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Such an excellent article. I agree with everything the guy wrote. I've never been so apathetic about the Sox. As u know I see them going nowhere and it's just disgusting to see that new seating plan. I can honestly say I would love for Jerry to sell the team and the new owner build a new suburban ballpark to a abandon the city like the Bears are doing. I'm getting very close to saying, "Let them move to Vegas." Why do I feel this way? That author of the piece captured my feelings well. The Sox finally have broken me even though I got the WS title in 2005. Hard to belive the goodwill from 05 is lapsed in my mind. Sox have done too many disgusting things for me to love them as I did in the past.

Well, I would be looking forward to the possibility of winning baseball. If Sox could be five over .500 in April and do that again in May 2023, it'd help me a lot. Unfortunately I'm very close to giving up on baseball. As readers of my posts know I am disenchanted with baseball right now. I won't go thru all the reasons but baseball is not fun anymore. My main beef is there are now two games within a game, both two hours long. The starting pitcher's game which lasts 4 to 5 innings. Then the parade of relievers game. To have a good team u need to win both games within a game. Sox aren't equipped to win both halves consistently. But what am I looking forward to? Last year it was following Jose's at bats more than the team. Too many injuries for my tastes. Frankly if this board didn't exist I'd probably stop following baseball completely. I still have my MLB subscription and still watched my share of innings (usually 7 til 9) a year ago. But right now I can honestly say I hate baseball. Hope I get over it.

No offense to our new manager but he has a lot to prove considering KCR didn't hire him.

There's a different vibe now, almost like the organization has taken one too many punches and has gone from an exuberant Muhammad Ali to a fat Jerry Quarry. There's a slight chance the new manager could revitalize things but under Tony's direction combined with deflating injuries (whose fault are those? players or trainers or bad luck?) and front office suits who have made a bunch of insignificant moves the past couple years, this organization is .500 at best more likely .five to eight under .500. Since canning players friendly manager Ricky, it's been all downhill since. "These kids can play" under RR turned into "we're zombies and there's nothing you fans can do about it. Have a 10 dollar beer and enjoy our 4 hour games."

There is no window except one toward mediocrity. Sox proved they realize they are blah middle of the road with their choice as manager and by getting rid of their best hitter. Folks, Pedro is not going to lead us to the division title. Sox lineup is relying on oft-injured guys like Tim, Eloy, Robert, plus Vaughn, Moncada et. all. The window is slammed shut. Only 'special players' are Cease and Liam. This team blows, folks.

Going straight by "odds" and "analytics" all these signings are crazy. 12 years? Anything can happen in 12 years but one this is for sure, a lot of money will be wasted on this deal and all deals like this deal. It's insane but I guess TV contracts and 30 dollar beers and 200 dollar parking will easily pay for it. How can teams afford to throw away money like this?

I'm alarmed that everybody is saying Benni has a weak arm. It's not like he's gonna hit 35 home runs. You don't really want a guy with no power combined with no arm playing LF.

So a guy who does not hit for power at all (look at his career stats for gosh sakes) with a bad arm. Hmmm sounds like an acquisition a bad team would make. We shall see. Theoretically he should help the top of the order still if he continues to get on base a lot, but ... Sox certainly have never valued defense.

Beni is OK. I asked a big Royals fan at church Sunday if I will love Beni or hate him? He said 'Just don't expect him to hit for power.' Not making it up. Generally fans liked him but ...

Ugh. Happy? I'm sad. ... I promise it's my last comment on the subject as I know my passion is making me repetitive. You have to understand how sad I am over this. Anyhow ... I'll stop now. Bye Jose.

Geez. Through this whole ugly tank/rebuild, the Sox were suppoed to be a 'winner." How soon we forget or let Jerry/Hahn off the hook. They've made some bad moves including having a blah pitching staff and weird lineup for The Cell.

Benny cannot hit for power. Or does not hit for power. Benni has a lot to prove in Chicago. Some say he's 'just another guy.' My lineup with Jose and Benni is much more productive. It uses what Benni can do. it speaks for itself.

