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Its hard for people to accept others have opinions different from theirs, a sports message board is a breeding ground for head butting. Were all here for the same reason, the White Sox are our favorite baseball team. Just because you like this player and I think he's trash doesn't change that, even if a heated discussion takes place.

That's ridiculous, everyone here is a White Sox fan and wants them to be good. It's hard to see that happening anytime soon when history tells us they wont be signing major free agents and the expectation is that all our our prospects work out which funny enough is the dagger that killed the last rebuild we just went through not even a decade ago yet. I want this team to be good, I don't enjoy watching this garbage, but im gonna call a spade a spade.

I never saw the comments but I did see the tweet that said "Were anticipating him being here" which to me is very ambiguous and not definite we are going to pick up this option. Was that said elsewhere? Same with "Were open to adding to this team". That doesn't mean s%*# to me. How about, we WILL add to this team? You can't say that though, because then you have no way to defend yourself when you don't follow through.

Despite what those clowns said here about him, the Orioles had more than enough ammo to add Corbin Burnes and Dylan Cease and I am sure having a guy who ended up finishing 4th in NL Cy Young may have changed their fortunes in 2024. And, even letting Burnes walk if they still fell flat this year then they had Cease as a trade chip to recoup some value. I know people like to say the quality of the board has gone down, but I don't think it has. This community has always mirrored what the team on the field is doing, and it always will because that's what drives the discussion here. One of my favorite parts of the great Oriole invasion of 2024 was all of us coming together to try to get those dipshits out of here.

Seems to be about the same pace I got as well. Hopefully luck is on our side.

To be fair, the bullpen was absolutely atrocious last year so that was pretty deserved.

The Orioles going from the next great dynasty to last place in the span of 2 seasons has been a joy to watch. I always wonder what Sports Guy is up to these days.

I did another 10 sims, Sox were in the top 3 in 9/10 sims. So assuming they still end up the worst team that seems to be a virtual lock.

You should be worried about everyone, its a lottery so even if we don't win a game for the rest of the season we could still end up picking 7th. Its RNG. I just simmed 10 lotteries on tankathon, the Sox got the #1 pick 4 times, and the Twins got it 2 times. And this is with the current percentages.

Its not, they have looked better and have been much better than last year. I don't think anyone has said otherwise.

I guess you forgot earlier when they had a nice little stretch and there was a post about demanding apologies and another about the playoffs lol

Nothing I said was outside of reality, yet here you are to remind everyone that this bad team is not historically bad. They're still bad either way, so I guess take your victory lap?

This is the same cycle that has happened all year, the Sox look competent for a stretch and a handful of posters pants get tighter and then they eventually remind everyone why they are a 100 loss team. This roster is full of developing rookies and place holder veterans, they are going to have their ups and downs, but we still have a pretty mediocre pitching staff and the offense still leaves a lot to be desired. You can't rely on Quero, Lee, Meidroth, Montgomery, Burke, Martin, and Smith to all develop into great players because that's just not how it works. Sure would be great if it did though, but odds say a lot of those guys won't. Luis Robert is the only impact player on this entire roster and he has been struggling for two years now and they just tried to get rid of him. We still have a lot of bad to go before we get to the good, but this season is light years more enjoyable than last season so there's that.

Man how is this team ever going to get good again? They have nothing to trade, they aren’t signing difference makers. They are going to need to hit the development jackpot and even that is going to take several years to pay out. need that new owner ASAP

I’m with you, I don’t see how they pick that option up with the risk involved. I think they fully intended to trade him, played hardball, and everyone went to other options leaving them with nothing. I’ll gladly admit I was wrong if that option gets exercised.

Well, we will know in 30 mins.

No, but Merrill Kelly just went to the Rangers

No one said its zero, but valuable players get traded. Other teams discussed trades for Robert with the White Sox and declined to meet the White Sox asking price. Not because he will cost 20M next year, but because he hasn't been very good for the last two seasons. I am aware if the Sox wanted to move him no matter what, they could have. Other teams look at the price and the ask, and politely declined.

I agree Robert has been more valuable in his career. Santander got the contract he did because of the season he had, if Robert hits the market this offseason, his last two seasons are not good baseball. That's why Santander got the contract he did. I also don't agree that picking up his option is a disaster, but im not the one you need to convince about that.

Anthony Santander was coming off a 44 HR season where he drove in 100 runs and had an .800+ OPS, its not really a fair comparison.

I didn't forget, I clearly said I had no idea what has been discussed. Bottom line is, if Luis Robert was valuable he would have been traded, but we all kind of expected this based on his complete fall from grace since 2023.

Look at it like this, the White Sox just offered up Robert to every team in the league for essentially a 1/20 deal and no one is interested it would seem. And to be completely fair, I have no idea what type of money exchanging hands was discussed or what was actually offered. For all I know, they DID get a reasonable offer but refused to budge from their ask.

We have no interest in seeing a lot of these guys but if its their arms getting used up instead of our promising young guys, whatever.

We didn't, but at least he got moved.

Sorry, I thought it was obvious I meant they cant trade him for something other than scraps. It was to be relevant to his value. If you had a player that was going to be a FA after the season and his valuation was 5/100 I am pretty sure you could move that player at the deadline for something meaningful.