ChiSox59 Posted December 8, 2016 Share Posted December 8, 2016 QUOTE (SouthSideSale @ Dec 8, 2016 -> 10:53 AM) Jones should have really good value and I believe someone said as much (maybe Dave Cameron). Yep, Passan said as much about Jones in his column today as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted December 8, 2016 Share Posted December 8, 2016 QUOTE (lasttriptotulsa @ Dec 8, 2016 -> 10:58 AM) One thing of note that I haven't seen mentioned yet is that Robertson does have a limited no trade clause in which he can block a trade to 5 different teams. One of which is the Dodgers. The others don't really matter (Tigers, A's, Mets, Phillies). Ha. I found it hilarious when it turned out Matt Holliday signed a NTC with only Oakland on it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtySox Posted December 8, 2016 Share Posted December 8, 2016 Bob Nightengale @BNightengale The #Nats are in Jansen sweepstakes but now concede they may have to use trade market, and #Whitesox closer David Robertson intrigues them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox59 Posted December 8, 2016 Share Posted December 8, 2016 QUOTE (DirtySox @ Dec 8, 2016 -> 11:11 AM) Bob Nightengale @BNightengale The #Nats are in Jansen sweepstakes but now concede they may have to use trade market, and #Whitesox closer David Robertson intrigues them RH is the man. There is no way Rizzo didn't try to get Robertson in the deal. But he probably wouldn't do that without Robles. Stuck to his guns. Severino and one of Nuese/Stevenson/Ward/Banks should do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigsoxhurt35 Posted December 8, 2016 Share Posted December 8, 2016 Good I hope they screw the Nats over again. Sounds like Jansen is going to Miami or returning to LAD. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank_Thomas Posted December 8, 2016 Share Posted December 8, 2016 I read that the Bosox were in on Wade Davis, and they were said to have interest in Robertson before. Question is would you rather trade Robertson for Servino or Swihart if we had the choice? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted December 8, 2016 Share Posted December 8, 2016 QUOTE (Frank_Thomas35 @ Dec 8, 2016 -> 11:20 AM) I read that the Bosox were in on Wade Davis, and they were said to have interest in Robertson before. Question is would you rather trade Robertson for Servino or Swihart if we had the choice? Swihart but I really think DD was being truthful when talking about avoiding trades on any 2017 MLB pieces. I think they are going to use Swihart around field. Though I expect them to deal an SP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black_Jack29 Posted December 8, 2016 Share Posted December 8, 2016 This isn't the best time to trade Robertson, unless he's part of a larger deal. His WHIP was up last season and the Sox would be selling low on him right now. If Hahn can't get what he wants for Robertson right now, hold on to him and revisit trade discussions in July. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2Jimmy0 Posted December 8, 2016 Share Posted December 8, 2016 QUOTE (Black_Jack29 @ Dec 8, 2016 -> 11:24 AM) This isn't the best time to trade Robertson, unless he's part of a larger deal. His WHIP was up last season and the Sox would be selling low on him right now. If Hahn can't get what he wants for Robertson right now, hold on to him and revisit trade discussions in July. You do risk him being bad again though. I think they deal him now, let Jones be the closer and trade him for a ton in July. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCCWS Posted December 8, 2016 Share Posted December 8, 2016 QUOTE (bmags @ Dec 8, 2016 -> 12:21 PM) Swihart but I really think DD was being truthful when talking about avoiding trades on any 2017 MLB pieces. I think they are going to use Swihart around field. Though I expect them to deal an SP. I don't think they will. According to local paper today, Vazquez will probably be b/u catcher and Young is their 4th outfielder. So it looks like Swihart goes back to AAA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whisox05 Posted December 8, 2016 Share Posted December 8, 2016 #WhiteSox' David Robertson can block trades to: #Tigers, #Dodgers, #Mets, #Athletics, #Phillies. https://twitter.com/DevanFink/status/806914593507385344 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YouCanPutItOnTheBoardYES! Posted December 8, 2016 Share Posted December 8, 2016 QUOTE (WhiteSoxLifer @ Dec 8, 2016 -> 12:09 PM) #WhiteSox' David Robertson can block trades to: #Tigers, #Dodgers, #Mets, #Athletics, #Phillies. https://twitter.com/DevanFink/status/806914593507385344 The only one that might be an issue is LA and I don't know why he'd block a deal if he truly wants to win. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveno89 Posted December 8, 2016 Share Posted December 8, 2016 QUOTE (WhiteSoxLifer @ Dec 8, 2016 -> 12:09 PM) #WhiteSox' David Robertson can block trades to: #Tigers, #Dodgers, #Mets, #Athletics, #Phillies. https://twitter.com/DevanFink/status/806914593507385344 We could likely get more for Robertson at the deadline, but I'd absolutely be willing to move him I wouldn't be shocked to see Jones come up in trade talks for teams needing setup or closer help Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peppers312 Posted December 8, 2016 Share Posted December 8, 2016 how about Robertson for Robles + Fedde? