Squirmin' for Yermin Posted December 17, 2022 Share Posted December 17, 2022 38 minutes ago, NCsoxfan said: Agree on Marte. Wonder what he’s looking to get? He’d be a trade Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxBlanco Posted December 17, 2022 Share Posted December 17, 2022 This would be my 2B plan moving forward: 1. Explore the trade route and hopefully something comes along that’s worth pulling the trigger on. 2. If we’re moving into February and nothing has come to fruition on the trade front, then see if Drury or Andrus are still available. They are not players I’d sign right now, but if there’s not a market for them and they can be signed late in the offseason for less, then I would pull the trigger. 3. If neither of the above works out, then just go with Sosa/Romy/Popeye. It’s nice that there are multiple internal options because even if one of them struggles, hopefully another will step up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirmin' for Yermin Posted December 17, 2022 Share Posted December 17, 2022 12 minutes ago, SoxBlanco said: This would be my 2B plan moving forward: 1. Explore the trade route and hopefully something comes along that’s worth pulling the trigger on. 2. If we’re moving into February and nothing has come to fruition on the trade front, then see if Drury or Andrus are still available. They are not players I’d sign right now, but if there’s not a market for them and they can be signed late in the offseason for less, then I would pull the trigger. 3. If neither of the above works out, then just go with Sosa/Romy/Popeye. It’s nice that there are multiple internal options because even if one of them struggles, hopefully another will step up. I can’t believe people would rather play Andrus than any of the young guys. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxBlanco Posted December 17, 2022 Share Posted December 17, 2022 26 minutes ago, Squirmin' for Yermin said: I can’t believe people would rather play Andrus than any of the young guys. I would only want him if the price was right, but I loved what I saw from him last year in terms of intangibles and baseball smarts. We need more of that type of player on the team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted December 17, 2022 Share Posted December 17, 2022 1 minute ago, SoxBlanco said: I would only want him if the price was right, but I loved what I saw from him last year in terms of intangibles and baseball smarts. We need more of that type of player on the team. Didn’t he make a really dumb play that cost us? All I can remember is that and a bunch of HRs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johno Posted December 17, 2022 Share Posted December 17, 2022 Do we consider bringing Madrigal back? Right now he’s going to be a backup. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxBlanco Posted December 17, 2022 Share Posted December 17, 2022 1 minute ago, Chicago White Sox said: Didn’t he make a really dumb play that cost us? All I can remember is that and a bunch of HRs. I don’t recall what you’re referring to, but that doesn’t mean it didn’t happen. There was a game against Cleveland where we were down 1 in the middle part of the game. He led off an inning with a single and then stole second. We ended up scoring 3 runs that inning. Later that game in extras, he was on first with one or two outs and we trailed by a run. He stole second again, and then Abreu tied it up with a single. I’m pretty sure we lost that game anyway, and that’s just one example that sticks out, but I just always got the feeling that he was one of the smartest players on the field…a guy you just want on your team. But I’m admittedly going off of a gut feeling, rather than something that can be measured. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted December 17, 2022 Share Posted December 17, 2022 1 minute ago, SoxBlanco said: I don’t recall what you’re referring to, but that doesn’t mean it didn’t happen. There was a game against Cleveland where we were down 1 in the middle part of the game. He led off an inning with a single and then stole second. We ended up scoring 3 runs that inning. Later that game in extras, he was on first with one or two outs and we trailed by a run. He stole second again, and then Abreu tied it up with a single. I’m pretty sure we lost that game anyway, and that’s just one example that sticks out, but I just always got the feeling that he was one of the smartest players on the field…a guy you just want on your team. But I’m admittedly going off of a gut feeling, rather than something that can be measured. It was a defensive play I’m thinking about, but can’t quite recall the specific moment. Just remember him holding the ball and letting a guy score. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirmin' for Yermin Posted December 17, 2022 Share Posted December 17, 2022 3 minutes ago, Johno said: Do we consider bringing Madrigal back? Right now he’s going to be a backup. I would if he cost super little. Why not. Add him to the 2B rotation Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YouCanPutItOnTheBoardYES! Posted December 17, 2022 Share Posted December 17, 2022 Just now, Chicago White Sox said: It was a defensive play I’m thinking about, but can’t quite recall the specific moment. Just remember him holding the ball and letting a guy score. Can’t remember the specific game but he kinda stood there in a lapse of judgement momentarily and the runner headed home but Andrus threw him out anyway if I recall correctly. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirmin' for Yermin Posted December 17, 2022 Share Posted December 17, 2022 Just now, Squirmin' for Yermin said: I would if he cost super little. Why not. Add him to the 2B rotation Maybe they’ll take one of our expensive relievers plus a flier 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2Deep Posted December 17, 2022 Share Posted December 17, 2022 4 minutes ago, Johno said: Do we consider bringing Madrigal back? Right now he’s going to be a backup. I would. You can get him cheap and still lots of upside 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirmin' for Yermin Posted December 17, 2022 Share Posted December 17, 2022 Just now, 2Deep said: I would. You can get him cheap and still lots of upside Plus he has options should it not workout. But I don’t see how he wouldn’t immediatly become our starter unless one of the other young guys beats him out. Make it a legit competition 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOFHurt35 Posted December 18, 2022 Share Posted December 18, 2022 33 minutes ago, Johno said: Do we consider bringing Madrigal back? Right now he’s going to be a backup. I truly don't understand the Madrigal love. Sosa has 10x his potential. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buehrle>Wood Posted December 18, 2022 Share Posted December 18, 2022 Sosa did not close to being a major leaguer in any facet last year. Romy, despite being awful himself, at least looked the part. Hope we are not forced into having to rely on Sosa though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leonard Zelig Posted December 18, 2022 Share Posted December 18, 2022 17 minutes ago, HOFHurt35 said: I truly don't understand the Madrigal love. Sosa has 10x his potential. You really think Sosa is going to get 30,000 hits? 6 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted December 18, 2022 Share Posted December 18, 2022 Just now, Leonard Zelig said: You really think Sosa is going to get 30,000 hits? Well played Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted December 18, 2022 Share Posted December 18, 2022 16 minutes ago, Buehrle>Wood said: Sosa did not close to being a major leaguer in any facet last year. Romy, despite being awful himself, at least looked the part. Hope we are not forced into having to rely on Sosa though. So romy looked more like a big leaguer after having been in mlb before and repeating AAA than the guy who jumped from AA and was 4 years younger? Color me shocked. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MiddleCoastBias Posted December 18, 2022 Share Posted December 18, 2022 35 minutes ago, Johno said: Do we consider bringing Madrigal back? Right now he’s going to be a backup. I got the sense that the team was definitely ok when he left and they weren't too excited about his "Mr. 3000" cockiness. I think it's best to move on from some personalities like that and get a refresh in the clubhouse Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buehrle>Wood Posted December 18, 2022 Share Posted December 18, 2022 5 minutes ago, bmags said: So romy looked more like a big leaguer after having been in mlb before and repeating AAA than the guy who jumped from AA and was 4 years younger? Color me shocked. He did, yes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFutureIsNear Posted December 18, 2022 Share Posted December 18, 2022 12 minutes ago, Buehrle>Wood said: Sosa did not close to being a major leaguer in any facet last year. Romy, despite being awful himself, at least looked the part. Hope we are not forced into having to rely on Sosa though. It was 33 PA’s…he’s about to be 23 and more than proved himself in the upper minors. What’s the point in developing prospects if you’re not going to play them? I understand Sosa is flawed and I’m not saying I’m super confident in him, but we also don’t need an all-star at 2B. Give me above average D and a .700+ OPS and I’m happy…especially if it’s from a dirt cheap rookie contract. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted December 18, 2022 Share Posted December 18, 2022 1 minute ago, TheFutureIsNear said: It was 33 PA’s…he’s about to be 23 and more than proved himself in the upper minors. What’s the point in developing prospects if you’re not going to play them? I understand Sosa is flawed and I’m not saying I’m super confident in him, but we also don’t need an all-star at 2B. Give me above average D and a .700+ OPS and I’m happy…especially if it’s from a dirt cheap rookie contract. We definitely need more all stars. We don’t need to pay for a .700 ops 2nd baseman with average d. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFutureIsNear Posted December 18, 2022 Share Posted December 18, 2022 4 minutes ago, bmags said: We definitely need more all stars. We don’t need to pay for a .700 ops 2nd baseman with average d. I get it…but who are we getting that is going to be a difference making 2B? I’m all for exploring a Lowe trade with TB, but that might be about the only option and it’s very unlikely. Like it or not, if this team is going anywhere carried by all-stars it’s going to be TA, Robert, and Eloy (with Benintendi, Vaughn, and Yoan also playing well). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerksticks Posted December 18, 2022 Share Posted December 18, 2022 3 minutes ago, TheFutureIsNear said: I get it…but who are we getting that is going to be a difference making 2B? I’m all for exploring a Lowe trade with TB, but that might be about the only option and it’s very unlikely. Like it or not, if this team is going anywhere carried by all-stars it’s going to be TA, Robert, and Eloy (with Benintendi, Vaughn, and Yoan also playing well). We’re not. Without even checking most teams probably have a low OPS 2B. We happen to have 2-3 pretty darn good young guys to try there. This is a position we should not be spending money on IMO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poppysox Posted December 18, 2022 Share Posted December 18, 2022 30 minutes ago, MiddleCoastBias said: I got the sense that the team was definitely ok when he left and they weren't too excited about his "Mr. 3000" cockiness. I think it's best to move on from some personalities like that and get a refresh in the clubhouse Pedro is the one charged with refreshing the clubhouse. There are petty differences in every clubhouse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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