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Without getting political, this (to me) is one of the biggest stories in Chicago sports history and (at least I) you don't hear much about it. Again I don't want to force my political views out here (everybody who reads my comments know I'm not a fan of my city anymore cause of my perception of leadership at top) but it seems to me there's not nuff outrage that a huge city like Chicago is losing its NFL team to a place called Arlington Heights. To me it's a collosal loss for the city, but again, maybe that's just me. I'd think there'd be outrage for a lot of people regarding this situation. Peace out as always and may debris from a balloon never fall your way.

Any news on the Bears? Are they leaving for Arlington or staying put? Are they gonna build the palace the honorable Lightfoot was proposing or splittsville to suburbia?

Is this guy going to be allowed to go to spring training or have the Sox put him on paid leave? Seems to me the Sox haven't done squat to improve the roster this offseason. You don't get better by subtraction of a decent player (Abreu) and adding zip.

I don't understand why anybody would buy season tix when you can get good seats on the secondary market. If the team is any good just get tix on the internet sites that sell 'em. April and May you are dealing with cold weather. Summer time storms hit a lot. So why tie yourself into games that are played in absurd conditions?

White Sox selling slogan to fans appears to be: "Admit it, we've had worse teams than this in your lifetime. See you at G-Rate Field in April of 2023."

I also was thinking in retirement it'd be fun to go to every single MLB game I guess if I lived here it'd have to be the Royals. I'd never move back to Chicago now cause of what I perceive as it being unsafe (not that here is that safe). Anyhow I agree with your longer post. Sad we have to feel this way. My question is ... what would it cost me for 2 season tickets to Sox 15 rows up from third base or catcher and parking? How much jack does that cost nowadays? thanx.

It's up to baseball commish to make the call. Probably should suspend him without pay (will players assn. allow that though?) til the court case if there is one. Unless there's a video the legal process prolly has to play out before he's permanently kicked out of baseball, right? I don't pretend to be a legal mastermind so sorry if I'm way off base. Just my thoughts.

Yeah he's a good player. Bring him over or Massey. Naperville vs. Bro Rice.

I agree with southsider. I don't give him the benefit of the doubt in any way but I hope the true facts are unearthed and justice is served.

Man this is scary stuff. No way this guy will play baseball again. But it will be the commish who has to suspend him, right, in conjunction with the players' association? Sox are hamstrung by the innocent until proven guilty mantra right? I'm sure the MLB players association will demand results of investigation before he's suspended. Or am I clueless on this? I don't want it to seem like I'm some Sox fanatic that wants him to pitch for the Sox if he did this stuff. I'm just wondering how the suspension works. Best wishes to all involved. If he abused people I pray they are OK physically and mentally. If he didn't do anything wrong I pray he's exonerated.

I'd like to reacquire Madrigal. It'd remind me of the good ol days when Sox were considered can't miss playoff team/likely WS winner in coming years. Might reverse the bad karma.

The idea of Eloy in RF is ludicrous. I mean cmon. Now that we showed Jose the door just put Eloy at DH every single game or add him to the 1B brigade for a game a week as a reward for staying healthy. If he doesn't like it he can leave via free agency when it's time. If the Sox are serious about him in the OF then in the offseason they'd pay Jermaine Dye or somebody to work out with Eloy one month straight in Arizona in the OF and see if there's any chance he could play out there. Can u imagine Eloy in RF? It will be comical.

If a rebuild means a tank job, I hope the Sox just move to Vegas. I'll root for the uniform in Vegas but not be a zealot. Trying to lose games during a tank job is against what the spirit of sports is all about.

I'm assuming guys can pitch 8-9 innings so I will list NOBODY from the current era. My rotation: Seaver (in his prime; he still was pretty damn good with the Sox); Buehrle, McDowell in his prime and Gary Peters. Honorable mention: Hoyt of that one special season and Wood (the guy once started both ends of a DH). Early Wynn and Pierce and Lyons and those old guys can be honorary pitching coaches. I realize they might be the best of the bunch for all I know.

Great replies for the most part. It will take something big early to get most of us excited I'm thinking. That would be a heckuva first six weeks OR a sign our players can start competing better vs. the Central Division. I hate those losses the most. It's deflating when Sox get boatraced by Minnie, KC, Det and Cleveland. ugh.

Some of the fans on this board are smart fans of all baseball teams and statistical probabilities merged in with old fashioned traits of teams such as enthusiasm, want-to, or our fave 'will to win.' So I am asking ... do any of you have a strong feeling (keeping fandom out of it) the Sox "could" be a surprise team this year? A team in which all the major rebuild pieces excel and the roster clicks to where the Sox could dominate the Central and make SERIOUS noise in the playoffs? I'm so negative about the team now I'm not a good one to measure the team's "possible" upside. But some of you understand trends of teams, etc. So are ANY of you thinking Sox could be THE surprise team of baseball this year and have the bodies to win, win, win?? Any reason for hope it clicks and Sox check in and complete the rebuild deal?? Thanks. Notice I have interjected no opinion on the team's strengths and weaknesses. I'm just all ears, listening, reading ...

Looks like the Sox got rid of Jose and have added very little to the roster. Their scouts must be super high on Burger, Eloy, Robert, Colas, Vaughn and Sheets. Screams bad defense to me. And Sox must be high on their bullpen arms. I know we added one starter I think? My point? Boring offseason and the powers that be are showing faith in the rebuild core exploding on the scene this year?? How anybody could buy season tickets is beyond me unless they have a lot of money and like to have something to do 80 days a year.

I was just kidding bout Naha.

I love Benetti and Stone. I feel in this day and age they are as 'honest' as a duo can be that works for the team. Yeah I guess technically they are housemen but I do think Stone and Benetti are more critical of the team or at least buffoonish plays of the team than most duos. True Stoney didn't second guess Tony much or blast the training staff for all the injuries and point out how this team appeared to sleepwalk at times and also was poorly constructed. But perhaps Stoney doesn't share those opinions that I feel were pretty obvious. This team was a trainwreck in spite of the .500 record.

Karkovice waited a long time to get the starter's job at catcher. Not a bad player. No Bill Nahorodny but not half bad. ... As far as catchers go, how can a Sox fan not just love Fisk? My gosh he was a ballplayer. He wouldn't quit til he couldn't see/catch the ball anymore. What a stud. Where does Karko live now? Where does Fisk live now?

Eloy will stink in RF obviously. Teach him how to play 1B. It's not that hard. He can split time there with Vaughn and Sheets. And DH with those two guys too.

I wonder if the umps will enforce it. The umps do what the umps want to do.

All makes sense while giving a reasonable outlook/tone about this team/franchise.

I do agree I also hate MLB postseason setup now. As much as I'm hating on baseball only a surprise Sox season will probably prevent me from not caring at all. As it stands I only follow one and a half teams (Sox and KC somewhat since Iive here).

Tray, I pray (rhyme intended) you are right about Sox pitching being good. I happen to think it blows. If it is good, yay! Sox will be a contender if they have the pitching you suggest they do. Hope u are right.