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCalSox Posted December 8, 2016 Share Posted December 8, 2016 (edited) QUOTE (peppers312 @ Dec 8, 2016 -> 10:19 AM) how about Robertson for Robles + Fedde? Even for as awful of a trade as the Nats made yesterday, this would never happen in a million years. Robertson likely brings back someone like Kieboom/Stevenson & maybe Severino. They won't give up their best 2 remaining prospects to get Robertson, though. He's not worth that, anyways. Edited December 8, 2016 by SoCalSox Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox59 Posted December 8, 2016 Share Posted December 8, 2016 QUOTE (peppers312 @ Dec 8, 2016 -> 12:19 PM) how about Robertson for Robles + Fedde? Robles was only available for Sale. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JUSTgottaBELIEVE Posted December 8, 2016 Share Posted December 8, 2016 QUOTE (ChiSoxFanMike @ Dec 8, 2016 -> 01:10 PM) The only one that might be an issue is LA and I don't know why he'd block a deal if he truly wants to win. Hopefully the Marlins come through with signing KJ. That would result in the perfect scenario from a White Sox perspective: trade Robertson to the Nationals and trade Jones to the Dodgers. White Sox can skate by with Putnam at closer next season until Burdi is ready. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peppers312 Posted December 8, 2016 Share Posted December 8, 2016 QUOTE (ChiSox59 @ Dec 8, 2016 -> 12:26 PM) Robles was only available for Sale. sounds like they aren't getting Robertson then. i think once Jansen gets a deal, we'll get a better picture of where Robertson ends up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveno89 Posted December 8, 2016 Share Posted December 8, 2016 QUOTE (peppers312 @ Dec 8, 2016 -> 12:30 PM) sounds like they aren't getting Robertson then. i think once Jansen gets a deal, we'll get a better picture of where Robertson ends up. Robertson is not getting you Robles, you'd be lucky to land Feede straight up You would be fortunate right now to get a back end top 100 prospect at best in a trade, especially if a team takes on all of his remaining contract Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hi8is Posted December 8, 2016 Share Posted December 8, 2016 QUOTE (peppers312 @ Dec 8, 2016 -> 10:30 AM) sounds like they aren't getting Robertson then. i think once Jansen gets a deal, we'll get a better picture of where Robertson ends up. You're vastly over valuing Robertson and under valuing Robles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFutureIsNear Posted December 8, 2016 Share Posted December 8, 2016 Anybody think we would kick $ in to move a Robertson trade along? I know JR doesn't typically do that, but I think it would probably drum up more interest. I know his contract isn't a killer compared to what the open market is right now, but it definitely does come with risk given that he hasn't exactly been great. I just feel like a team would be more willing to give up something decent if they were getting Robertson at say 2/$18M Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted December 8, 2016 Share Posted December 8, 2016 QUOTE (TheFutureIsNear @ Dec 8, 2016 -> 01:19 PM) Anybody think we would kick $ in to move a Robertson trade along? I know JR doesn't typically do that, but I think it would probably drum up more interest. I know his contract isn't a killer compared to what the open market is right now, but it definitely does come with risk given that he hasn't exactly been great. I just feel like a team would be more willing to give up something decent if they were getting Robertson at say 2/$18M I hope so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted December 8, 2016 Share Posted December 8, 2016 QUOTE (peppers312 @ Dec 8, 2016 -> 12:30 PM) sounds like they aren't getting Robertson then. i think once Jansen gets a deal, we'll get a better picture of where Robertson ends up. This place gets more ridiculous every day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whisox05 Posted December 8, 2016 Share Posted December 8, 2016 The #Nats tried to get the #WhiteSox to include closer David Robertson in the Adam Eaton trade, but Sox refused, will deal separately. https://twitter.com/BNightengale/status/806942192245698560 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted December 8, 2016 Author Share Posted December 8, 2016 QUOTE (TheFutureIsNear @ Dec 8, 2016 -> 01:19 PM) Anybody think we would kick $ in to move a Robertson trade along? I know JR doesn't typically do that, but I think it would probably drum up more interest. I know his contract isn't a killer compared to what the open market is right now, but it definitely does come with risk given that he hasn't exactly been great. I just feel like a team would be more willing to give up something decent if they were getting Robertson at say 2/$18M I don't think the dollars are that big of deal, as compared to his performance last year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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