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If the Sox signed Q and Cruz, I would like their team more than the Padres

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Wow, Padres strike again and burn the hearts of White Sox fans. :(.

Every move they make strikes a weird jealous nerve in me. 

Great for them, and it does seem like Musgrove netted quite a bit of a return here. I'm not mad that the White Sox didn't match it/go for it with the return on Musgrove so far, but yeh it sucks for us. 

 

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Just now, fathom said:

If the Sox signed Q and Cruz, I would like their team more than the Padres

If we signed Odorizzi and Rosario I think I’d say same.

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50 minutes ago, Tony said:

The meltdown from Sox fans that is about to happen over Joe Musgrove is going to be epic 😂

Why? We should be aiming higher.

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35 minutes ago, bmags said:

so yeah we don’t have a system that can do the things preller has done.

The Padres offseason highlights how far the Sox have to go at player development compared to the organizations that really excel in that area.

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Not the end of the world, was fascinated by Musgrove but that was also assuming a semi reasonable price and I don’t think we could have pulled something like this.  Oh well, on to the next one.

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43 minutes ago, fathom said:

Also doesn’t help that all the outfield prospects didn’t pan out from the Rutherford, Gonzalez, Adolfo group

Ad if this is a lesson that needs to be learned since the Sox don't seem to do it very often is  SS's and CF's prospects get the most attention because they can be switched to other positions.

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46 minutes ago, fathom said:

Also doesn’t help that all the outfield prospects didn’t pan out from the Rutherford, Gonzalez, Adolfo group

Not didn't ; haven't  yet .

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6 minutes ago, iWiN4PreP said:

Wow, Padres strike again and burn the hearts of White Sox fans. :(.

Every move they make strikes a weird jealous nerve in me. 

Great for them, and it does seem like Musgrove netted quite a bit of a return here. I'm not mad that the White Sox didn't match it/go for it with the return on Musgrove so far, but yeh it sucks for us. 

 

But what did the Padres really give up?   More minor league depth, and Lucchesi is much more valuable to another team as a 5 than a long man.   They're actually better off not paying him and giving that spot to youngsters with more ability.  He's actually one of those guys like Davies that you put in the final slot and he won't kill you but he will keep any good offense within shouting distance. 

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3 minutes ago, maxjusttyped said:

The Padres offseason highlights how far the Sox have to go at player development compared to the organizations that really excel in that area.

I don’t even think it’s player development. It’s player acquisition.

But let’s also remember one thing: the mlb rewards the Padres, located in one of the richer locales in sports, another draft pick every draft that they can use to bundle budget and get a Hudson head. 
 

And they have an owner who spends more than ours. We are at a disadvantage there. I think we get less intl budget too? Just horseshit

 

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3 minutes ago, CaliSoxFanViaSWside said:

Ad if this is a lesson that needs to be learned since the Sox don't seem to do it very often is  SS's and CF's prospects get the most attention because they can be switched to other positions.

That's why Croenenworth, CJ Abrams and the Korean infielder will be so valuable.... positional versatility. 

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5 minutes ago, bmags said:

I don’t even think it’s player development. It’s player acquisition.

But let’s also remember one thing: the mlb rewards the Padres, located in one of the richer locales in sports, another draft pick every draft that they can use to bundle budget and get a Hudson head. 
 

And they have an owner who spends more than ours. We are at a disadvantage there. I think we get less intl budget too? Just horseshit

 

But the 28th or 29th media market...otoh, losing the Chargers and their NBA franchise consolidates sports marketing/sponsirship dollars as well as frees more fans for choosing ticket packages across just one sport versus three. 

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9 minutes ago, iWiN4PreP said:

Wow, Padres strike again and burn the hearts of White Sox fans. :(.

Every move they make strikes a weird jealous nerve in me. 

Great for them, and it does seem like Musgrove netted quite a bit of a return here. I'm not mad that the White Sox didn't match it/go for it with the return on Musgrove so far, but yeh it sucks for us. 

 

You're very weak if this "burns the heart."

The Sox were never rumored for Musgrove.  Don't have the prospects to make a trade like this.  There are similar level pitchers in Free Agency right now.

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28 minutes ago, HOFHurt35 said:

You're very weak if this "burns the heart."

The Sox were never rumored for Musgrove.  Don't have the prospects to make a trade like this.  There are similar level pitchers in Free Agency right now.

Quintana and Richards are similar to Musgrove? They're twice as expensive and twice as likely not to perform well. Musgrove really turned a corner last year. 

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3 minutes ago, bmags said:

I don’t even think it’s player development. It’s player acquisition.

But let’s also remember one thing: the mlb rewards the Padres, located in one of the richer locales in sports, another draft pick every draft that they can use to bundle budget and get a Hudson head. 
 

And they have an owner who spends more than ours. We are at a disadvantage there. I think we get less intl budget too? Just horseshit

 

They also have a GM who can evaluate players.  

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My kingdom for an owner that:

a - knows how to build an organization 

b - give a fuck 

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I'll take Quintana's track record 100 times over Musgrove "turning the corner last year."

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2 minutes ago, Harold's Leg Lift said:

They also have a GM who can evaluate players.  

He’s had as many pro scouting misses but yes his super power of latam scouting is the straw that stirs the drink

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Padres’s only real weakness was health of their rotation. They have that addressed now.

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2 minutes ago, thxfrthmmrs said:

Padres’s only real weakness was health of their rotation. They have that addressed now.

Not a fan of their outfield to be honest

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4 minutes ago, thxfrthmmrs said:

Padres’s only real weakness was health of their rotation. They have that addressed now.

I’m not impressed by their lineup as it currently stands. Great 3-4, after that? Lot of meh. 

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