Saturday at 11:07 PM2 days 25 minutes ago, mmmmmbeeer said:Resigned or resigned instead of being fired?interesting.Good question. Maybe he was about to be made a scapegoat?
Saturday at 11:07 PM2 days He's still angry that Getz big dicked him and took Hagen Smith over Griffin
Saturday at 11:31 PM2 days Wasn't the story that JR overruled him?Or Getz overruled all his scouts and has now won the organizational power struggle...at least temporarily.The farm system has been pretty dead the last two months, but it's not like recent prep picks such as Thome and Prosek have caused this...Ofc, the four main pitching prospects coming into 2025 all struggled. An organization thatA seemingly loaded up in the draft still finds itself in the middle of the team rankings rather than 8-10 despite two Top 30 talents in Bonemer and Roch. Edited Saturday at 11:37 PM2 days by caulfield12
Saturday at 11:34 PM2 days 1 minute ago, caulfield12 said:Wasn't the story that JR overruled him?Or Getz overruled all his scouts and has now won the organizational power struggle...at least temporarily.The farm system has been pretty dead the last two months, but it's not like recent prep picks such as Thome and Prosek have caused this...JR doing that wouldn't be a surprise and would be pretty sad.Getz doing that would suck because by all account he hasn't played the "power grab" game, but to be fair I probably get my information from biased sources. All that said, I haven't heard of any of this. What are the stories/sources?
Saturday at 11:42 PM2 days I don't want this to sound like speculation, but it could also be for a non baseball related reason and a life/family reason.
Saturday at 11:46 PM2 days 2 minutes ago, PaleAleSox said:I don't want this to sound like speculation, but it could also be for a non baseball related reason and a life/family reason.Sure but leaving the biggest breakthrough mlb success story of the season with just two weeks to go?Yes, the minor leagues and amateur scouting stuff has slowed down heading into the AFL, but the timing is quite strange.More to come SURELY. Edited Saturday at 11:47 PM2 days by caulfield12
Saturday at 11:50 PM2 days 7 minutes ago, PaleAleSox said:I don't want this to sound like speculation, but it could also be for a non baseball related reason and a life/family reason.Yeah, "I want to spend more time with my family."
Sunday at 12:21 AM2 days The team announced Shirley’s departure on Saturday, but has not yet revealed anymore information on the nature of the departure or the future of the amateur scouting department.Fegan 7:17 pm
Sunday at 12:23 AM2 days 41 minutes ago, PaleAleSox said:I don't want this to sound like speculation, but it could also be for a non baseball related reason and a life/family reason.Seems like they would have said that. A press statement like this just begs for speculation.
Sunday at 12:28 AM2 days I can't imagine it would be because of a deadline trade, did Shirley have any other roles or input about other parts of the club? Shirley was the guy responsible for Colson and Jacob Gonzalez right?
Sunday at 12:32 AM2 days My senseless speculation is I wonder if something around the rumored Roch vs Emerson stuff might have broken open.
Sunday at 12:35 AM2 days 2 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said:My senseless speculation is I wonder if something around the rumored Roch vs Emerson stuff might have broken open.I've been out of the loop and don't know what this is about. Can you share more?
Sunday at 12:40 AM2 days 6 minutes ago, joejoesox said:I can't imagine it would be because of a deadline trade, did Shirley have any other roles or input about other parts of the club? Shirley was the guy responsible for Colson and Jacob Gonzalez right?"Shirley was in his seventh season in this particular role after being promoted in September 2019. His work, along with many others in his department and throughout the organization, was center stage this year with the White Sox holding the top pick overall for the third time in franchise history and a record Draft pool at $20,489,500.Shortstop Roch Cholowsky was selected at one overall, the pick everyone expected when the White Sox won the Draft Lottery at the 2025 Winter Meetings. The White Sox were deemed to have a strong Draft overall.Garrett Crochet was Shirley’s first first-round pick at No. 11 in 2020."mlb.comSo also picked Colson Montgomery.So this is has to be all about Hagen/Griffin/Cags and the Emerson/Roch picks....maybe also forced to go with "safe/r" NCAA pick in Jacob Gonzalez. Edited Sunday at 12:43 AM2 days by caulfield12
Sunday at 12:41 AM2 days 5 minutes ago, MiddleCoastBias said:I've been out of the loop and don't know what this is about. Can you share more?Speculation of a split between scouting (Shirleys camp) who wanted Emerson and the higher ups who wanted Roch.
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