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That’s correct, but occasionally he can nut one out.

You can't compare these two. Chris Widger was "The Widge" and nobody beat him. McGuire on the other hand has already beat himself.

This tweet is pretty good…

Mehdroth is a nobody.

Maybe Getz trades Lee to Pittsburgh for Clevinger. This time could be the charm.

What are you talking about? They preferred one guy to be the 2nd-3rd catcher on the team over another guy. That's it. Its so insignificant. Who is "overselling" anyone on this move? Is this a bit? Explain how this has anything to do with LF. They chose a catcher making $1.2 over a catcher making $800k. That's a difference of $400k, which is half of the league minimum. AND that assumes they aren't recouping some of that money by trading Lee for cash considerations. AND that assumes they don't trade McGuire eventually and have to pay his entire salary. What impact does that have on LF? What were they going to do with that additional $0-$400,000 to fix LF? You think JR was cool with dropping Benintendi's $30+ million dollars before they signed McGuire and this changed it? Are you delusional?

And the putrid looking rotation is going to put a kibosh on any chance of .500 happening.

Is this an actual situation you're referring to, or are you rehashing a weeks old argument with somebody on this board? Did Getz give a teary-eyed interview where he said they can't cut Benintendi because they can't afford a replacement, or did somebody here just toss that out in a back and forth? You seem to take some off-hand excuse from one of the commenters, then automatically assign it to the Front Office as their creed.

Because its 2026 and its not a lot of money. He's the 9th highest paid player on the team because they are rebuilding and a large portion of the team is still making league minimum, not because $1.2 million dollars is a lot of money in MLB terms. According to your thinking, if a team (hypothetically) had 22 very good starting caliber pre-arb players, it would be bad to spend a million dollars to sign a backup because that player would be a top 5 salary on the team. That's not how it works in real life.

Reese is now the 9th highest paid player on the team. How can you say they're not investing anything?

I believe this isn't allowed, I think @Y2Jimmy0 discussed this on futuresox YouTube (might be getting my Sox social media confused) Why? He would be retuned to the Red Sox if he doesn’t make the team and then you figure he can be the PTBNL that our Sox select and come back to us. I'm lost on the Benintendi thing. He's on the team because the owner doesn't like paying people to go away. He's not relevant at all in this discussion. They don't like Lee and don't want him catching regardless of what anyone says publicly. I wasn't expecting him to be rostered until Teel was injured. I'm surprised by the reaction to the move. Venable knows and likes McGuire. McKinven clearly trusts him more as well. We'll see if they're correct.

Lee stinks, don't get it twisted. So does Reese. I just don't understand why you give a guy a guarantee 1.3 million to come and catch for four weeks. The value add there for a back-up catcher in the first month of the season is basically zero. Go spend that money somewhere else.

Agree. He looked overmatched at times in the wbc. He is a gamer but he has got to prove he can hit, not just get hit. He needs reps ,not a bench role.

Neither, just feeling sick apparently

And that none of these moves can actually be wrong. The usual suspects carrying the usual water. A week ago I got told that they couldn't afford the million dollars to replace Benny on the roster. Now this. New GM, same cheap Jerry.

They already had Lee who is significantly younger and has had a much better spring. I just don’t understand why they would push him to the side to give McGuire a guaranteed contract. That said, ideally neither will play that much so it doesn’t really matter.

Its less about the who, and more about the why. An organization that cried over a similar amount it would take to replace Beni as the reason to keep him, just goes out and wastes the same amount for something they ALREADY had a solution for.

Yeah the reaction has been puzzling for sure

I really liked masturbating but I thought Korey Lee was doing alrigiht.

I recall McGuire being mainly all glove and not really good with his stick.

Trading any young prospect for AAA fodder like Julks is always a bad move. Julks is a guy you sign to a minor league contract or claim off waivers for free, not give up any level of talent for. It was a bad trade. Almost as bad as Fajardo for Booser.

Jerry has long had an antagonistic relationship with the fans other than the people in the luxury suites. He runs the team in a very insular way. He's more interested in proving his critics (the fans, the media) wrong than what is in the fans' interest. Needless to say, buying the Sox for somewhere close to $2B is a huge investment for Ishbia and in all likelihood it's a team that he'll own for decades. Surely he knows what isn't working with the franchise both on and off the field. If he thought the current ballpark situation was "just fine", he wouldn't be buying up a huge tract of land next to the 78.

Does he know there’s no parking lot in the new stadium plans?

March 23, 1989 - The Sox traded Kenny Williams (who would eventually become the club’s G.M. and vice president) to Detroit for pitcher Eric King. Williams never achieved any measure of consistency in the big leagues. He played three years in Chicago and his best year was 1987. He had 11 home runs, 50 RBI’s and stole 21 bases, batting .281. King at least, had two solid years with the Sox including a spectacular 1990 campaign going 12-4 with a 3.25 ERA with two shutouts and 151 innings pitched, for the “Doin’ the Little Things” White Sox who’d shock baseball by compiling 94 wins in 1990.

