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Who was available that you’d actually want? I’m fine with him growing with the team.

Wow, reading some of the posts here, you'd think Chicago has become a crime-ridden, nightmarish hellhole where people are afraid to venture outdoors even downtown. I guess someone forgot to tell the 55 million tourist who visited Chicago last year. All those people pictured crowding the lakefront path in this article don't exactly look like they're running for their lives to me. https://chicago.suntimes.com/money/2025/05/16/chicago-visitors-tourists-2024-prepandemic And it looks like no one is flying into Chicago anymore, either, since this city is going down the toilet: https://wgntv.com/news/chicago-news/ohare-close-to-dethroning-atlanta-as-americas-busiest-airport/ All snark aside, I know Chicago certainly has its problems, but let's not get carried away here with making it out like it's the Beirut of the Midwest.

This is jobs created. Simply put. This is subsidizing growth in the area, which Arlington Heights has agreed to with the Bears. No, I don’t think I want the bears paying for interchanges and new train stops because I don’t want them to have a say in any of that, I want them to be properly constructed so that we can’t ask ourselves if someone cut corners because they wanted to save money because they didn’t even want to build this s%*# anyways, they just wanted to build their stadium on their plot. if you want to rage against the entire idea of building a stadium, have at it. I’m not arguing with you about that. Usually these things are boondoggles because of the public money asked for to build things that the owners should pay for themselves, like part of the stadium. I’m operating under the assumption that they are being honest about paying for their own stadium. Infrastructure upgrades are necessary at the city and state level for this, it is what it is. That is the states property. The increased traffic is business for everyone and they need it addressed.

Also, people need to stop watching Fox "News". Or just continue to s%*# yourself anytime you drive through a neighborhood where minorities live. The most dangerous parts of the country are pretty much all found in RURAL America. PER CAPITA is an important part of statistics. Crime is also down EVERYWHERE in this country, even if the media wants you to believe otherwise. The data is readily accessible to anyone who gives a damn. Try reading sometime.

Tampa needed a warm body for depth while navigating injuries in the run up to the deadline when Lowe and HSK both went down a few games apart. Gray had been in their system previously and has options, so they picked him up for cash. He's only up again now because Aranda fractured his wrist the following week, not because the Rays "clearly preferred" him to Mead. Gray is a 29 year old with less than 50 career MLB ABs, Mead is a 24 year old former top 50 prospect. These are not comparable players, and Gray backfilling an IF roster spot after injuries/trades doesn't mean they should have comparable value.

But the state isn't building them new stadiums. They're paying for the infrastructure that their responsible for to turn empty, non-tax revenue generating land into tax revenue generating land. Would you rather Arlington Park and The 78 just sit empty with nothing happening on them, not contributing anything? I guess from your position on your couch in Idaho it doesn't matter and this isn't about anything more than sports, but at least try to look at the big picture a bit.

Keep our Panther Man and let him bond with Colson

Getting anything for a dude that was an MiLB free agent this season is a win.

This is garbage. Stick to what you said, and don’t talk politics

Well, when Colson falls apart, here's why. He got gregd

For a bunch of those managers, I feel like I can remember some board hate for them (Phil Nevin?). As for any of them, they all become stupid once their team starts losing. And every single criticism of Venable would apply to them (not warming up a reliever at the beginning of every inning, not starting the 9 best players 162 games in a perfectly arranged batting order, etc.). There's really about a small handful of candidates who truly suck. They can't command a clubhouse, or are rage addicted, or have really weird ideas of how to manage a ballgame, pitching staff, or whatnot.

Love the no-stress 9th inning. Nice win, fellas.

Why don't the Sox hit a bunch of homers every game? Are they stupid?

I await the Bob Nightengale Tweet, scolding, "Lenyn Sosa and Davis Martin were certainly available at the trade deadline."

I think it was a joke, but at best it was creepy.

It is would be criminally negligent to be the one community losing businesses because you are the only one NOT offering incentives.

