hi8is Posted June 16, 2017 Share Posted June 16, 2017 QUOTE (fathom @ Jun 16, 2017 -> 12:34 PM) So Jackson is on the Nats and Holmberg on the Sox Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted June 16, 2017 Share Posted June 16, 2017 QUOTE (Quinarvy @ Jun 16, 2017 -> 01:56 PM) Bryce Harper may kill someone Saw that video of him looking very frustrated after the bullpen blew another game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamshack Posted June 16, 2017 Share Posted June 16, 2017 Nah, it's no big deal...they have that big divisional lead! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted June 16, 2017 Share Posted June 16, 2017 (edited) QUOTE (iamshack @ Jun 16, 2017 -> 04:33 PM) Nah, it's no big deal...they have that big divisional lead! Technically you're correct until they don't have that big lead. I get you're being sarcastic but still correct. Edited June 16, 2017 by soxfan2014 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chitownsportsfan Posted June 16, 2017 Share Posted June 16, 2017 QUOTE (soxfan2014 @ Jun 16, 2017 -> 04:37 PM) Technically you're correct until they don't have that big lead. I get you're being sarcastic but still correct. Eh, any move they make is going to be for October. They could probably win the division with you and I closing. But in the playoffs they will need guys like Robertson. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted June 16, 2017 Share Posted June 16, 2017 Having watched Robertson for 2 1/2 years...still not even 100% convinced how certain I would be about him in the playoffs. Definitely not in any tie game. With Miller, you know you're in trouble no matter what the game situation. Would depend on a perfectly balanced workload being possible for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchetman Posted June 16, 2017 Share Posted June 16, 2017 QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jun 16, 2017 -> 05:36 PM) Having watched Robertson for 2 1/2 years...still not even 100% convinced how certain I would be about him in the playoffs. You and me both. If I'm hoping to win a World Series, he's not my closer. Maybe a set up man. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chitownsportsfan Posted June 16, 2017 Share Posted June 16, 2017 QUOTE (Hatchetman @ Jun 16, 2017 -> 06:48 PM) You and me both. If I'm hoping to win a World Series, he's not my closer. Maybe a set up man. Eh, he's not the dominant guy he was in his prime with the Yankees but he's still one of the top 10 closers in baseball. His xFIP is 3.17 and he's striking out as many guys as he ever has despite having some control and command issues. Perhaps from not being used often enough. You can easily win a world series with Robertson as your closer. He's tied with Houston's Ken Kiles in xFIP and fWAR and the Astros probably feel good enough about their closer to not worry. Among pitchers tossing over 20 innings Robertson is 40th in xFIP. Again, he was really dominant in New York, arguably the best closer in the game. Now that he's merely "very good" isn't really a problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchetman Posted June 16, 2017 Share Posted June 16, 2017 Yeah, you CAN win with a lot of things. 15 blown saves since he's been here. I have PTSD from him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveno89 Posted June 16, 2017 Share Posted June 16, 2017 QUOTE (Hatchetman @ Jun 16, 2017 -> 06:00 PM) Yeah, you CAN win with a lot of things. 15 blown saves since he's been here. I have PTSD from him. Roberson is likely the best available proven closer on the market right now. Hand is solid, but he won't come cheap either. The Nationals need two impact bullpen and and the White Sox could certainly provide that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted June 16, 2017 Share Posted June 16, 2017 Watson and Melancon aren't that exciting. Herrera is in Q territory, they have to hold onto him. So available options aren't exactly enticing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eminor3rd Posted June 16, 2017 Share Posted June 16, 2017 QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jun 16, 2017 -> 05:16 PM) Watson and Melancon aren't that exciting. Herrera is in Q territory, they have to hold onto him. So available options aren't exactly enticing. Herrera is a pending FA though, right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daggins Posted June 16, 2017 Share Posted June 16, 2017 QUOTE (Eminor3rd @ Jun 16, 2017 -> 05:30 PM) Herrera is a pending FA though, right? 