Dick Allen

They put themselves in this situation. Not any of us. Mark DeRosa was making fun of the White Sox on MLBN the other day. How dare he. He wondered why anyone would want to play here. Consecutive 100 + loss seasons in what was supposed to be the peak of your competitive window, with one being the most losses of all time. Be competent, get treated like you’re competent. It’s not overkill to think the probability is the White Sox will f*** up whatever they are doing.

From whom?

According to Steve Stone, any team that consistently is bad, the blame is ultimately ownership. Except the White Sox, He was always a good analyst, although a bit too full of himself. I remember at a Soxfest he wouldn’t sign a ball on the sweet spot saying the guy asking for his autograph was trying to make money. I had no idea you get rich selling Steve Sone signed on the sweet spot baseballs. But now he’s just a schilling for JR.

Something is telling me the White Sox aren’t the organization that will teach him the things he needs to work on. Besides, if he’s taking bad routes, I don’t know how that is fixable. Going after balls is mostly instinct. If it isn’t there, it isn’t there.

Yes, he did it on one of the broadcasts. Seems like a nice guy, but he’s as minor league as the roster.

You would have thunk after the first time someone would have corrected him. Maybe these espn+ broadcasts don’t have a normal crew. For a guy the White Sox think is.a star, espn isn’t exactly giving him primo gigs. I still maintain , before the Sox hired him, he couldn’t name 3 players on the team.

It’s not a high bar,

By a guy who is just a guy and probably did a google search and saw the Sox were giving him a presentation.

No one is giving up what he is giving up to sign with the worst team of all time. It’s ludicrous to even think there is a 50;000 to 1 shot. But I do agree they should take a shot, but it’s like buying mega ball tickets when the pot is over a billion.

Then why not play for the Cubs? If this was Angelstalk.com, we would be laughing at the thought this guy would even consider the White Sox.

If Tadahito Iguchi as a coach closes the deal for this guy, there are 29 teams besides the White Sox that would hire him, and be willing to pay him more than the White Sox pay their manager. If he is playing for pool money, he needs to maximize outside income,. How is that done with the White Sox who won’t be on national TV. Won’t play any meaningful games except for losing for draft position!. .And how long will the team be like this? You would have to think at least until this guy is in his arb years. He will be out of sight and out of mind until the Sox trade him.Why pitch for a team that doesn’t have the ability to maximize your success?

I just don’t see how Iguchi ‘s experience almost 2 decades ago would have or should have any weight. You get to pick your team. This is rare for someone his age. You can pick a team that wins and eventually pays or, or a team that doesn’t and eventually trades you. Getz has been asked about a timeline, and he doesn’t have one. Why, if the money is around the same initially, except playing in oblivion probably hurts his off the field money, would a guy who could go anywhere, sign with a team that has no idea when or if they will good?

If Chris Getz was offering more money than anyone else, I would buy into his vision too.

And if it has changed because Getz asked him, why didn't he ask before? It amazes me ,for a team so concerned about every dollar, they blow off the cheapest way to be good, develop your own.

Yeah, who knows what you get for him. But if it's not a lot, I don't see the point.

Luis Robert put up a 5.0 WAR in 2023. Last year he was hurt again, and the team beyond dreadful. People act like he's never been good.

It's history repeating itself. Remember when the Sox failure before the failed rebuild was everyone else's fault but Rick Hahn's?

He would have been a great catcher. Probably would have even stayed healthy, and with the foul balls to the groin, probably would have had a few less side pieces.

I remember when the used to have Soxfest. A new ball cost $10. Balls signed by old bums were $5.

The fact is, as long as JR is around, the better he pitched, the less chance the Sox ever had of having him around in 2 years, so even if he pitched great the first half this year, the less control cost the Sox, and I still find it hard to imagine he makes it through another season unscathed. Hopefully, this turns into the best deal that was offered, There's some to really like here, and no real bust probable guys. He had to go.

I actually agree with you for once.

Their top catching prospect is one of them.

I get that, but the way the rules are, it's much easier for a team to take a pitcher. These guys all need some development or they wouldn't be available. A hitter basically loses a full season of develpment. A pitcher, not so much. And you can use them in garbage time, which there will be plenty in 2025.

You look back as some drafts, and some of the first rounds are absolutely brutal.

Like i wrote, odds are, they never get Ohtani. Even the Cubs had no shot. But how about Harper? Totally worth his contract. Changes the narrative about the whole organization. Didn't even put out an effort. As long as JR is around, unless the Sox get really lucky and draft a star, they aren't signing one.