never seen the league adjust to make that the downside of a projection that’s for sure

8 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said:

He’s out number two prospect per Kiley and Law called him a potential star.

I hate this trade even more now.

6 minutes ago, Ozzie for Manager said:

Woods obviously isn't ML level ready. So now we need another ML RP. It could play if in the long run. Maybe there was little market for Jacob G.

Trade makes us worse right now.

Richarda will be back and Tanner M is gonna be up very soon

4 minutes ago, wegner said:

Why are you convinced they are taking Roch?

I really wasn't until the other day and I'm certain;y not 100% on this more like 65%. It's clear they need more RHH hitters and with Bonemer getting closer and Cholowsky it feels like at least one of them will hit it big. No Grichuk or Hays and maybe no Junior Perez and/or Pereira or Acuna and also already traded Derek Hill . That's a lot of RHH who aren't going to be around.

I get the trade. Huge logjam at middle infield with Roch or Emerson tomorrow. With this trade you will be able to get two high upside high school players that will hold trade value and sustain the farm system to keep on producing and developing on a consistent basis. It’s a crapshoot, but the MLB analytics weren’t the greatest for Gonzo when he was called up. He’s not playing in Charlotte in the MLB.

3 minutes ago, CaliSoxFanViaSWside said:

I really wasn't until the other day and I'm certain;y not 100% on this more like 65%. It's clear they need more RHH hitters and with Bonemer getting closer and Cholowsky it feels like at least one of them will hit it big. No Grichuk or Hays and maybe no Junior Perez and/or Pereira or Acuna and also already traded Derek Hill . That's a lot of RHH who aren't going to be around.

Lackey also hits RH and could it be possible they cut a deal to pay him less and now they have even more overslot money to play with? Or am I overthinking this??

20 minutes ago, Timmy U said:

This may also be the first of many moves to ease the upcoming 40 man roster crunch. They are currently at 39 with 8 guys on the 6o-day IL. I think it's likely that Mason Adams eventually gets added as well. So, even though I'm a little sad about this, it's not insane.

Just feels likes an overpay and that we should have gotten an actual nice 2nd piece along with the draft pick. I mean, the rumor is Pittsburgh was looking for a quality reliever for then pick prior to this. I struggle to think that an everyday positional player is worth less than that.

2 minutes ago, wegner said:

Lackey also hits RH and could it be possible they cut a deal to pay him less and now they have even more overslot money to play with? Or am I overthinking this??

The white Sox are not making draft decisions based on their current rosters handedness - I hope at least.

The 35 pick is worth like 9 million.

A 45 FV player close to the mlb is worth like 16-20 million.

Ignore opinions, etc. Value stinks.

8 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said:

I just don’t agree with this take. You think market value of a comp pick is a major league ready LH hitting infielder with plus plate discipline & power who brings a solid glove at multiple spots and comes with 6+ years of control.

The average career WAR for a comp A pick is ~4 I believe. Jacob is on pace for ~1.5 wins as a 1B and his bat is much better than his current season-to-date results. I think as a 2B his floor is a 2 win player and ceiling is much higher than that. Just playing the odds, he will be more valuable than the comp A pick.

Jacob’s history isn’t all that relevant. He reinvented his swing this offseason and was finally able to tap into his natural raw power. He came up to the majors and quickly demonstrated he wasn’t just a product of Truist Field. And he isn’t a guy strictly relying on his new found power…he was always a very disciplined hitter. He doesn’t have to hit 30 HRs to be a very valuable player.