fathom 5,734 Posted January 19 If the Sox signed Q and Cruz, I would like their team more than the Padres 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
caulfield12 1,850 Posted January 19 https://www.cbssports.com/mlb/news/padres-acquire-starter-joe-musgrove-in-three-team-trade-with-pirates-and-mets-per-report/ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iWiN4PreP 613 Posted January 19 Wow, Padres strike again and burn the hearts of White Sox fans. :(. Every move they make strikes a weird jealous nerve in me. Great for them, and it does seem like Musgrove netted quite a bit of a return here. I'm not mad that the White Sox didn't match it/go for it with the return on Musgrove so far, but yeh it sucks for us. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bmags 5,599 Posted January 19 Just now, fathom said: If the Sox signed Q and Cruz, I would like their team more than the Padres If we signed Odorizzi and Rosario I think I’d say same. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vulture 412 Posted January 19 Isn’t Campusano facing prison time on felony charges? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RagahRagah 628 Posted January 19 50 minutes ago, Tony said: The meltdown from Sox fans that is about to happen over Joe Musgrove is going to be epic 😂 Why? We should be aiming higher. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
maxjusttyped 154 Posted January 19 35 minutes ago, bmags said: so yeah we don’t have a system that can do the things preller has done. The Padres offseason highlights how far the Sox have to go at player development compared to the organizations that really excel in that area. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chicago White Sox 5,789 Posted January 19 Not the end of the world, was fascinated by Musgrove but that was also assuming a semi reasonable price and I don’t think we could have pulled something like this. Oh well, on to the next one. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CaliSoxFanViaSWside 2,175 Posted January 19 43 minutes ago, fathom said: Also doesn’t help that all the outfield prospects didn’t pan out from the Rutherford, Gonzalez, Adolfo group Ad if this is a lesson that needs to be learned since the Sox don't seem to do it very often is SS's and CF's prospects get the most attention because they can be switched to other positions. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CaliSoxFanViaSWside 2,175 Posted January 19 46 minutes ago, fathom said: Also doesn’t help that all the outfield prospects didn’t pan out from the Rutherford, Gonzalez, Adolfo group Not didn't ; haven't yet . 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
caulfield12 1,850 Posted January 19 6 minutes ago, iWiN4PreP said: Wow, Padres strike again and burn the hearts of White Sox fans. :(. Every move they make strikes a weird jealous nerve in me. Great for them, and it does seem like Musgrove netted quite a bit of a return here. I'm not mad that the White Sox didn't match it/go for it with the return on Musgrove so far, but yeh it sucks for us. But what did the Padres really give up? More minor league depth, and Lucchesi is much more valuable to another team as a 5 than a long man. They're actually better off not paying him and giving that spot to youngsters with more ability. He's actually one of those guys like Davies that you put in the final slot and he won't kill you but he will keep any good offense within shouting distance. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bmags 5,599 Posted January 19 3 minutes ago, maxjusttyped said: The Padres offseason highlights how far the Sox have to go at player development compared to the organizations that really excel in that area. I don’t even think it’s player development. It’s player acquisition. But let’s also remember one thing: the mlb rewards the Padres, located in one of the richer locales in sports, another draft pick every draft that they can use to bundle budget and get a Hudson head. And they have an owner who spends more than ours. We are at a disadvantage there. I think we get less intl budget too? Just horseshit Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
caulfield12 1,850 Posted January 19 3 minutes ago, CaliSoxFanViaSWside said: Ad if this is a lesson that needs to be learned since the Sox don't seem to do it very often is SS's and CF's prospects get the most attention because they can be switched to other positions. That's why Croenenworth, CJ Abrams and the Korean infielder will be so valuable.... positional versatility. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SoxSteve 102 Posted January 19 Musgrove = yawn. Sign Q and all will be well. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
caulfield12 1,850 Posted January 19 (edited) 5 minutes ago, bmags said: I don’t even think it’s player development. It’s player acquisition. But let’s also remember one thing: the mlb rewards the Padres, located in one of the richer locales in sports, another draft pick every draft that they can use to bundle budget and get a Hudson head. And they have an owner who spends more than ours. We are at a disadvantage there. I think we get less intl budget too? Just horseshit But the 28th or 29th media market...otoh, losing the Chargers and their NBA franchise consolidates sports marketing/sponsirship dollars as well as frees more fans for choosing ticket packages across just one sport versus three. Edited January 19 by caulfield12 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HOFHurt35 458 Posted January 19 9 minutes ago, iWiN4PreP said: Wow, Padres strike again and burn the hearts of White Sox fans. :(. Every move they make strikes a weird jealous nerve in me. Great for them, and it does seem like Musgrove netted quite a bit of a return here. I'm not mad that the White Sox didn't match it/go for it with the return on Musgrove so far, but yeh it sucks for us. You're very weak if this "burns the heart." The Sox were never rumored for Musgrove. Don't have the prospects to make a trade like this. There are similar level pitchers in Free Agency right now. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
caulfield12 1,850 Posted January 19 (edited) 28 minutes ago, HOFHurt35 said: You're very weak if this "burns the heart." The Sox were never rumored for Musgrove. Don't have the prospects to make a trade like this. There are similar level pitchers in Free Agency right now. Quintana and Richards are similar to Musgrove? They're twice as expensive and twice as likely not to perform well. Musgrove really turned a corner last year. Edited January 19 by caulfield12 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Harold's Leg Lift 1,146 Posted January 19 3 minutes ago, bmags said: I don’t even think it’s player development. It’s player acquisition. But let’s also remember one thing: the mlb rewards the Padres, located in one of the richer locales in sports, another draft pick every draft that they can use to bundle budget and get a Hudson head. And they have an owner who spends more than ours. We are at a disadvantage there. I think we get less intl budget too? Just horseshit They also have a GM who can evaluate players. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RTC 191 Posted January 19 My kingdom for an owner that: a - knows how to build an organization b - give a fuck Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HOFHurt35 458 Posted January 19 I'll take Quintana's track record 100 times over Musgrove "turning the corner last year." 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bmags 5,599 Posted January 19 2 minutes ago, Harold's Leg Lift said: They also have a GM who can evaluate players. He’s had as many pro scouting misses but yes his super power of latam scouting is the straw that stirs the drink Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thxfrthmmrs 649 Posted January 19 Padres’s only real weakness was health of their rotation. They have that addressed now. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fathom 5,734 Posted January 19 2 minutes ago, thxfrthmmrs said: Padres’s only real weakness was health of their rotation. They have that addressed now. Not a fan of their outfield to be honest Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tony 3,008 Posted January 19 4 minutes ago, thxfrthmmrs said: Padres’s only real weakness was health of their rotation. They have that addressed now. I’m not impressed by their lineup as it currently stands. Great 3-4, after that? Lot of meh. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
