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I honestly don’t understand why you are clearly more mad at this site for deciding that this and the last couple seasons results are unacceptable, than you are mad at Reinsdorf for being the puppet master of it all.

I don't get emotional about sports like you losers. I get emotional about the tone on sports message boards.

Yeah, people just saying the same thing over and over gets super annoying. Totally agree.

I'm having trouble associating the owner of a billion dollar franchise with a greeter at Walmart.

If your expectation for him to drool during a press conference, then he clearly isn't capable of running an organization, and someone who is still involved in the day to day decision making process, when it comes to baseball.

I guess I’ll be the contrarian. I was really upset about the season, but then I read the letter. I’m all in now. They’ve got this.

If you claiming that the head of a billion dollar operation giving a press conference is "elder abuse" is you not being emotional, I would HATE to see you get emotional.

Comparing the billionaire owner and real estate magnate to a minimum wage employee of a corporate mega company is completely hilarious and delusional. The latter is there because they likely can’t afford to put dinner on the table every night, the former is an ultra wealthy fan treating professional franchises like a hobby while continuously trying to extort taxpayers for his own personal and professional benefit.

I remember when you yourself used to be funny and sarcastic, and now you just tell us all that there is nothing that can be done nothing will change, suck it up everyone this is how it is. we all get older Jimbo

Dear Jerry, Go f*** Yourself. Signed White Sox fans

I’d be a lot more patient with Getz in charge of this rebuild if he showed any acumen in terms of making quality trades. If he can’t evaluate talent, this team will continue to lose 100 games for the perceivable future.

Oh god, "like you I am disappointed" no no, he is nothing like me, he is directly responsible for it. I'm just out here giving them great ideas for free.

Maybe not, but I believe the chance of ultimate success would be much higher. We've played this same game for so long.

We're in basic agreement here, as part of the reason there was so much anger about the "not wanting to waste a year" was because the fan base knew this was not an easy fix. However, and something you've spent plenty of time arguing with people over, is the entire premise of why Getz is here. Jerry is a lot of things, but he's not a dumb person. He stood in front of the media last season, twice actually (he also held a private, media-selected interview in his office the same day as the press conference) and in both cases, cited the main reason of hiring Getz was not wanting to waste a year, he knew the people in the organization, he knew what needed to be fixed and corrected. He wanted this fixed, but also fast, because he doesn't have a lot of time left to waste, and because Getz had been here, he made the most sense. While I don't think Jerry truly thought 2024 would be a team competing for a playoff spot, clearly he didn't think it would go like this, otherwise we don't get two statements from him at the end of the year. The frustration from fans comes from the idea that because Chris Getz has worked within the White Sox organization, he automatically has a leg up on any other human that could have assumed this role. No one else on Earth could have accomplished what Chris Getz did in 2024, because he already knew what was broken, as he was already "inside" the building. The hell with interviewing anyone from the outside, or from organizations that have run laps around the White Sox the last decade plus, Chris Getz can fix this thing faster than anyone because he knows the team. And that's why he is assuming the role of GM for the White Sox. That's it. And that's why people won't accept him as deserving of this role.

Everyone has to work hard for their break. The best minds think creatively. some people might even give away jeeps to execs at the team to help get promoted. @Harold's Leg Lift have you ever heard of that happening?

Nah you aren’t even saying that you are reading the same thing over and over, you are telling everyone that being mad at JR is dumb and there is no ROI on this sport for anyone. If you don’t like the content on the site during the worst season in the history of the game, I don’t know what to tell you man. It all sucks but hey keep being mad at the board 👍

He’d be a terrible fit to work above anyone. He’s a good #2, he shouldn’t be in charge of any org. The Giants drafted poorly under him, their FA signings didn’t work out, and he couldn’t land the big fish despite having an owner willing to sign the big checks. He should’ve been fired last year but he hired Kapler to save himself.

I have never seen someone have the need to tell other people so aggressively to not care and to not have expectations. Cool, we get it.

I don't understand why we need a press conference. The letter was perfect and said it all.

Although if Jerry wants to stand at the door at 35th and Shields checking tickets I will be happy to tell him to f*** off and I’m sure I’m not the only one

He's 88 years old. What do you want? Do you also go to your local Walmart and cuss out the 83 year old greeter for asking to see your receipt? Watching an 88 year get humiliated because his baseball team sucks doesn't seem like a lot of fun to me. I couldn't give a s%*# about Jerry, but I'm not going to get any pleasure out of watching an elderly man drool through a press conference.

The team lost 121 games. There should be a parade to the door at the White Sox offices with ex-employees holding boxes with their belongings.

I agree with at least 95% of this. I think most of us feel, unless the Sox do things the exact opposite of what they have been doing, it's just going to be the same. This rebuild was a spectacular failure. Since they lost to Houston in the playoffs, they have averaged over 100 losses a season. That wasn't what we were told was going to happen. I also think people don't trust Getz because he was here and a part of that epic failure. Once JR got the guts to tell RH and KW to scram, he needed to totally clean house. But he didn't. This can't waste a year, wasted a year and more people, who should have been let go with KW and RH, are shown the door. And we know at this stage, there is zero chance JR will change, so once they do, or if they do get to a point where they need to add a couple of pieces to get over the top, it will fail again. It's like Charlie Brown and the football.

