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Wait, did YOU just tell people not to assume and jump to conclusions?

Somewhat nonsurprisingly, in fact not surprisingly at all, i've been sitting here watching people say their 30 year old healthy relative died from this on twitter and just waiting for someone (basically you, tinfoil hat person) to make this point. It's focused in people who have compounding issues, but if you take an average across the age group in the recent CDC data you can estimate a death rate for the 20-39 age group that covers MLB. Basically the rule with this bug seems to be once your lungs are fully developed the death rate is 0.45% (4 or more times the flu) until you get to the 80 year old population where it skyrockets and kills everyone. IF MLB has a lower rate of people with underlying conditions then their rate will be lower, but for that age group the difference might well not be all that large. On average, if you had 900 people in MLB and you just let all of them get infected, for those age groups....you are talking about killing a couple of baseball players. The average would be 3. A healthy population would give you 2. And that doesn't count your coaching and training staffs, and it doesn't consider long-term issues in the survivors (Such as the stuff hitting youths below 18). The science really tells you that this virus has a lot of problems you simply cannot expect just from your population statistics. It just flat out kills a lot of people and if your sample size is high enough you will kill someone from that group and you will be devastated from that. Treatment is getting better, but damn this thing is really awful.

One of the biggest things I'm worried about as a Sox fan, and it's very ironic...is that the changing economics post covid make all of the contracts that were signed over the 18 months overpayments, and it significantly hampers the Sox ability to retain talent and even keep those players. Imagine if the going rate for stars drops to a point where Moncada and Robert's contracts are market value or worse. What if Grandal and Keuchel's contracts look ridiculous as soon as this winter? How would that affect the Sox window? Things are even worse for the Angels with Trout and Rendon's contracts probably making it impossible to build a team around them, and the Phillies might get messed up from Harper and Wheeler. Not only would these contracts be impossible to build around, they could be impossible to move.

Go back to 2010, the Tea Party Patriots and Mitch McConnell deliberately obstructing everything Obama tried to do...even after the Dems actually made numerous attempts to compromise. If Trump loses in November, he will spend every single day of those subsequent four years trying to destroy Biden, not any different from the birther controversy. Fox News, Breitbart, Alex Jones, Rush, OAN, etc. will do the exact same. Why would anyone expect that dichotomy to change, the divisiveness to be healed? It only seems MORE unfair is because this last month has been the bottom of the Trump presidency in terms of support and polling. Obama reached similar numbers in the upper 30’s, but actually had the ability to reach out to more than just his base. In fact, you can say the same of every President re-elected in modern times, even GW Bush and Nixon.

Death is not the only problem with this virus. The worse cases that don't kill people leave people with permanent severe lung damage. This virus could leave someone like Yoan Moncada alive, but unable to ever play baseball again.

So the US dollar remains strong in this scenario, and there is possibly deflation instead of inflation? But the revenue from baseball is just astronomically lower? I don't buy it. If anything, I think these contracts will look even better due to inflation.

I'm not sure how the players can say no unless they want to file a grievance. Saying no means they get 50 games instead of 60.

It seems odd that he is holding campaign rallies during a pandemic and wants to slow testing down. No matter how he spins things, COVID-19 is going to be an issue in America even after the election and it is impacting people who are vulnerable. I can’t support the approach he has taken with the virus as of late and how he shows a complete disregard for science and that community. I can criticize him fairly, even though I know he only cares about his base and not moderate independents like me.

I really enjoy the Onion's daily podcast for something light.

This is getting awfully political and particularly nasty towards our president. Please remember the rules and treat out president fairly

scumbag

Another UDFA signing https://goseattleu.com/news/2020/6/20/baseball-jenkins-inks-deal-with-white-sox.aspx

So you are taking anecdotal evidence (twitter) that 30 year olds are dying and then laying in wait for someone to disagree with you and insult them (tinfoil hats)?? What's the matter with having a reasoned argument? You make a claim that 3 out of 900 baseball players will be dead if they play baseball. Last week in all of America there were 4 men out of 35 million between 18-34 that died of Coronavirus (https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid_weekly/index.htm#AgeAndSex) and only a few hundred since the outbreak...and your own link (to make this point) says you are 12 times more likely to die if you have an underlying condition. This thing is really awful disease for old people and people with underlying conditions. It is a bad flu for young people. The risk of death is not zero but for most baseball players it is very very close to zero. Give the players that data and let them chose for themselves. Its not idiotic to suggest that there are inherent dangers to living and just learning to deal with that risk is something we humans do every time we step in a car (WAY deadlier for males 18-34 than Covid-19).

The back and forth between players and owners is not resolving the intractable issues posed by this virus. For that and other reasons I think it is time to bag an abbreviated 2020 baseball season without fans and wait to see how this virus impacts us over the next several months.

I’m not sure what you’re arguing here though. The reality is not all players will get COVID-19 and those that do may get it for reasons other than playing baseball. But more importantly, the players get to decide if they want to take a small risk in exchange for hundreds of thousands or millions of dollars. They aren’t being forced to play baseball against their will, they can opt-out if they feel they are high risk or simply don’t want to chance it. Again, just trying to understand what you are arguing here, because I’ve seen you make this “someone might die” statement before and not really sure if you saying we shouldn’t allow guys to play baseball or what.

It’s even worse. Are there really other politicians who would want to cut back testing during a pandemic, other than dictators.

Well we still don’t know anything about the virus. It’s possible that most of the MLB players could become positive and never have a single person get sick or require hospitalization. What’s likely is something in between. If every player got infected at once, some would probably get sick. It’s hard to say, simply statistically, if any would require hospitalization. I would lean towards probably not but of course I’m just speculating, just like anybody who takes a counter opinion to what I’m saying. It’s all speculation. This is definitely a giant mess any way you slice it. The science just isn’t there to even suggest a course of action yet outside of a bubble.

If the Sox would have held on to all those jerseys sale cut up, they could have repurposed them and made a fortune on masks. Who knew?

Only losers wear face masks. I ain't wearing that shit

I think it was easy to interpret what he meant was that the cost of ownership compared to a regular vehicle. Obviously much less maintenance and fuel costs.

Man he holds that ball hidden for a long time in his windup. He's going to slay lefties for his career let's just hope it's as a long time starter and not closer.