Just now, Harry Chappas said:

Why not call up Martin and move Kopech to the pen. 

With guys being unavailable daily and lot of bad pitchers in the pen makes most sense to me.

They're in a rock and a hard place. If Kopech doesn't pitch starter's innings this year, he like Crochet, is stuck in the bullpen. 

If Kopech is a reliever the rebuild is fuckt. 

Wouldn't be surprised if Kopech has surgery for a knee clean up in the off-season. 

Staring right at a 2-5 home stand against our own weak division.

 

But things are going to turn around any day now, am I right TLR?

They do need to get Kopech innings no doubt, but he’s also going to hit a limit at some point.  If his knee is hurting him, then shut him down for a few weeks.  I don’t see a bullpen move solving either problem.

Really good job by Harrison.

1 minute ago, Chicago White Sox said:

They do need to get Kopech innings no doubt, but he’s also going to hit a limit at some point.  If his knee is hurting him, then shut him down for a few weeks.  I don’t see a bullpen move solving either problem.

I agree he needs to go on the IL till after the break to give his arm some rest before this knee issue leads to something else. Then sometime after the break throw him back in the rotation for some more innings

Shut him down for his next start and he can have over a two week break with the all star game coming up. 

3 minutes ago, SoxAce said:

Wouldn't be surprised if Kopech has surgery for a knee clean up in the off-season. 

I think it would be a minor miracle if he didn't have a knee surgery of some kind in the next 6 months

I wish Harrison could hit because he is above average in the field. That was a very athletic tag. 

I hurt my knee in college slipping on a wet field in southern Illinois on a weekend game.  I still pitched after this because I wanted to be a warrior.  I was super tough and did it because I didn't want to let my team down.  I took shots and it seems slightly altered my mechanics to compensate for the pain of landing on my plant leg.  I didn't do this on purpose I just didn't realize it.  I wound up tearing my labrum a month later.  The problem with compensating for an injury is that if it can mess with your mechanics other bad things can happen.  

I love Moncada in the lead off spot. Great idea TLR. 

five fucking pitches

There's your first Sox announcing crew excuse of the day from Len. If you had 2.2 IP by the shitty Tigers pitcher on your card, please collect your prize

Vaughn trying to inside out that fastball on the inner third. That is not a recipe for solid contact.

What an inning!

AAA cannon fodder looking great……hell of a job Frank M.

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1 minute ago, brijames1957 said:

I wish Harrison could hit because he is above average in the field. That was a very athletic tag. 

He's not suppossed to be needed to hit.

He should play 2B and bat 9th every game.

Mcguire and Moncada suck.  Both should have hammered those pitches. 

Just now, southsideirish71 said:

I hurt my knee in college slipping on a wet field in southern Illinois on a weekend game.  I still pitched after this because I wanted to be a warrior.  I was super tough and did it because I didn't want to let my team down.  I took shots and it seems slightly altered my mechanics to compensate for the pain of landing on my plant leg.  I didn't do this on purpose I just didn't realize it.  I wound up tearing my labrum a month later.  The problem with compensating for an injury is that if it can mess with your mechanics other bad things can happen.  

I think that is exactly what is going on with Kopech. He generates his power from his legs. He doesn't trust the knee so his velocity is way down. 

Michael was hurt on 6-12

He's thrown 5 four seam fastballs 96 or higher since then. He had 64 before that.

4 hours ago, ChiSox59 said:

No TA today. 

Pathetic.  Leury playing in his place.  This is not the time for a Sunday lineup. TLR is so predictably bad that is risible.

1 minute ago, brijames1957 said:

I think that is exactly what is going on with Kopech. He generates his power from his legs. He doesn't trust the knee so his velocity is way down. 

Most pitchers generate their power from their legs.  The plant leg is what takes the brunt of the force as you use it to stop forward momentum and then the rest of the arm almost acts like a slingshot.   In some cases the front plant leg will brace and will almost lock out.  That will sap velo if he cant do that.  

Just now, hankchifan said:

Pathetic.  Leury playing in his place.  This is not the time for a Sunday lineup. TLR is so predictably bad that is risible.

Unfortunately there is no sense of urgency with Tony.

12 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said:

They do need to get Kopech innings no doubt, but he’s also going to hit a limit at some point.  If his knee is hurting him, then shut him down for a few weeks.  I don’t see a bullpen move solving either problem.

Yeah just IL him after this game with the plan of bringing him back in Colorado following ASG. Get a fresh arm up for next 2 days and keep Martin after the DH Tue. Gives his arm and knee 16 days of rest. 

I’m going to throw out a bit of a conspiracy theory, but I think we could see a change or two during the All Star break.  Tony isn’t going anywhere, but I could see Menechino get the boot then.  There is no doubt in my mind that a shakeup is needed on the offensive side of things and I could see them giving Frank until the break to right the ship.

Just now, Chicago White Sox said:

I’m going to throw out a bit of a conspiracy theory, but I think we could see a change or two during the All Star break.  Tony isn’t going anywhere, but I could see Menechino get the boot then.  There is no doubt in my mind that a shakeup is needed on the offensive side of things and I could see them giving Frank until the break to right the ship.

no i think the offense is just fine, no one hits drew hutchison