fathom Posted March 7, 2023 Share Posted March 7, 2023 I know the object of this article was to take the blame off of Tony, but hearing Lynn talk about his lack of energy last year was startling https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/mlb/columnist/bob-nightengale/2023/03/07/white-sox-take-blame-put-awful-2022-season-behind-them/11417384002/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Sox Park Posted March 7, 2023 Share Posted March 7, 2023 On 3/6/2023 at 4:06 AM, Autumn Dreamin said: Not sure if a separate thread for Sox in the WBC makes sense yet, so I'll stick this here for now: His line through two exhibition games is 4-4 with two walks, a double, and that HR. Really think the WBC experience will be good for him. A healthy & motivated Yoyo, would be a boon to this team. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Chappas Posted March 7, 2023 Share Posted March 7, 2023 1 hour ago, fathom said: I know the object of this article was to take the blame off of Tony, but hearing Lynn talk about his lack of energy last year was startling https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/mlb/columnist/bob-nightengale/2023/03/07/white-sox-take-blame-put-awful-2022-season-behind-them/11417384002/ So Tony should have been relieved of his duties much sooner then he was and Anderson and Abreu proved to not be leaders in the clubhouse. How does the organization let that play out until late in the season. Sounds like JR's hiring of Tony may actually have taken years off Tony's life. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hogan873 Posted March 7, 2023 Share Posted March 7, 2023 47 minutes ago, Harry Chappas said: So Tony should have been relieved of his duties much sooner then he was and Anderson and Abreu proved to not be leaders in the clubhouse. How does the organization let that play out until late in the season. Sounds like JR's hiring of Tony may actually have taken years off Tony's life. Yeah, reading that article, it seems like the Sox did TLR a dis-service by not intervening and telling him he needed to step away and take care of himself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox59 Posted March 7, 2023 Share Posted March 7, 2023 10 minutes ago, hogan873 said: Yeah, reading that article, it seems like the Sox did TLR a dis-service by not intervening and telling him he needed to step away and take care of himself. Lol at anyone that think JR would have allowed that. It quite literally took a third party doctor intervening. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted March 7, 2023 Share Posted March 7, 2023 1 hour ago, Harry Chappas said: So Tony should have been relieved of his duties much sooner then he was and Anderson and Abreu proved to not be leaders in the clubhouse. How does the organization let that play out until late in the season. Sounds like JR's hiring of Tony may actually have taken years off Tony's life. I don’t know about that, it greatly reduced the available time he had to go drinking and driving over the summer 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted March 7, 2023 Share Posted March 7, 2023 9 minutes ago, Kyyle23 said: I don’t know about that, it greatly reduced the available time he had to go drinking and driving over the summer One can argue lives were saved. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tnetennba Posted March 7, 2023 Share Posted March 7, 2023 2 hours ago, fathom said: I know the object of this article was to take the blame off of Tony, but hearing Lynn talk about his lack of energy last year was startling https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/mlb/columnist/bob-nightengale/2023/03/07/white-sox-take-blame-put-awful-2022-season-behind-them/11417384002/ "It was clear to veterans like Lance Lynn, who played for La Russa in St. Louis, that La Russa was not himself most of the year. He had little energy. He needed daily naps. His voice was so soft that it was often hard to hear him. " More evidence that he should have never come back. And what an awful awful job he did. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Chappas Posted March 7, 2023 Share Posted March 7, 2023 4 hours ago, Kyyle23 said: I don’t know about that, it greatly reduced the available time he had to go drinking and driving over the summer Not sure about the driving part but he wasn't missing may post game nights out in the west loop Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chick Mercedes Posted March 8, 2023 Share Posted March 8, 2023 Oscar Colas: f*** you, service time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buehrle>Wood Posted March 8, 2023 Share Posted March 8, 2023 1 hour ago, Chick Mercedes said: Oscar Colas: f*** you, service time. Glad someone brought up his service time. Can someone logically explain why he wasn't brought up last year? Seems pretty clear the plan was always to have him on the roster this year. Why in the world was he held back last year? Seemed even clear to the posters on this site let along people actually making those plans. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bossanoveralls Posted March 8, 2023 Share Posted March 8, 2023 This Colas fellow has potential. I say he is the new right fielder or what? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleepy Harold Posted March 8, 2023 Share Posted March 8, 2023 1 hour ago, Buehrle>Wood said: Glad someone brought up his service time. Can someone logically explain why he wasn't brought up last year? Seems pretty clear the plan was always to have him on the roster this year. Why in the world was he held back last year? Seemed even clear to the posters on this site let along people actually making those plans. My conspiracy theory is that they were self-aware enough to not expose him to the toxicity that was occurring in Chicago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted March 8, 2023 Share Posted March 8, 2023 3 minutes ago, Sleepy Harold said: My conspiracy theory is that they were self-aware enough to not expose him to the toxicity that was occurring in Chicago. Or punishing him for posting stupid stuff on social media Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleepy Harold Posted March 8, 2023 Share Posted March 8, 2023 24 minutes ago, fathom said: Or punishing him for posting stupid stuff on social media That works too. That's why (IMO) they seem to be emphasizing "maturity and preparation" over "results" with him this spring. