Everything posted by greg775
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What the Sox business model has done
Listen to this and tell me you still hate Ozzie. Cmon. The guy is a lovable chatterbox who I'd love to see come back and manage the team. He's worth the gamble. Just tell him look, ONE time you comment on something besides baseball you are GONE. Set the parameters.
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Will "core" players be traded before Spring Training?
So many guys had bad seasons it'll be tough to deal them. Please get rid of Grandal and Moncada and Pollock and start from there. Maybe try to build up a team strength in one area. That area should be pitching. Cease is a legitimate star to top a rotation. Build a strong starting rotation, make sure you have two reliable relievers on the team to go with a closer. I'd say improve all facets of the team but that'll be impossible to do in one offseason. Hitting, defense and pitching are all laughable. But Sox allegedly have a few good pitchers for a pitching coach to work with: Cease, Giolito, Kopech, Liam and I guess Lopez. Rehire Coop to work with those five pitchers and find next year's Cueto and some other guys. Put all the FO efforts on pitching to try to get back to respectability. Too many holes to work on everything. Building a lights out rotation and bullpen would give the fans SOMETHING to get enthused about again. Going into ST with the same guys pretty much assures a rotten April unless the new manager is a miracle worker. p.s. I can understand people wanting to let Abreu go. It just seems like a failed argument when he was one of the only reasons to go to a game this year. Kind of a "fan" thing to want to get rid of the team's most reliable player, though I understand it's nothing personal. Just seems weird to clamor to get rid of the one guy who wanted to win more than others and actually hit .300 in the year of the decrepit batting averages.
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9/28 Sox twins nobody care thread
For the life of me I can't figure out why the Sox are playing big leaguers this last week and a half. Just shut down this wretched team and let the minor leaguers play and lose instead of these quitters.
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Who is buying/renewing tix for 2023?
Man, you are a great fan to buy tickets with no guarantee all the lousy hitters/pitchers will be gone. Good for u. You must love being in a MLB ballpark. It is a happy space by nature.
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2022 season was insane bad luck
Nah. What's going to change injury wise? The bottom line is Sox defense is below average (I'm being kind). Sox pitching is WAY below acceptable. And Sox have half a lineup of not automatic outs, but close to it. It's not going to magically improve. Grandal, Pollock, Harrison, Leury, Moncada cannot hit. We have no real run producers (RBI men) now that Jose is older (I don't count Eloy and Robert cause of injuries). Frankly unless Vaughn and Sheets turn into true superstars the team is WAY below .500 next year. Pitching really concerns me. Sox bullpen cannot cover 4 innings a night. Starters are mediocre (Cease is very good).
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Embarrassing
Why can't they just promote 5-6 AAA guys and let them get sosme at bats in the bigs? There's simply no reason to give these underachievers any more at bats this season.
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White Sox @ Twins: 640CT
Can you believe how bad this team is? This losing streak assures a sub .500 record. Has to be one of the worst seasons of Reinsdorf's ownership. And the future? This is the first time (not counting the ridiculous tank years) in a long time the team has had this bad a team and this bad an outlook for the future.
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Embarrassing
What's funny is even with Jerry owning the team all these years and employing so many awful advance scouts and talent evaluators, the Sox thru the years have not been an embarrassment til just recently during the Tony era. Weird how we bring in the old Hall of Famer who should be our best manager and he's by far the worst. If I had to describe the Sox now I'd scout them and say: "The Chicago White Sox are a team with several everyday players who look like thoroughbreds in uniform. Tall, rangy bodies who look like they can crush the ball but in reality are injury prone young players who project to be above average if they can stay on the field. ... The White Sox also have a pitching staff that yearly is severely overrated both in starters and bullpen guys. Finally the Sox appear to be a lethargic team with a manager whose low key approach doesn;'t' seem to inspire the younger players at all. In conclusion this team appears to be a C-minus on a grade scale with the potential in its current situation to improve to a B-minus at best."
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Mark Gonzales wonders what is next?...
Those who hate me on this board won't have me around anymore if they do another rebuild. That's when I sadly quit baseball. If they start trying to lose again, I'm done with the sport.
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Mark Gonzales wonders what is next?...
Folks should be fired for signing Grandal. Folks should be fired for acquiring Moncada. Folks should be fired for acquiring Keuchel and Kelly and many other lousy pitchers on the roster. Also folks should be fired for signing Pollock and Harrison. Horrible.
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Embarrassing
This current stretch is rock bottom. Sox suddenly have a horrific nucleus for next season. There should be some sort of rebuild plan coming that does not involve tanking for 5 years and the draft. First step is to attempt to get rid of the many lousy players on this team so there's some money to spend, I know ... lol, good luck with that. If they could somehow trade Moncada and Grandal that'd be a nice start. Maybe on a cold, sleety January evening some dumb GM would trade for those 2.