2018. He's Arb4 next year, so he won't be cheap, and he's also having kind of a crappy season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted June 16, 2017 Share Posted June 16, 2017 QUOTE (chitownsportsfan @ Jun 16, 2017 -> 04:53 PM) Eh, any move they make is going to be for October. They could probably win the division with you and I closing. But in the playoffs they will need guys like Robertson. Well I know that by my point was that they haven't quite hit the urgency to make the move for an arm due to their lead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heads22 Posted June 17, 2017 Share Posted June 17, 2017 David Robertson, in save situations, has given up four hits this year. 41 AB, 4 BB, 4 hits. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveno89 Posted June 17, 2017 Share Posted June 17, 2017 QUOTE (soxfan2014 @ Jun 16, 2017 -> 06:50 PM) Well I know that by my point was that they haven't quite hit the urgency to make the move for an arm due to their lead. The division sucking is one thing, but not adding substantial relief help would be a major problem for the nats me That pen of not playoff worthy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted June 17, 2017 Share Posted June 17, 2017 QUOTE (Heads22 @ Jun 16, 2017 -> 10:09 PM) David Robertson, in save situations, has given up four hits this year. 41 AB, 4 BB, 4 hits. He definitely seems like someone that needs the pressure to succeed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted June 17, 2017 Share Posted June 17, 2017 (edited) Wade Davis is the same way...much better with 1 run lead than 2-4. Yankees' pen has gotten roughed up two nights in a row in Oakland. Judge, triple and 23rd homer. Ho hum. Edited June 17, 2017 by caulfield12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turnin' two Posted June 17, 2017 Share Posted June 17, 2017 This whole situation is such a perfect fit and makes so much sense, it will probably never happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxjusttyped Posted June 17, 2017 Share Posted June 17, 2017 QUOTE (turnin' two @ Jun 17, 2017 -> 11:54 AM) This whole situation is such a perfect fit and makes so much sense, it will probably never happen. The trade is such an obvious fit for both teams it annoys me that it hasn't happened already. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted June 17, 2017 Share Posted June 17, 2017 QUOTE (steveno89 @ Jun 16, 2017 -> 10:38 PM) The division sucking is one thing, but not adding substantial relief help would be a major problem for the nats me That pen of not playoff worthy. Again...I know... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamshack Posted June 17, 2017 Share Posted June 17, 2017 QUOTE (soxfan2014 @ Jun 17, 2017 -> 11:34 AM) Again...I know... Well you continue to post the same thing, despite the fact that the team and the manager are clearly frustrated. We all f***ing know they don't have to do anything. Guess what? There is no rule that says you have to try to win in professional sports, ever. The point is that even watching from the outside, you can see the facade is starting to show signs of stress due to their bullpen blowing nearly every. single. game. But yes, we all know, they do not have to do anything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted June 17, 2017 Share Posted June 17, 2017 QUOTE (Heads22 @ Jun 17, 2017 -> 03:09 AM) David Robertson, in save situations, has given up four hits this year. 41 AB, 4 BB, 4 hits. IIRC, 3 of the hits were in one outing (Tigers) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted June 17, 2017 Share Posted June 17, 2017 (edited) QUOTE (iamshack @ Jun 17, 2017 -> 01:52 PM) Well you continue to post the same thing, despite the fact that the team and the manager are clearly frustrated. We all f***ing know they don't have to do anything. Guess what? There is no rule that says you have to try to win in professional sports, ever. The point is that even watching from the outside, you can see the facade is starting to show signs of stress due to their bullpen blowing nearly every. single. game. But yes, we all know, they do not have to do anything. I never said they didn't have to make a move to win post season. Go back and look. That was never the point I was trying to make. They don't have to do anything...yet. They can wait for more teams to fall out of contention and more options to be available. 10 game lead in standings...they'll wait a bit. Edited June 17, 2017 by soxfan2014 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted June 17, 2017 Share Posted June 17, 2017 Another bullpen implosion Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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