I do t think it’s any more complicated than our pitchers don’t like pitching to him. And maybe I missed something, but nobody was holding a spot for Romo. He was DFA’d like two months ago.

Still not understanding how 1.2 million for 4 weeks isn't a lot to a cheap ass organization. My guy, no one is high fiving anyone over a Reese McGuire signing. My goodness you have some crazy takes.

They are paying Andrew Benintendi the same amount of money over the next two years, on the exact same schedule, whether they cut him today, tomorrow, or run his contract completely out with his corpse in LF. Pretending we are doing this move at C because we might be competitive in 2026, and then running Benny out there in LF is completely contradictory. There were literally lectures about the White Sox not being able to afford to replace him, complete with BS about budgets and everything else, yet this move happens and what would have had a MUCH bigger impact on the quality of the roster just rots on the vine for essentially the same cost. You will have to excuse me if I don't just gobble up the company line here. And when everyone gets on about how people react to the teams moves, this is EXACTLY why. Frankly it is insulting to pretend otherwise.

Meh, Hagen Smith will be better. No question…

If this team is signing him thinking they are "challenging .500" they are off by about 15-20 games. There isn't any world we go 81-81 this year. 75 and 87 sure, but 81-81 simply is not happening with this pitching staff. It would take tremendous break outs from the young players and health just to get to 75, and we'd all be thrilled I'd imagine.

How many 16 inch softball championships does McGuire have under his belt? Zero. Checkmate the Widge.

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lmfao this team just tries to not win games I swear to god

Apparently, somebody here argued they can't cut Benintendi because the Sox can't afford a replacement, and we cannot move on until he gets a victory lap out of that. Maybe he could just DM that guy with a "LoL, told you so", and be done with it.

lol.... why are you trying to pretend Benintendi is on the team because they are paying Reese McGuire 1.5x the league minimum?

Then you shouldn't be on a baseball message board telling everyone how great a move is if you don't understand how a 40 man roster works.

You're not using "irony" correctly. Chris Getz isn't being tasked with rostering players who are better than their 2005 counterparts. His goal is to pick the best players available for the 2026 team. The team feels like McGuire is an upgrade from Lee. It seems to me that Venable wants to go with 3 catchers, originally, to not lose the DH in case of substitution, but in reality, to not rush Teel, or to ease him in behind the plate once he's back. Depending on how that arrangement works, that could get them to Memorial Day, 2 months. All told, McGuire could start up to 15-20 games. If this team thinks they can challenge .500, then surely, they are in the divisional race. Every win matters, and improving from a catcher they clearly don't like to one that some coaches have a working relationship with, and the team does like makes a difference. $1.2 million is nothing for payroll. I guess it's fun for people looking for some reason to indict this front office for every single move to cry about paying a player a guaranteed $450K above the minimum. That amount is negligible, and they'll probably be able to offload more than half of it once they're satisfied that Teel is at full speed. Or not, in which case, nobody cares. The funny part is that you actually agree that a backup catcher isn't an integral part of a roster that must contribute towards the next future championship, which was my point.

He's mocking the White Sox for being cheap, not making an actual quantitative statement on the quality of the player based on his salary.

Would have rather hired three more Pacific Rim scounts at 400k each then throw this money at a backup catcher. Really doesn't seem a great way to spend limited resources. But this is the Sox. Even when they make a few good moves the inevitable head scratcher is never too far down the road.

I am not following. What does the salary of the backup catcher on a team from 21 years ago have to do with any of this? 1.2 million dollars is not a big amount in 2026. They aren't "investing" anything.

Crazy to look at Roch's game log and then hear people acting like he's in a slump

Maybe take a chance - put Antonacci on the roster and let Mead go. Antonacci has that "gamer" quality that doesn't show up in the stats, but adds value to the team.

If Lebron keeps the strikeouts down in SEC play, I don't know how you don't take a deep look. Vahn Lackey been flying up draft boards as well.

I feel like we can start adding up these bad, small deals in aggregate and they'd be enough to toss out Benintendi.

I tend to agree with you. However, Lip posted an article that said Sox management is not a fan of Lee’s defense and that McGuire’s lefty bat better complements Quero’s strong-side righty bat.

Well, its a real head scratcher, but when all the angst is over? McQuire or Lee? Does it really matter?

Well, there's at least the McGuire jokes in the gamethreads to look forward to.

Spanky is back.

I think people take spring training stats way too seriously both bad and good. But obviously would prefer to have them good. He will probably be what he has always been.