January 25, 20233 yr 23 minutes ago, pcq said: This forum needs a therapist. The bitterness and hatred is alarming. For me, it is not bitterness and hatred. It is frustration because things never seem to change. And, of course, we, as fans, have no control over it. You can put up billboards or bring banners inside the ballpark, but it has no effect. Today, it's Clevenger, tomorrow it will be something else.
January 25, 20233 yr 29 minutes ago, pcq said: This forum needs a therapist. The bitterness and hatred is alarming. Nothing bitter and alarming about expecting results. After a decade, Hahn's track record speaks for itself. Like any manager or a company or sports organization, it's unacceptable and calling for him to be fired is not only appropriate and reasonable, but "alarming" that it hasn't been done already.
January 26, 20233 yr 2 hours ago, pcq said: This forum needs a therapist. The bitterness and hatred is alarming. In what should have been a gracious and celebratory moment, Jerry used his brief time on the air in the 1983 AL West Championship dugout to state the following: Quote “Wherever you’re at, Harry and Jimmy, eat your hearts out. I hope people realize what scum you are.” Even Hawk Harrelson was stunned into silence with a look of WTF?! Jerry has only increased his animosity, hatred and pettiness over the decades as he has gotten older, more stubborn, spiteful, greedy and antagonistic toward the ever dwindling numbers of remaining fans he hasn’t yet driven away. There will be a clean slate and 180 degree change in fan attitude once this Mr. Potter-like creature and his current Smithers are replaced by competent human beings worthy of empathy and support.
January 26, 20233 yr 2 hours ago, pcq said: This forum needs a therapist. The bitterness and hatred is alarming. ^^^^^The most gaslighting post ever.
January 26, 20233 yr 8 hours ago, Jack Parkman said: Hahn sucks. He should be fired. Kenny sucks. He should be fired. Jerry sucks. He should sell. Thoughts are all valid and not mutually exclusive. However, MAYBE if Jerry hired better management over the years we wouldn't be as pissed at him. Like say, if they could develop players from their minors like the 90s Braves did or the Rays do now. A team with an analytics infrastructure like Tampa and the ability to have a $150M payroll could be a sleeping giant (I'm taking $30M from payroll and investing it in other places in baseball ops) My issue with Jerry isn't about what he spends or doesn't spend, but rather that he needs to pick a damn lane. Dude is stuck operating in the late 20th century. He needs to join the 21st century. If the budget really is a sticking point, then the prudent thing to do is operate like the Rays but with more cash. Maybe you don't have to trade players as soon as they reach arb 2 like clockwork, but don't let anyone leave for nothing and be willing to make hard decisions. Again, my issue isn't with the budget but rather how they're using it. Good post Jack. This is something that should've been done long ago before they committed to a rebuild they should have committed to the infrastruture. That meant update analytics, biometrics having 2 DSL teams so you have the ability to draft 20 IFAs per year, scouting and development staff . I don't know if that's what Houston did while they were tanking but it sure looks like they rebuilt from the ground up and they have reaped the benefits. The initial investment might be sizable to do these things but once in place it's mostly the salaries of the scouting and development people along with the salaries of the minor league players. I'm not going to pretend like I know all expenses involved but you make a budget for that like anything else and if it's $10M in theory per year you adjust along the way to how much it is in practice. The problem is JR thinks he know how to run a baseball team. He doesn't . As someone else said he loves to draw arbitrary lines in the sand. Get a pipeline going that consistently brings in young talent and the equipment and people to support them and if it comes from the MLB payroll so be it. Once the system is in place you just keep the wheels greased and poach the executive talent from other teams who have been successful at it. JR, who says he hates to pay for potential, is missing the whole point of how to run a consistently winning franchise. You're paying peanuts for potential. You're paying through the nose for your own and upper managements bad decisions . Edited January 26, 20233 yr by CaliSoxFanViaSWside
January 26, 20233 yr 16 minutes ago, CaliSoxFanViaSWside said: JR, who says he hates to pay for potential, is missing the whole point of how to run a consistently winning franchise. You're paying peanuts for potential. You're paying through the nose for your own and upper managements bad decisions . See this is what I'm talking about with regard to picking a damn lane. Picking neither paying top dollar for proven talent nor paying for potential is like driving right on top of the center line. It's a disaster waiting to happen.
January 26, 20233 yr 3 hours ago, pcq said: This forum needs a therapist. The bitterness and hatred is alarming. Should Sox fans not be upset and/or expect more?
