November 29, 20223 yr An offer to come back for his statue and jersey retirement, sure. To play baseball? I doubt it.
November 29, 20223 yr 18 minutes ago, Harold's Leg Lift said: They made Abreu an offer. Huh. Isn't that interesting. 1/20 probably is my guess.
November 29, 20223 yr It hurts seeing him go, but he's been a true professional and deserves a chance at playoff success with a more competent franchise.
November 29, 20223 yr Color me shocked Jose didn’t like Jerry’s offer of a Jelly of the Month subscription. Some say it’s the gift that keeps on giving.
November 29, 20223 yr 38 minutes ago, Tnetennba said: Makes sense. The timing of both the Clevinger and Abreu signings were very close. I'd guess that all these offers were on the table (including Houston with Verlander) and the dominoes finally fell. Aka, this is our best and final Jose and he went with Houston. Which then led to the Sox announcing Clev, the Verlander meetings with NYM and LAD, etc. Houston came forward with a very good deal for Jose. He's not worth 3/59mm at this age. I love the guy and it's not my money so I can be salty as a Sox fan, but he's just not worth that price right now. The difference is the Astros are a well run orginization that can absorb $10-15mm of wasted money, the Sox are not.
November 29, 20223 yr I bet Jose wanted that extension before last season. When he didn't get it I think that frustrated him and when he delivered again last year and didn't necessarily need them, he was done with the Sox.
November 29, 20223 yr 36 minutes ago, joejoesox said: 1/20 probably is my guess. Why tho? Were they really willing to back themselves into a corner on AV again? I don't really buy it.
November 29, 20223 yr 10 minutes ago, GREEDY said: I bet Jose wanted that extension before last season. When he didn't get it I think that frustrated him and when he delivered again last year and didn't necessarily need them, he was done with the Sox. I agree, he was done with the Sox which was most likely the reason he asked to sit out the last game and remained quiet during the year about resigning. He's a humble man That believes in respect. He respected and appreciated the White sox for signing him and wanted some respect in return for the effort he gave them which he never got.
November 29, 20223 yr 14 minutes ago, ChiSox59 said: Why tho? Were they really willing to back themselves into a corner on AV again? I don't really buy it. Maybe it means they would deal Vaughn. I could buy them offering a low ball offer to see if he'd take it. Edited November 29, 20223 yr by Bob Sacamano
November 29, 20223 yr This is 100% hindsight, because I don't think anybody lobbied for Jose to get a QO, but this contract suggests that he likely would have declined it.
November 29, 20223 yr 4 minutes ago, CentralChamps21 said: This is 100% hindsight, because I don't think anybody lobbied for Jose to get a QO, but this contract suggests that he likely would have declined it. He wasn't eligible to receive a QO this time since he was already offered one previously.
November 29, 20223 yr 49 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said: Boston had a seat at the table. Imagine that. Very well run organizations who contend every year for the past decade wanted out best player in free agency. Shocker.
November 29, 20223 yr 1 hour ago, ChiSox59 said: Why tho? Were they really willing to back themselves into a corner on AV again? I don't really buy it. For starters, its generally not good practice to let your best hitter walk. This is also a guy who our front office obviously has a ton of respect for so it would make total sense to me that they made an offer, even if it was a bad one. Vaughn played 84 games in the OF last year, if they really felt he flat out couldn't do it I think they would have pulled the plug on it. It doesn't surprise me at all if they thought they could bring Abreu back and have Vaughn rotate through 1B, DH, and LF again.
November 29, 20223 yr 1 hour ago, southsider2k5 said: Cleveland also with a seat at the table. 3/$30 probably (kidding). This was second worst case though. Unfortunately worst case scenario did really happen ?
November 29, 20223 yr 14 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said: I mean, yes. The only reason we all wanted Jose to stay is because he's a franchise legend that continues to rake, not because 1B is a void.
November 29, 20223 yr The generous Houston offer confirms that he was obviously a bona fide priority for at least a few teams or more.
November 29, 20223 yr 1 hour ago, T R U said: For starters, its generally not good practice to let your best hitter walk. This is also a guy who our front office obviously has a ton of respect for so it would make total sense to me that they made an offer, even if it was a bad one. Vaughn played 84 games in the OF last year, if they really felt he flat out couldn't do it I think they would have pulled the plug on it. It doesn't surprise me at all if they thought they could bring Abreu back and have Vaughn rotate through 1B, DH, and LF again. Well, that goes against pretty much everything we’ve been told. But yah, I guess I could see a lowball “respect” offer. But Hahn basically said Pito wasn’t coming back multiple times already this offseason.
November 29, 20223 yr Jose had a choice, either play for a team that offered you less money that will flirt with .500 or go and win a world series. The choice was obvious
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