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tnetennba Posted March 8, 2023 Share Posted March 8, 2023 16 minutes ago, Sleepy Harold said: That works too. That's why (IMO) they seem to be emphasizing "maturity and preparation" over "results" with him this spring. Gut feeling they send him to Charlotte no matter what? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joejoesox Posted March 8, 2023 Share Posted March 8, 2023 Robert 0 for 3, 3 Ks vs NED, looks ready! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Parkman Posted March 8, 2023 Share Posted March 8, 2023 2 minutes ago, joejoesox said: Robert 0 for 3, 3 Ks vs NED, looks ready! Moncada 0-2, BB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleepy Harold Posted March 8, 2023 Share Posted March 8, 2023 14 minutes ago, Tnetennba said: Gut feeling they send him to Charlotte no matter what? I think he breaks camp with the Sox. I don't really see the benefit of sending him back to Charlotte given the skill set he'd provide the Sox. I think the service time bit is overblown because I'm not sure they would/should care that much about "team control" in his age 30 or 31 season. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox59 Posted March 8, 2023 Share Posted March 8, 2023 (edited) 9 hours ago, Buehrle>Wood said: Glad someone brought up his service time. Can someone logically explain why he wasn't brought up last year? Seems pretty clear the plan was always to have him on the roster this year. Why in the world was he held back last year? Seemed even clear to the posters on this site let along people actually making those plans. I mean, he had yet to appear in AAA at the time they would have promoted him and it was his first minor league season. Plenty of reasons to not bring him to the big leagues. But I tend to agree - once they made that decision, it’s pretty dumb to put him on the OD roster in 23 from a roster management perspective. Looks like Oscar may not give them much of a choice tho if he keeps this up. Edited March 8, 2023 by ChiSox59 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted March 8, 2023 Share Posted March 8, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, ChiSox59 said: I mean, he had yet to appear in AAA at the time they would have promoted him and it was his first minor league season. Plenty of reasons to not bring him to the big leagues. But I tend to agree - once they made that decision, it’s pretty dumb to put him on the OD roster in 23 from a roster management perspective. Looks like Oscar may not give them much of a choice tho if he keeps this up. Was probably too late with all the injuries anyway but it also would have given them one less 40-man spot to work with all off-season. I also don't think they planned on him being the OD starting RF, even heading into Spring Training until he started and has kept hitting to this point. Idk still feels like 50/50 one way or the other with the odds improving in his favor making the team OD each day. Edited March 8, 2023 by Bob Sacamano Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snopek Posted March 8, 2023 Share Posted March 8, 2023 23 hours ago, fathom said: I know the object of this article was to take the blame off of Tony, but hearing Lynn talk about his lack of energy last year was startling https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/mlb/columnist/bob-nightengale/2023/03/07/white-sox-take-blame-put-awful-2022-season-behind-them/11417384002/ It’s funny how the point was to take the blame off Tony, but it did the opposite. How exactly does an ENTIRE TEAM collectively play with less effort, less focus and a shitty attitude? If it’s just a few guys struggling like that, okay, that seems like it would be something more specific to those guys. But the whole team? Surely it’s just a coincidence! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MiddleCoastBias Posted March 8, 2023 Share Posted March 8, 2023 10 hours ago, Buehrle>Wood said: Glad someone brought up his service time. Can someone logically explain why he wasn't brought up last year? Seems pretty clear the plan was always to have him on the roster this year. Why in the world was he held back last year? Seemed even clear to the posters on this site let along people actually making those plans. My guess is that the FO wasn't ready to pen him in as the '23 OD starter and wanted to see what was available on the FA market first. Perhaps another big-brain move thinking they'd get someone like Nimmo or Comforto on a bargain? Idk. I'm not against waiting to see if they could get a FA RF, even if we knew the likelihood was low. We tried (maybe?), didn't work out, Colas starts '23 anyway. Same result, different route. Imagine how ripshit people would've been if we telegraphed that we were punting on FAs when everyone knew how big of a hole we have in RF. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted March 8, 2023 Share Posted March 8, 2023 1 hour ago, ChiSox59 said: I mean, he had yet to appear in AAA at the time they would have promoted him and it was his first minor league season. Plenty of reasons to not bring him to the big leagues. But I tend to agree - once they made that decision, it’s pretty dumb to put him on the OD roster in 23 from a roster management perspective. Looks like Oscar may not give them much of a choice tho if he keeps this up. I think per the new CBA, the Guardians and Braves get extra first round picks because of Spencer Strider and Steven Kwan being on their OD rosters and finishing top three in ROY voting. The Mariners definitely do because of Julio Rodriguez winning it. Maybe Colas doesn't come close, but playing a full season would let him rack up counting stats, which we all know voters love. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MEANS Posted March 8, 2023 Share Posted March 8, 2023 10 hours ago, joejoesox said: Robert 0 for 3, 3 Ks vs NED, looks ready! yeah not very encouraging AB's from him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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