January 26, 20233 yr 3 hours ago, Tony said: Should Sox fans not be upset and/or expect more? Sox fans might need therapy for the collective emotional turmoil this sad sack organisation has put us through year after year, but that anger and bitterness is well earned.
January 26, 20233 yr 58 minutes ago, Tnetennba said: Sox fans might need therapy for the collective emotional turmoil this sad sack organisation has put us through year after year, but that anger and bitterness is well earned. Contact Brooks Boyer he’s missing the opportunity for a 1-800- help line.
February 1, 20233 yr Author Remember when Rick said he was going go make trades to help augment the roster and then proceeded to only make a minor one? Oh those were the days when I thought we were serious about winning instead of banking on perfect health & luck. What a fucking s%*# show.
February 1, 20233 yr 34 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said: Remember when Rick said he was going go make trades to help augment the roster and then proceeded to only make a minor one? Oh those were the days when I thought we were serious about winning instead of banking on perfect health & luck. What a fucking s%*# show. Rick said this at the 10d press conference. Since that occurred, they have acquired zero players on the major league roster, and have lost Liam Hendriks and likely Mike Clevenger.
February 1, 20233 yr 8 hours ago, FourEyesShottenhoffer said: I don’t even remember the minor one Same lol
February 1, 20233 yr 8 hours ago, FourEyesShottenhoffer said: I don’t even remember the minor one 36 minutes ago, Bob Sacamano said: Same lol Kade McClure to the Giants for Gregory Santos.
February 1, 20233 yr 10 hours ago, South Side Hit Men said: Rick said this at the 10d press conference. Since that occurred, they have acquired zero players on the major league roster, and have lost Liam Hendriks and likely Mike Clevenger. Rick Hahn, all hat, no cattle. Continues to spew bullshit to hide the fact that he's a loser who doesn't have a clue how to assemble a winning team. Will say it again, worst GM in sports, worst manager of any major business enterprise.
February 1, 20233 yr Player development is the lifeblood of winning organizations and the Sox just do not prioritize it. Most of my strong fandom(since 2000) the Sox have had one of the worst farms in baseball. I can't remember a time outside of the early 2000s and after the Sox sold Sale/Quintana/Eaton where the Sox weren't toward the bottom of MLB farm rankings.
February 19, 20233 yr Author In regard to the 2B battle, Rick Hahn just said Zach Remillard “has sort of been forcing the issue for a few years” and that we should see what he has in camp. Fire this guy right now. Just a complete fucking joke of a GM.
February 19, 20233 yr 23 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said: In regard to the 2B battle, Rick Hahn just said Zach Remillard “has sort of been forcing the issue for a few years” and that we should see what he has in camp. Fire this guy right now. Just a complete fucking joke of a GM. Career .706 hitter in the minors. What could go possibly wrong? If he was a Cardinals’ prospect at age 28, would expect RoY votes at the end of the season…we’ve probably sold 50-100 season tickets (equal number of refund requests) since the Clevinger debacle went public. Edited February 19, 20233 yr by caulfield12
February 19, 20233 yr 59 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said: In regard to the 2B battle, Rick Hahn just said Zach Remillard “has sort of been forcing the issue for a few years” and that we should see what he has in camp. Fire this guy right now. Just a complete fucking joke of a GM. A rotating mess of AAAA fodder will definitely finally fill that black hole. Awesome stuff Rick…
February 19, 20233 yr 3 hours ago, Chicago White Sox said: In regard to the 2B battle, Rick Hahn just said Zach Remillard “has sort of been forcing the issue for a few years” and that we should see what he has in camp. Fire this guy right now. Just a complete fucking joke of a GM. If anything Remillard could've/should've been the INF called up last year to ride the pine when they needed a body instead of burning an option on Sosa.
February 19, 20233 yr 9 hours ago, Chicago White Sox said: In regard to the 2B battle, Rick Hahn just said Zach Remillard “has sort of been forcing the issue for a few years” and that we should see what he has in camp. Fire this guy right now. Just a complete fucking joke of a GM. These spring training stories are sooooooo obviously trash.
February 20, 20233 yr On 2/19/2023 at 8:01 AM, Chicago White Sox said: In regard to the 2B battle, Rick Hahn just said Zach Remillard “has sort of been forcing the issue for a few years” and that we should see what he has in camp. Fire this guy right now. Just a complete fucking joke of a GM. I wonder how Remillard feels knowing he was used as leverage just to get Elvis Andrus to accept Jerry's offer.
February 20, 20233 yr 3 minutes ago, reiks12 said: I wonder how Remillard feels knowing he was used as leverage just to get Elvis Andrus to accept Jerry's offer. Lucky to be mentioned?
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