Why should the people who live in that area pay for infrastructure upgrades that are only needed because the Bears are building a stadium there? What do they get out of it, outside of increased taxes, traffic, headaches, and everything around them being torn up and under construction? This mentality is why 60+ million Americans are eating huge electricity price increases so trillion dollar companies have enough power for their fucking AI data centers. Which, ironically, will just put more Americans out of work. Rich people are the average Joe's enemy and the quicker people figure this out, the sooner we can start clawing back money from the massive, ever increasing wealth inequality. The Bears want a new stadium, then pony up the money for EVERYTHING that requires or get fucked. We are all tired of subsidizing rich people.

Caulfield are you ok

To redirect, it is interesting looking at Monty as a #22 pick, compared to other #22s. I got a bit down on him this spring and thought that if he achieved something along the lines of a couple other #22's, Kolton Wong and Jayson Werth, he'd amass 14-17 bWAR in his 6-7 years of team control. At that time, I thought that would be phenomenal. Expecting him to hit the highs of Craig Biggio (23 bWAR) or Raffy Palmiero (27 bWAR) would mean expecting him to be on track for a Hall-of-Fame career. Chet Lemon also put up around 25 bWAR in his first 6+ seasons. The league's going to adjust to him, he'll have some sort of sophomore slump along the way, but I'm thinking that he looks like his glove and power could buoy him along as an average to moderately above average SS/3B (2-3 bWAR, annually). But if he hits like this, omg.

It took 4 minutes for him to jettison this theory.

Since 7/1 he's here's how he ranks among AL 2nd Basemen. Avg .288 1st Slg .525 1st HR 8 1st RBI 26 1st

Below average but not a butcher.

Sure, because he already burned this franchise to the ground.

I think I'm going to throw up.

They are gonna pay a lot of people to build a lot of s%*# in and around that property once this gets going. Plus the entertainment district they intend to build. If you dont think that is created jobs, I dont know what to tell you. Companies all over the Chicagoland area have been positioning themselves for bids as soon as this became a reality. Again, if you have a problem with all stadiums, that’s fine whatever. I get that, all I’m saying here is no the Bears shouldn’t make decisions on necessary infrastructure around this park, that they do not own.

That's not what my calculations are showing.

Sosa and Montgomery might be fighting for the Sox HR lead by the end of the season if Robert keeps having trouble finding his HR swing.

JFC Colson.

There have been a number of documented reports over the decades that show the "jobs created" part of stadiums is a myth. it is short lived for the most part. How accurate those studies are, I don't know but there have been a number of them. It was even written about in the book, "The Big Show" by Dan Patrick and Keith Olbermann.

Look, the old Sox would have held onto dysfunctioning players until death do they part. If the Sox lose the deal, I wouldn’t hate the thinking. Players that aren’t producing, lets have higher standards and move on. Most of time it’s gonna be the right move

Those sidearm throws aren’t working, they all wind up on the 3B side of second.

Teel’s throwing is rough

Braden is tired from filling out all of those change of address forms and shaking hands with new teammates.

You are correct, Minoso and Sievers both had a very good 1960 but that was Minoso’s last good year, both Minnie and Sievers were traded after the 1961 season. Freese had a decent 1960 but was a horrible 3rd baseman and was traded after the season for Juan Pizarro who gave the Sox some good years, the joke about Freese was that the fans sitting in the low boxes beyond first baseman were in grave danger from all his bad throws and they needed to wear batting helmets. I liked Barry Latman and after he was traded for Herb Score went on to have a mediocre career finishing with a career losing record but he might have done better with the Sox and getting Score was a wishing and hoping trade as Score was never the same pitcher after getting hit in the head by a line drive off the bat of Gil McDougald in 1957.

This has nothing to do with Chicago's numbers. I have no idea if they are accurate or not. ... BUT in D.C. did you see the officials were saying via numbers crime is down like 50 percent and lowest since the 1960s or something. Then somebody proved the numbers released were fake news. What a world but we don't know who to believe any more.

