KrankinSox Posted August 2, 2022 Share Posted August 2, 2022 3 minutes ago, bmags said: listen guys, nobody hates this stuff more than me. But here is some dumb shit to make us silly It's Tom Fornelli. He's definitely just messing with people. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted August 2, 2022 Share Posted August 2, 2022 nope, sorry guys, an eyeball tweet was posted, it means a trade is coming. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GREEDY Posted August 2, 2022 Share Posted August 2, 2022 Those better be selling eyeballs. RIPito Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wegner Posted August 2, 2022 Share Posted August 2, 2022 2 minutes ago, bmags said: yes, this is likely sarcastic, but I am contractually obligated to post it. You need some help getting out of that contract?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted August 2, 2022 Share Posted August 2, 2022 7 minutes ago, bmags said: listen guys, nobody hates this stuff more than me. But here is some dumb shit to make us silly Why didn't you post about this last night? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted August 2, 2022 Share Posted August 2, 2022 Just now, chw42 said: Why didn't you post about this last night? because I fell asleep at 8, that is included in my contract Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buehrle>Wood Posted August 2, 2022 Share Posted August 2, 2022 23 minutes ago, caulfield12 said: Cronenworth bad? Darvish bad? Musgrove bad? Manaea bad? Snell and Clevinger haven’t worked perfectly, but they keep going for it. Wish Hahn could be that bad! Since he took over as GM, I have him bringing in 95 WAR as GM. He has given up 135 WAR though. So yeah he been worth -40 WAR in trades. As awful as Hahn is I doubt he's that bad, but maybe. He's been better of late though, albeit that may because the prospects he's given up haven't had time to accumulate anything Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad Hombre Posted August 2, 2022 Share Posted August 2, 2022 5 minutes ago, KrankinSox said: It's Tom Fornelli. He's definitely just messing with people. Yes he’s trolling. He specifically posted a few days ago saying that he would post eyeball emojis just to troll people 😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NCsoxfan Posted August 2, 2022 Share Posted August 2, 2022 Wonder if it means Hahn took a job as a Buona Beef franchise operator??!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted August 2, 2022 Share Posted August 2, 2022 Damn Twins bullpen just got nasty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MiddleCoastBias Posted August 2, 2022 Share Posted August 2, 2022 5 minutes ago, Bad Hombre said: Yes he’s trolling. He specifically posted a few days ago saying that he would post eyeball emojis just to troll people 😂 For those that didn't see what Bad Hombre is referencing, this is from a few days ago. But this could be real, who knows! Damnit, Tom. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted August 2, 2022 Share Posted August 2, 2022 6 minutes ago, Buehrle>Wood said: Since he took over as GM, I have him bringing in 95 WAR as GM. He has given up 135 WAR though. So yeah he been worth -40 WAR in trades. As awful as Hahn is I doubt he's that bad, but maybe. He's been better of late though, albeit that may because the prospects he's given up haven't had time to accumulate anything his strength though, that destroys hahn, is he knows he can regenerate these prospects at will. Yes, he gets another top 50 player for free (which brings him James Wood), but he can lose trades because he doesn't drop to 30th in the farm system with 3 full affiliates so devoid of pitching talent that they routinely pull fans down from the stands to finish innings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted August 2, 2022 Share Posted August 2, 2022 Just now, MiddleCoastBias said: For those that didn't see what Bad Hombre is referencing, this is from a few days ago. But this could be real, who knows! Damnit, Tom. It's definitely real. There will be a trade today and I will show you guys that I called it by posting that. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted August 2, 2022 Share Posted August 2, 2022 I wonder who the prospects are cause that return is light. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted August 2, 2022 Share Posted August 2, 2022 14 minutes ago, HOFHurt35 said: Rick Hahn is a dead man walking. This better not be another Ryan Pace 2.0 moment where the owners will allow him to try to save himself here. Just like when Pace was allowed to not only draft another QB in the first round (after his past failures) but also trade valuable capital to go up and get him (Fields). I want someone else making personnel decisions going forward. That’s how they end up one of the three worst organizations in football. But still worth a megayacht of money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted August 2, 2022 Share Posted August 2, 2022 Yonder Alonso is available. