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I feel like there are more people who post here frequently that are hoping for this organization to fail than there are people who generally want them to take the next step. Kind of sad.

The Yerminator! 2-4 with 1BB and 3R. Patiently biding his time. OPS all the way down to 0.963 though.

Ok so Micker Adolfo is in the lineup for AZL on a rehab assignment...

It is. But I'd prefer he didn't have to hit .325 to have it that high lol

This isn't true. In his last 10 games he's hitting .200/.233/.250, and in his last 15 he's hitting .254/.297/.390. It seems like the point you're trying to make is that he's hitting .133/.222/.133 in Charlotte, but that's 15 at-bats so I'm not sure what the purpose of that point is aside from trolling.

Wish I could give this a million likes.

I would be very surprised. Kid has played alot of baseball this season and you can tell he's a bit tired. I think like Madrigal the Sox feel his bat is too advanced anyway for AFL so he'll likely either start in Birmingham or W-S for a brief stint.

Considering that the "juiced ball" theory is true, there is sufficient evidence that the change of ball composition took place in 2015. And as far as the whole "bad hitters were WAY worse" theory, no they're not. Saladino, Sanchez and LaRoche were horrendous in 2015. Both squads had holes in their lineup where the OPS dropped into the low .600 or even .500. However, the 2020 squad will not be relying on any of those players posting those stats minus perhaps Sanchez for a time before Madrigal arrives. The Sox had no in-house answers to improve catcher, 2B, 3B and DH that year. The Sox have in-house solutions to every position minus RF.

You're saying that if they invested in 2020, they would be going for it before they were ready. That is utter nonsense. There is no picking and choosing when the window opens. The window to compete begins in 2020, whether they want to "go for it" or not. The clock is ticking on their core players. Robert and Madrigal are inbound in 2020. Moncada, Anderson, Jimenez, etc. are under control. The Sox also have guys like Kopech, Dunning and Rodon who are currently on the IL but are expected back in 2020. It's nothing like 2015. This is already a better lineup, with incoming support to only make it better, and an impending insertion of Kopech at the very least, with several quality veteran arms available. The results for the year may be the same, and the team may underachieve, but it wouldn't be the same result. The Sox in 2015 were not built to get much better than they were. Their ceiling was in the mid 80's at best with the talent assembled, even accounting for peak Chris Sale and Quintana. The lineup should be stabilized in 2020, and the pitching staff has a ton of room to grow with returning players and young arms improving. Really it comes down to this. You think the Sox should hold off until 2021, but the fact is that the Sox can't afford to play it safe.

Considering the teams he has played for, you can say the same for anyone who has done well. One thing you should keep in mind, just because Ron posts it doesn't mean it's true. He's not the internet.

Yah, he's lost right now. Still confident that hit tool will come around. Hitting major league pitching is hard.

Hitting well too

I agree with this. By now the team knows the progress of the rebuild. Some pieces are there, and it is time to move on. Money needs to be spent if they want to win, and there is no way around it. Sitting around waiting for more young players to develop is another example of insanity. At least one major move has to be made, or fans will wonder what this franchise really wants to be. A winning team or the Pirates?

what a disgusting pos how do you even bring that into the dms? With the fucking Andersons of all people. I tell you one thing Swarzak better tell his wife to STFU but you know he probably agrees with her neanderthal takes. And good on Giolito for calling them out.

Lol at 2021 at the earliest. If this team is not contending by 2021 then the rebuild has been a total flop. The goal should be to compete next year. Whether the young guys take the necessary steps forward is a TBD, but wasting another year of Moncada, Giolito, etc. would be absolute insanity. The clock starts ticking this offseason.

Here it is! The top 30 prospects in the White Sox farm system as voted on by the staff at FutureSox. You may also read the descriptions of prospects ranked 16-30 HERE.

Adolfo BB Gladney 2 BBs. Great to see from the kid.

Frare also on AZL rehab

Just noticed Chase Krogman also back in the lineup from injury. Yaaaaay!!

We’re exaggerating to say Giolito is going to end the year comparable to peak Sale, because that’s a surefire Hall of Fame pitcher prior to this season. Unless you just go by his consecutive games winning stretch. Quintana...sure.

I agree with all of this I was just making an observation

Dan of Steele with the A plus post. Keep 'em coming Dan. Nice post! Greg agrees.

LaRoche was an NL hitter and 35 years old when he signed. KW pulled an Adam Dunn 2 Electric Boogaloo. Pitching staff is an unfair comparison, since this group lost Kopech and Rodon to injury. The Sox will add Kopech to the rotation, bare minimum. Giolito is pitching at a level comparable to Sale or Quintana. Cease will continue to improve. Lopez appears to have fix his issues and is playing at a higher level. You add the possibility of adding a quality veteran arm via FA, then you have a fairer comparison regarding pitching rotations. Then combined with a superior lineup.

Always thought Mold A Rama machines at GRF of specific players would be an incredible idea.

Our biggest needs are RF and starting pitching. Grandal would be really nice and he could shift around from C/1B/DH but I think the FO will see him as a luxury and not a need. There is no reason we can't get multiple premium FA's. The arbitrary 140 mil payroll you proposed is just that. If in 2021 we need a piece or 2 and the team is close I find it hard to believe that couldn't be bumped. We might have tradeable assets by then too.