There are a lot of things stupid and unnecessary about sports, Lip. Taxes being used to pay for stadiums of billionaires is one of them but it's the norm. So you gotta do it. These salaries to play a kid's game also are stupid and unnecessary. I just wonder at what point fans stop going. Not sure where they get all the money to drive to games, park, eat, drink and watch the games. ... The new thing in college sports is having to pay a rental fee just to have your season ticket seat. The cost of the seat is in addition to how much you have to pay lump sum just to have right to the seat.

Too many bad owners in MLB. If we Sox fans think we have it bad with Jerry, I can't imagine being a Pirates fan since their terrible team owner is only in his early 60s and could be around for another quarter century or more. And it's hard for me to feel sorry for Manfred crying about how bad it is for the owners when I read this: During one of the Pirates’ “sell” chants this season, the team broadcast cut the crowd noise until the chanting ceased. And the A’s “reverse boycott” game has been scrubbed from MLB.TV’s June 2023 archives.

I'm not. I think its criminally stupid for state/county/city to bail out and help billionaires. The Bears and the Sox already got one stadium built on someone else's dime. I ask again when does the BS stop?

It's the mark of a bad team. When they score runs they can't pitch, when they pitch well they can't score. And they have issues on defense and with fundamentals constantly. Here's a mind blower, tonight was the 17th time the Sox lost a game despite holding an opponent to three runs or less. That's wasting some pretty good pitching at times.

I mean…they are. Even when he isn’t hitting he is still giving quality at bats and making the pitcher work.

We’re missing Vargas’s bat… 🤣🤣🤣

You think it's the Bears job to widen 53? You can't be this stupid.

Caiaphas sounds like a figure from the Bible's Old Testament.

There is A LOT of that happening. I don't think people understand that so much economic development money is out there specifically for attracting and maintaining businesses. Literally in any town of an OK size, there are redevelopment and economic growth boards which use these tax dollars as direct subsidies for business retention and recruitment. There were companies lining up to pay Amazon to move. NYC put a $3.5 BILLION dollar package to get the HQ2, in just TIF money. That company is worth over a TRILLION in market cap.

It isn't fake news and your perspective is fair. I think people here hand-wave away the crime simply because 'murders' are down; well murders aren't the only crime. The CTA is a mess since COVID. You don't really want to be in the Loop after dark anymore. The schools are somehow getting worse. Cops are playing pranks on regular people and don't bother to follow the rules of the road. There's no accountability for anyone in a position of power, public or private. I'm skeptical about raising a family here...where would the kids go to school, I can't afford private school, and could they play outside after dark? If my kid is anything like me, he'll be too dumb for a magnet school. This is to say, I think we're at our worst period since I've been alive -- which is all the more reason to think about how the locals can improve this place. The North Side is in pretty good shape, development in the Loop is booming, but we need to improve the rest of the city. The only thing the City can think to do is open up a grocery story or a fast food joint and say they've "created jobs". They're minimum wage jobs that you can't support a family on. I'd probably sell drugs too if the only other option was to work at Chipotle.

Yes, it is absolutely obtuse for you to be like “wow the bears want the city and state to upgrade the surrounding streets and trainstops for the increased business and traffic, that is totally laughable because they haven’t won a lot of games but also are worth 8.8 billion dollars hahahaa they can f*** themselves they should pay for it themselves” it’s amazing that you interview all these people and write all these books and still can manage to not understand the process here. They just said they aren’t asking the state for money for the stadium, THAT WAS THE BIG DEAL FOR THE LAST YEAR, THEY WANTED STATE MONEY FOR THE STADIUM.

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Ok well if you want to be obtuse about it, that’s entirely up to you

That's a technicality. Bottom line a team worth over eight billion dollars which has been an NFL joke for decades is going to ask the state/city for infrastructure support for their project. I'd tell them to go f#$% themselves.

Why the hell is the ball not standardized! All the baseballs should come off the same specs at every level of pro ball.