As much as I respect Tony's career he was the wrong man for this team. Hopefully Vaughn can emerge and hopefully they figure out a way to piece together a division winning pitching staff. So many question marks about the pitching to go with what I've said bout the lineup.

Now that we got Benintendi, can u imagine if we still had Jose? Lineup: Timmy, Benny, Robert, Abreu, Yoan, Yasmani (not a bad six-some). Now we go with Timmy, Benny, Robert, Vaughn, Yoan, Sheets, Yasmani (lot of pressure on Vaughn and Sheets this season when it didn't have to be that way. Jose woulda been a huge veteran bat. Cmon Vaughn/Sheets have a nice offseason and show continued improvement and we might have a decent lineup! If we could keep our cool and temper I personally think it'd be nice of some of you to explain to me how my lineup with Abreu wouldn't be kick-butt this season compared to the alternative!! Makes no sense except for Jerry's pocketbook. We also need some leadership and Timmy better fill that void. You gotta want to win. Jose did. Cmon Timmy it's your team!!

He's a good signing. But please study his stats a bit before doing handstands. He does not hit for power, just doesn't. He had a good BA with the Royals last season, not with NYY. Whatever ... he's better than our signings of the past and I don't want to be a jerk, but he's not all that. He's OK though and I'll take it. Welcome Bennie.

I won't go on a tangent. I'll just say I love his ability, his contributions to the Sox and am deeply disappointed he's now with the Stros. I do think the White Sox will miss him. Would be nice to make a splash and acquire somebody of note after losing him. Can't see how the Sox plan on selling this team w/out a stud. That said ... thanks Jose for the memories.

If Sox are planning on WS they better keep guys like Jose around.

Look at these contracts and some of u balked at what was gonna be reasonable dollars for my guy, Abreu. Xander is 30, folks. That means he goes til 41. Jose is 36 in late Jan. Folks, u need players like Jose A with HISTORY to win anything of note. Me thinks "some" Sox fans are way too engrossed in analytics. If not how do u justify them paying Xander thru age 41 season?

Things change so quickly. Sox during the tank job/rebuild were acquiring pieces that presumably set a helluva great set of core players and Sox were fashionable again and thought highly of. Now they get rid of a stud like Abreu who is not heartbroken at all leaving this mess and guys like TA may be happy to get out as well. Now the Sox are a shambles as u said and pretty much a dull laughingstock with so so many holes on the roster to fill before this team can compete for anything. Tony did set the tone for the zombielike play and non urgent play on a daily basis. However, Hahn and Kenny built this monstrocity of a roster. The team has no strengths (possible strength is starting pitching which means nothing in the era of five innings and shower time) and has dumped the best player on the team by far. As it turned out RR should still be the manager. The front office fell for the cliche he is good in helping young teams rebuild but can't win in the playoffs. Stupid. The new Tony had no chance of even getting to the playoffs much less win there. Oh boy the Sox stink. Maybe new manager has a clue.

You can win and not spend 360 mill on one player. Now the Sox can't cause they are run by buffoons, but some teams can win and spend little.

Sox should have never parted ways with Dombroski in the organization. We'd have had a few more titles by now and not have to put up with this Hahn tank job/rebuild that failed. To not hire the best medical training staff also is inexcusable. Sox have become a laughingstock in the Hahn era.

Hilarious how many Sox fans deep down seem to enjoy a possible second tank job/rebuild. A lot of the players we got to win us some pennants in the past tank job have been here long enough we see their warts. I could go through the list but your Moncadas, Eloys, Roberts, some of the pitchers, even Timmys (defense) have shown warts. There's no excuse for keeping Hahn around and KW. They have failed (except for magical 2005) and it's time to clean house. This team has about a 2 percent chance of reaching the WS next season which means the tank job was an utter failure. Let's just start talk of trading everybody.

The ball appeared dead last year. None of the Sox were hitting the long ball. I personally think our team right now is trash. I'd say last place or only ahead of the Royals. This team blows. Sub par bullpen; average staters (if evereybody's healthy); and pathetic every day lineup. It just is. It's a rotten lineup.

I wouldn't say he's clearly in decline but I appreciate your reasoning and your post.