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I think JC Penny was carrying it, and Grandstand is always a good choice.

Mexicans aren't in danger of being tortured by their government upon their return to their homeland. As a matter of a fact, their government provides information for how to make their next try work better. Are you saying we should put people into a situation where we know they could be tortured?

QUOTE(fathom @ Oct 18, 2005 -> 12:28 PM) Not surprised that almost everyone on here struggled to get tickets. Oh well, I'm not going to let this ruin my excitement for the WS. ^^^

Looks like I am locked out too. I have two computers frozen in the search mode since about 12 pm.

Good luck all. Hopefully this is like the ultimate Christmas day for some on here.

I saw this morning the BCBS building now reads "Sox Win" instead of the "Sox Pride" that was on there last week.

RIP Jason... Hopefully Eddy sees this as a wakeup call, and goes and gets the test he needs. Being alive is way more important than basketball.

QUOTE(fathom @ Oct 18, 2005 -> 09:44 AM) During the NLCS game last night, I thought it was quite comical to see the Pepsi commercial where ARod and Vlad are hitting balls to the moon, etc. Wouldn't it be more appropriate if Vlad grounded out to the SS on every swing? Pepsi must really suck during the postseason with those two guys? And Arod wasn't even in the commerical, instead sitting at home watching it on TV...

QUOTE(Dick Allen @ Oct 18, 2005 -> 09:35 AM) Not rude, curious. Seems to me when something has been offered several times, I believe the Sox had a 15 game lead when you could have purchased half a season with an option for all playoff games not just World Series, they might have bit then. I don't blame anyone for taking advantage of this offer. If I didn't have tickets I most likely would as well. I just question the long-term effect it really is going to have on the season ticket base, and I know most of these WS tickets are going to wind up with Eric Soderholm and people of his ilk, looking for $1000 to sit way up behind a post in the corner. Its pretty obvious the rate of return was going to go up as we got further in the playoffs and tickets got more scarce. Sox fans didn't have the expectation of going far in the playoffs based on their past history. Plus they always have had much bigger parks when they have made the playoffs in the past, which meant many more chances at tickets. Right now, this is it for tickets. You are either going to play the lottery with ticketbastard, or you are going to buy season tickets. It has nothing to do with how big of a fan you are, that is the reality for everyone. Plus with the history of Sox fans buying way more tickets when they win versus when they lose, the huge uptick in buying tickets now is a complete expectation vs being a complete surprise. Some people gambled they would be able to get tickets easy, well they lost. It doesn't make them any less of a fan, just human. And like I said, this is a great idea because it helps to give the White Sox revenue where they need it most. The games against the Cubs/Red Sox/Yankees etc were always going to sell out. At very least it gives the Sox a boost in attendance against the Royals/Rays/Tigers etc, where they really need to figure out a way to get people to. The Sox may very well go into the toilet next year, and this bump in revenue might be temporary, but this is also the prudent thing to do to guarentee revenues for 2006. This is a move that has to be made. Someone else made the point, instead of the White Sox selling these World Series tickets for $200 each, they are selling them for thousands of dollars each. The are guarenteeing themselves more revenue for 2006, which means more money for signing and keeping key players both for 2006 and the future past that. That extra money could mean getting a big time #3 hitter, which would help us sustain an elite level of play, which would ensure us increased revenues for years, instead of one year. The Sox would be negligent if they didn't try to do what was best for the team, and getting most people through the turnstiles all year is the first and biggest step towards doing just that.

From Flaxx in a thread about finding tickets for the World Series QUOTE(Harry&JimmyRocked @ Oct 17, 2005 -> 11:26 PM) does anyone recommend any good ticket brokers? i'm trying for tickets tomorrow but chances are that i wont get them. so i know people who visit here know alot of useful information. Does anyne recommend any good axe murderers? "Good ticket broker" is an oxymoron. They're one of the main reasons us ham-and-eggers are coming up empty on playoff tickets right now.

I am not even going to waste the hit of clicking that link, and no one else should either. If people really feel that badly about Kotex-boy, all talking about him and going to his articles does is keep him employed. Quit reading his crap and he gets fired. Its that easy.

QUOTE(Dick Allen @ Oct 18, 2005 -> 08:41 AM) They aren't going to get an additional 10,000 from this offer. Maybe 1000. And remember they did offer this near the end of the regular season with tickets to every playoff game and hardly anyone bit. Now everyone is biting, and its all for WS tickets. Many of these people will wind up eating the deposit, and many more will cancel their tickets after 1 season. They are interested in one thing only, and that's WS tickets. Considering the Sox make the WS very rarely, 99% of the new accounts are so short term, it won't have much effect on the budget if any. Wow that has got to be the worst possible scenario that you are outlining there. -You are basically assuming that NO ONE is in this for next year, dispite the Sox being in the World Series this year. -You are all assuming that NONE of these new ticket purchases are Sox fans, or will be used by Sox fans (even if they are just given away, there would still be someone going to the game, and the ticket is paid for) -You are assuming that people are just going to give there money to the Sox for just the opportunity for World Series tickets, and instead of paying the rest for next years tickets, they will just throw that money away. -I guess you are assuming that the 2005 team was a complete aberration and that they will be so bad that there will be no demand for tickets next year, as it won't be worth these new ticketholders time or money to either go to the games, or sell them to other people, instead just eating their deposit money. -You are also assuming that any of these new revenue must be being wasted, as there is nothing about the impact of new players or retaining current players being factored in, with keeping the Sox competitive the playoffs next year, which would go a long way towards fan retention.