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KrankinSox Posted August 2, 2022 Share Posted August 2, 2022 2 minutes ago, chw42 said: Damn Twins bullpen just got nasty. Hopefully the return is painful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MiddleCoastBias Posted August 2, 2022 Share Posted August 2, 2022 Just now, bmags said: It's definitely real. There will be a trade today and I will show you guys that I called it by posting that. It's not real until Portillo's says it is, mags, we all know that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted August 2, 2022 Share Posted August 2, 2022 1 minute ago, KrankinSox said: Hopefully the return is painful. Doesn't look like it. Why the hell did the O's take this deal? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buehrle>Wood Posted August 2, 2022 Share Posted August 2, 2022 3 minutes ago, bmags said: his strength though, that destroys hahn, is he knows he can regenerate these prospects at will. Yes, he gets another top 50 player for free (which brings him James Wood), but he can lose trades because he doesn't drop to 30th in the farm system with 3 full affiliates so devoid of pitching talent that they routinely pull fans down from the stands to finish innings. Yeah fair enough. Hahn is awful so didn't mean to even inadvertently defend him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted August 2, 2022 Share Posted August 2, 2022 The Orioles must know something the scouting publications don't about the 2 guys in the low minors. Otherwise the headliner to this deal is a guy ranked in the 20s in the Twins system. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted August 2, 2022 Share Posted August 2, 2022 11 minutes ago, Buehrle>Wood said: Since he took over as GM, I have him bringing in 95 WAR as GM. He has given up 135 WAR though. So yeah he been worth -40 WAR in trades. As awful as Hahn is I doubt he's that bad, but maybe. He's been better of late though, albeit that may because the prospects he's given up haven't had time to accumulate anything Preller was terrible competing or retooling on the fly. Realistically, you have to judge by everything from Tatis and that huge international signing class onwards. That will give you a much different picture than his first run at competing, which was pushed upon him by an impatient ownership group…the same one that got impatient with James Shields under Ron Fowler. Matt Kemp, then to ATL for Hector Olivera/salary relief What was traded: Joe Wieland, Yasmani Grandal, Zach Eflin Justin Upton What was traded: Max Fried, Jace Peterson, Dustin Peterson, Mallex Smith What was received: Left as Free Agent Wil Myers What was traded: Jake Bauers, Burch Smith, Rene Rivera, Joe Ross and Trea Turner What was received: Still on Team Craig Kimbrel What was traded: Jordan Paroubeck, Cameron Maybin, Carlos Quentin, Competitive Balance Pick What was received: Logan Allen, Javier Guerra, Carlos Asujae, Manuel Margot The Competitive Balance Pick the Padres sent did end up turning into top prospect Austin Riley, but overall three years leader and this looks like a weak package for one of the best closers in the game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted August 2, 2022 Share Posted August 2, 2022 10 minutes ago, Buehrle>Wood said: Yeah fair enough. Hahn is awful so didn't mean to even inadvertently defend him. I do think Preller has been underwhelming, I mean they didn't make the playoffs last year, his mlb scouting seems pretty shit. And the hosmer deal is maybe the most indefensible mlb deal we've ever seen. but unlike hahn he at least gives himself room for error. Hahns only room for error really was (potential) additional budget, and he wasted it on the bullpen, after spending so much time in the rebuild going after college reliever prospects. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted August 2, 2022 Share Posted August 2, 2022 9 minutes ago, chw42 said: Doesn't look like it. Why the hell did the O's take this deal? Easy. 29 yr old relief pitcher and no prior history of success. Sell high get all you can before he implodes. Sure he could have discovered the secret to success but Orioles aren't winning this year. They are rebuilding and doing it smartly. Trade older breakout guys in a position that has a wide variance in results like relief pitchers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted August 2, 2022 Share Posted August 2, 2022 1 minute ago, CaliSoxFanViaSWside said: Easy. 29 yr old relief pitcher and no prior history of success. Sell high get all you can before he implodes. Sure he could have discovered the secret to success but Orioles aren't winning this year. They are rebuilding and doing it smartly. Trade older breakout guys in a position that has a wide variance in results like relief pitchers. I'm just surprised the market for him was that low when all we've been hearing about his how many teams are interested in relievers. He's not even a rental. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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