So you want the guy who is worse offensively and defensively because it will save $ 3 million? Do you really think that savings would improve a higher end free agent or trade target choice. There will be plenty of options. I don't want either to come back. But injuries happen. They need someone who can be reasonably expected to fill in for a week or two and not be a black hole.

Crazy portion of the schedule. We just played 3 games in 24 hours and won't take the field for 52 hours after the end of today's game. We then play games on 17 consecutive days, which include trips to and from the West Coast. Good thing we're not in a pennant race this year.

They both suck. If were picking between two guys who suck I'll take the cheap one. The optimal thing to do would be find someone else.

I think it's hilarious that people are pissed at the sox and Jerry for not spending money but would rather have Goins here than Yolmer primarily because dude is cheaper. Cmon now. We've seen Goins for what a couple weeks?

Not traditional college. But fine, 1 in 7 years. Top-shelf work.

And not particularly loved by his players. That might be a good thing.

I don't think Rutherford would lead the AZL in home runs, let alone the high A level. Going back to that level wouldn't suddenly make him superman.

I will let the Cubs out of that contract if they agree to retroactively forfeit the 2016 season. Deal? When you sign players to a multi-year deal, the length of the deal generally helps the team, not hurts them...in the sense that the team spreads payroll out over a longer term. What you really want is a guy who can help you win the next 3-4 years, and if you are paying a guy when they fall off...it doesn't matter because you won.

I think what ultimately matters is what Jason Kinander and his sources think. He is on fire. He almost got one right recently.

Collins last 10: .389 AVG, .476 OBP, 2 HR, 13 RBI, and 7 ks over that time. Think it's time to call him up and give him consistent at bats. The k's will always be there but so will the walks and hopefully power.

He's the VP of the Unwritten Rules Committee

Is big three signings like Robertson/Cabrera/LaRoche or JUST one for a starting pitcher in the $50-75 million range? Two for under $100 million? For example, Wood and Grandal? Ozuna and Odorizzi? Ryu and Puig/Castellanos? I can just imagine it now...if/when they do bring back Abreu, hearing how they DID spend X amount of dollars defending their offseason. Because we managed to bring in over $30 million of new contracts this year and we all know how well most of those (other than McCann, the cheapest of all) worked out. So our definition should be bringing in players with 3 year contracts and beyond, then?

If they don’t spend big this offseason, then the fanbase should riot. Now is the time to be aggressive.

When Moncada comes back they should move Goins to 2nd and move Yolmer to the bench role.

A mutual option is basically the same as being a free agent.

Detroit and KC are so bad. Cleveland is nearing the end of their run. Minnesota is good but Cruz is 39, and I doubt they keep hitting homers at this current rate beyond this season. It won’t take a great team to compete. It’s time for “a great lossy for the rebuild” to be put to bed. If next year is a real struggle, I think they are going to really take a hit support wise.

If we can't trade for a controllable LH RF, I've warmed to the idea of giving Alex Gordon a 1 year deal. He should be relatively cheap, knows the central really well (obviously), and at least plays really good D. Not a long term commitment and gives the OF prospects another year to see if someone emerges (still hopeful on Micker). I've made it no secret that I think the Sox should trade for a controllable LH RF, but obviously a little easier said that done. I wouldn't hate Gordon as a fallback option. Offseason: Sign Gerrit Cole - 6 years, $200M Sign Grandal - 3 years, $56M Sign Alex Wood - 1 year, $10M Sign Alex Gordon - 1 year, $8M Sign Jose Abreu - 1 year, $10M Line-up by mid-May: Robert CF, Moncada 3B, Eloy LF/RF, Grandal C/1B/DH, Abreu DH/1B, Alex Gordon RF/LF, Anderson SS, McCann / Collins C/DH/1B, Madrigal 2B BN: Leury, Goins, Collins/McCann Rotation: Cole, Giolito, Cease, Wood, Lopez (Kopech joins shortly thereafter; Rodon waiting in wings to save Kopech/Cease innings in July on) Pen could use some work. Could convince me to use the money I gave to Wood on some relievers and just let Kopech go from the start. Payroll would be in the $125-$130M range for 2020. Alot to add, but its not like the Sox haven't operated in that realm in the past.

In a vacuum their numbers look similar but Walker has been a good bit better. Walker wRC+ is 132 while Rutherfords was 120. Walker has had a really nice season.

I don't give two fucks about the cubs, or half the shit you ramble on and on and on about on a White Sox message board that doesn't have a damn thing to do with the topic.

I see no reason why this team can’t compete in 2020 IF (and perhaps a big IF), they add at least one front end SP, a RF, another solid bat to either play 1B/C/DH and a veteran pensman or two. Most will say that is a lot to ask, but I am looking at a team with a sub $50M payroll next season and I think that figure will be at a minimum doubled come Opening Day.

The 2019 season would have been a lot better if Kopech and Rodon had been healthy. Hopefully both will be able to pitch successfully in 2020. That being said, I still wish that JR would sell the team.

The shitty lineups suck, but to me the bunting takes the cake. It’s embarrassing how much Renteria bunts.

He's not on the White Sox.