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Embarrassing
Good for the Guardians. Teams that win the Central Division actually get fired up to play Central Division teams. Sox could never handle the unbalanced schedule. They have been owned by the Central teams in the 19-game series each season. And oh goodie, more Central games coming up vs. Minnie. This unbalanced schedule has ruined baseball in my opinion. Sickening to play these same teams over and over. Sox players get paid good money though to play in these boring games. They get an F for their performance vs. The Central. Tony shiould be embbarrassed at his part in all this too.
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Give Your 2022 Sox a Slogan
First time I've ever wanted a season to end. Not hyperbole. This team, combined with playing in the worst era in baseball history regarding rules of the game, stupid playoff formats, dead ball one year live ball the next, tanking b.s., is just clamoring for the offseason. Thus the slogan: Sox baseball: "We look good in the winter after a few moves; we reek from April til October."
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The White Sox cannot be fixed by next season
You said it. Sox have no chance now for the first time in a while. Not counting the years when they were trying to lose, this is the bleakest future for the franchise in a long time. I don't even know what they can do. I would think if they can stay a .500 team that in itself would be a miracle. Play .500 and hope some guys emerge as stars like AV.
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9/24/22 Tigers @ White Sox 6:10 PM CDT
My goodness. The White Sox cannot beat Central Division teams. Embarrassing.
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9/23 Game Thread Detroit Tigers @ Chicago White Sox 7:10 PM
I've watched less this year than any year in my life, but still usually catch a few innings of every game and definitely open the box score, mainly to see if Jose is still around .310. Hahn needs to return to building a team that fits GRate Field. It's still a good home run park even with the dead ball. On another note, I remember in 2005 thinking how great it's going to be to dominate the division for years to come with Ozzie at the helm leading the way. I never ever though anything but Ozzie being the Sox Tom Lasorda and the Sox ruling the division like the Braves did theirs that long stretch under Cox. Unfortunately Oz imploded cause his ego grew even bigger and bigger and he couldn't shut up to the press and worship his kids instead of telling them to shut up. I would have never thought the Sox would not win another title after 05. Never. Now the club is a total mess. It needs so much you'd have to call what it needs a "rebuild." Ugh I hate to do that.
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9/23 Game Thread Detroit Tigers @ Chicago White Sox 7:10 PM
I'm surprised u've given up on him. I kinda feel like he's the Sox one true prospect. I'm not as high on Eloy any more. Robert is so disappointing with injuries, too.
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9/23 Game Thread Detroit Tigers @ Chicago White Sox 7:10 PM
Is there any chance AV is young enuf to improve defensively? He's had a pretty dandy year for a 24-year old. Isn't there a slight chance if he works on the lift and pull thing he could hit 40-50 HRs a year (especially the years there's a live ball)?
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9/23 Game Thread Detroit Tigers @ Chicago White Sox 7:10 PM
Just tuned in. Wonder if Jerry R cares enough to make wholesale changes. This team not only blows chunks but is unlikeable.
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Your GM & Manager 2023 Preference
If Bennetti loves baseball he'd be dumb to leave. Once you get named to these gigs, teams keep you forever. So what if he could do college football, basketball. There aren't any nfl openings on the big networks are there? He's young. He should do the Sox gig until something huge huge comes along. He's got to be making great money and these side gigs must pay a ton. How bout grab Rob Thompson from the Phils as manager. Worked in Yankee system forever. Knows winning. Pay him. Bring back dave dombroski as GM. That's all.
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How did every team misjudge Kwan and Madrigal so badly?
By the way, is Madrigal going to start for the cubs again next year? Is he still a prospect or a bust?
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Talent or Desire?
I think it's lack of talent. Also poor coaching and poor training. Our hitters are horrible and obviously the hitting coach has either a bad philosophy of hitting or is just incompetent. Pitchers ... it's also talent. Cueto and Cease and Liam are pretty good the rest overrated. Sox have so many holes I'm just shocked they are over .500.
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Illinois High School Football Thread
How bad is Rice gonna lose to Loyola, MC and Marist? Badly? Like blowout bad? Don't think our alums who must have liked the Badke era will be pleased with new coach's results. Blowouts have been a thing of the past for the most part the past 5 or more years.
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9/22 Sox vs. Guardians 7:10PM CT
Not sure they are quitters. They just are no good. Hitters have terrible approach and lacked power this year. Defense they just don't have the ability. And the pitchers are five inning wonders. Big deal. Relievers are minor league quality for the most part. Sad.
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9/22 Sox vs. Guardians 7:10PM CT
Seven hits. One big LOL. Nobody with more than one hit on the team tonite. Cleveland owning the Sox in maybe the most embarrassing series of the season. Disgusting. Just bring up AAA orAA players and give them a few at bats at this point.