I am going to measure how serious they are about getting better using Gavin Sheets as the barometer. He sucks. He'll be 29 next year, his HR rate has gone down 3 straight seasons. He doesn't get on base much, doesn't hit for a lot of power, isn't a plus defensively. If they are still trying to fit him in as a 4 or 5 hitter next season, they are full of s%*#. I'm sure he's a nice guy, but he had his chance. Move on.

Everyone knows the entire franchise is pure trash. Repeating it ad nauseam changes nothing. Protesting changes nothing. This can either be a website that is an echo chamber of "no s%*#, we suck" or the website it used to be - full of highly knowledgeable fans who understand the situation, talk about the nuances of the sport and makes s%*# loads of great, sarcastic jokes. I miss the days of this board having tons of hilarious posters that were Sox fans but always had a charm. I remember when fans of other teams used to follow this board because it was dry, sarcastic and hilarious. Maybe a lot of the posters have moved on. Maybe we're just all too old to be funny. Man, I miss the old Soxtalk though.

The guy released two statements before the season ended, one shortly before they got the record and one right after they locked up the record. It’s pretty obvious to me and everyone else [but you apparently] what he’s trying to avoid but you can think what you want. Jerry doesn’t want to publicly face the music and potentially be put on the spot and expected to answer any questions, much less difficult ones. But yes, Bruce Levine and Bob Nightengale were also going to form a tag team and beat Jerry up. That’s exactly what I meant. Your biceps must be huge by now…

I'm looking forward to buying into the hype of our MiLB teams. I'm going to bask in the feeling of it's going to get better. I'm going to believe the next manager is going to grow with the team. I'm too old to be pessimistic. Life is too precious.

I am sad I missed this obviousness.

The constant stream of leaks about how great the offers are for Crochet and the moment they flip into "Well that was the best offer available", both of which somehow mean that Getz is doing a great job.

I still like baseball and this is a baseball site, so I frequent the board. I also don't let sports get me emotional. There's already 10 posters saying the exact same thing every single day. We don't need 11. Jerry's a terrible owner. No s%*#.

Mike North? Lmao not one person here would expect anything out of that s%*# bag. nah, some actual journalists like maybe the guys who just lit him up in print, like Rosenthal and Stark and Passan, as well as the local guys like Fegan and Sullivan and the rest of them. I don’t give a damn if he mealy mouths his way through it, ask the questions and make him squirm. Instead, he drops a “sorry guys we are gonna be better sometime sry” letter in the middle of a bears game

The calls for him to die, which I do not endorse, will be drowned out because by the time your scenerio occurs, he will be 120 years old.

Lol at this phrasing. Very controversial take here, but yes, I think the billionaire whose laziness and stubbornness is the principal reason the team sucks should indeed have to explain himself to the fans that he continues to take money from.

Lol wut?

I’m in no way endorsing this move as I previously said, and bringing up one of the most angrily misogynistic and racist players really helps you prove your point

Rewatched some Last Dance the other night. JR talking about how he hand picked Crumbs and how genius he knew that move would be really pissed me off in light of the last twenty years of his ownership in Chicago. You got fucking lucky bro. You got stupidly lucky that you had MJ fall into your lap and then Krause had a few magic offseasons (all possible because you had MJ of course) and then after MJ left you went right back to being a perennial bottom feeder until Rose fell into your lap at 1.8%. JR is so far up his own ass and is now so old and ingrained in his thinking that until he dies or sells nothing will change. He'll keep just hiring guys that suck up to him and hoping he somehow finds another Jordan and Krause. It ain't gonna happen.

The White Sox not playing baseball is what I'm looking forward to the most.

Yeah, this is where I am. There is accountability for a bad season, and then there is accountability for the worst season in major league history. Someone should stand up in front of a microphone and not only halfheartedly take the blame, while simultaneous trying to blame others, but should be forced to actually articulate something deeper than they are hiring. Does it make a difference? Probably not, but that isn't the point. If the Sox aren't willing to acknowledge the fanbase with any respect, I sure feel no need to treat them as a serious entertainment option.

Can I interest you in a formerly highly rated prospect experiencing failure?

I refuse to even read it. My response is as follows: Suck dicks, Jerry.

He got promoted and there's a NEW head of player dev! Exactly what you all wanted!

"Chris is rebuilding the foundation of our baseball operations department, with key personnel changes already happening in player development" Yeah, JR/Chris, who was that bum in charge of player development? What happened to him?

Two weeks ago I thought they were a lock for 125 losses. Surprised they ended up with “only” 121 and better win % than 1962 Mets. I don’t think 125 would have been touched again in my lifetime but I think 121 certainly will (perhaps by the Sox next season).

Someone using the term “laughingstock” isn’t an idiot bro dude lmao. This is one of your saddest attempts to label everyone else.

Why should any of us feel any shame? We didn't build the worst team in baseball history. All I receive is pity nowadays when I say I'm a Sox fan. Nobody is making fun of Sox fans, they're commiserating with us.

I am not looking forward to anything. I have no expectations. None whatsoever.

Bruce Levine hasn't been alive since 1987.

Definitely Jerry talking about the stadium and making thinly veiled threats about moving the team. A close second is when he inevitably blames the fan base for a lack of offseason spending.

Especially when Getz trades them for a near zero meaningful return. They also package Benintendi with someone for salary relief and decline Moncadas option and…although those two both sucked, they are at least mildly serviceable MLB level players. If you thought this looked like a AAA this season just wait.