QUOTE(Steff @ Oct 18, 2005 -> 08:14 AM) Some comments from Brooks.. Thanks for posting that. He is dead on right about this being a great problem to have. The big problem is that an incredible amount of people are trying for about 5000 seats to each game and there is no way that a ton of diehards are going to be left out in the cold. Plus at the sametime Boyer and company have jobs to do, and they would be flat out negligent if they didn't use this golden ticket to sell more tickets for 2006 and beyond. Yeah it sucks, I want to be at the World Series as badly as anyone else, but you have to recognize that this is prudent planning and smart insight.

QUOTE(Greg Hibbard @ Oct 18, 2005 -> 08:10 AM) 25,000 people in the park for a Tuesday game vs. the Royals? aren't we being a little naive? Sure, the paid attendance will be 25,000, but.... First of all, like I said that was the goal, not that it was going to happen. Read a little bit closer there. Second even if there ARE 5,000/10,000 no shows, that means those people still PAID for tickets, and the point remains that those are revenues regardless of if those seats are empty or not. You are talking about $100-200K for those no shows. Third and the main point of the post before you nitpicked one line out of it was that this is an excellent idea to sell tickets to games that have historically suffered really low ticket sales

The Simpsons have to be at the top of that list, cartoon or not.

QUOTE(Steff @ Oct 18, 2005 -> 07:54 AM) It's not only a great idea.. it's brilliant. Thinking beyond today... wouldn't it be nice to have the problem of getting playoff tickets EVERY October...? That aint going to happen if the Sox don't have the $$ to pay the players they need to make that happen. The key to that is filling the stadium. Season tickets for next year is guaranteed $. Money that goes straight to the pay Paul (or whomever else they go after to make a difference next year) fund. I realize I'm in a different place then most of this board in terms of tickets, and I feel bad for you diehards.. but in terms of the future.. I'm fine with whatever they can do to make this team a dynasty. You took the words right out of my mouth. This is a genius idea by Brooks and company. The whole key to sustaining the momentum of this franchise isn't making sure we have sellouts for the RedSox/Yankees/Cubs, its making sure we have 25,000 people in the park for Tuesday games against the Royals. They have done an excellent job of trying to tie demand to lesser demand to try to sell more tickets. Yeah it sucks that we might be able to be at the World Series, but would you rather have the Sox in the playoffs more often, or good seats to bad games?

Sweet work Goldy

What a series for Konerko. This was a well deserved MVP for Pauly.

QUOTE(Steff @ Oct 17, 2005 -> 02:59 PM) Anyone know if some pro teams suspend season ticket holders for scalping their tickets... ? I've heard it so many times.. but wonder if it's just urban legend. They could. The one thing they will get you for is if the fans who buy your seats do something stupid, the team will hold YOU responsible. You could lose your season tickets if the people who buy them do something stupid.

QUOTE(SS Gload @ Oct 17, 2005 -> 02:22 PM) Maybe a dumb question, but what is our payroll right now? Right about $75 million

QUOTE(Steff @ Oct 17, 2005 -> 12:47 PM) Put down the pipe.. We got a ten million dollar jump in payroll from 2004 to 2005 with a flat attendance number. This year we drew 400,000 more fans, had a 20% increase in ticket prices, an increase in all concession prices and parking, 3 rounds of the playoffs, a new more profitable TV contract, a big bounce in merchandise sales, not to mention our share of the profits from the sale of the Washington Nationals. Plus you are going to see a HUGE jump in season ticket sales for 2006. I don't think I am that crazy. The top figure is definately predicated on Kenny finding someone who is looking to dump some salaries. The free agent market isn't really there, but there is always a market for salary dumps.

Also a footnote. Balloting will stay open until the first pitch of Game One. At that time the balloting will be closed, and the votes will be added up. The new Hall of Famers will be announced Monday morning.

QUOTE(Greg Hibbard @ Oct 17, 2005 -> 12:11 PM) Anyone have an idea of how much extra revenue the White Sox will generate with this Postseason windfall, in terms of ticket sales, concessions, and especially merch sales? I read a ballpark figure in the trib last week that said that they stand to make an additional 15-20 million if they make the World Series, but I think there's SO MUCH MERCH being bought right now that the figure MUST be higher. How high could the payroll be next year? Is the 100 million mark a possibility, or is it something more along the lines of 80-90 million? I have been the high estimate all along, so why stop now. $90 million minimum. I really think $100 million is possible if KW can find the right trading partners. I really get the feeling that Konerko will be resigned, and we will go out and find a high OBP #3 hitter to get on in front of him. We are in an excellent position for the offseason because we can take on salaries, which means we should be able to give up less in players and prospects too. I hate to look past the World Series, but I am really excited about this off season.

QUOTE(Kid Gleason @ Oct 17, 2005 -> 12:09 PM) I used mine on prom night. Problem is it was used to make a balloon animal. Wouldn't have been so bad if it wasn't one of those "spermicidal" ones. Yuck.

QUOTE(Rowand44 @ Oct 17, 2005 -> 12:03 PM) Um..yes you can, you get tickets and give them to me...DUH. *AHEM!!!*