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Colson Montgomery to AZ Complex

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Colson is not someone we can legitimately count on as a prospect.

I hope I am wrong but there are major issues with his regression and because of that he is on a trajectory to be a bust.  

 

Leave Miedroth at SS and start looking to fill other positions without counting on Montgomery.  

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He's batting below .200 still, so I wouldn't think there's been much improvement since AZ.

Last 7 games for Montgomery....

27 AB's     3  Hits   0 HR   2 RBI   12 K's   2 BB

 

14 minutes ago, 2Deep said:

Last 7 games for Montgomery....

27 AB's     3  Hits   0 HR   2 RBI   12 K's   2 BB

 

Very ugly. Starting to look like we aren’t going to be counting on Colson in the near future or maybe at all.

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23 minutes ago, 2Deep said:

Last 7 games for Montgomery....

27 AB's     3  Hits   0 HR   2 RBI   12 K's   2 BB

 

barely even a prospect at this point. Maybe he can become a poor man's Dejong.

Not excited and not counting on him anymore. Prove me wrong, Colson.

Who was the last home grown hitting prospect that turned into a decent major leaguer? TA?

The way to think about his trip to AZ is this: it returned him to his 2024 level. Unfortunately, that level wasn't good enough.

6 hours ago, Snopek said:

Who was the last home grown hitting prospect that turned into a decent major leaguer? TA?

It is basically TA, and then guys like Semien who were traded away and blossomed elsewhere.

Montgomery appears to be cooked unfortunately.  Obviously there is zero reason to give him on him right away, but he’s firmly out of the long-term plans until he shows some semblance of the prospect he once was.

20 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said:

Montgomery appears to be cooked unfortunately.  Obviously there is zero reason to give him on him right away, but he’s firmly out of the long-term plans until he shows some semblance of the prospect he once was.

Bad back, can’t hit fastballs. Doesn’t bode well.

colson is cooked, rip.

pour one out for ol boy

2 hours ago, joejoesox said:

colson is cooked, rip.

pour one out for ol boy

Nah, give him the entire drink.  He’ll need it to drown his sorrows when he’s selling car insurance soon.  😞 

there is something very toxic about this organization they we will probably never really know.  Of course there was Omar V. incident.  

This place is not attractive to free agents unless it's ones many teams pass on.  

So I would think this organization has a tarnished reputation and who knows how long that will last.  

1 hour ago, kitekrazy said:

there is something very toxic about this organization they we will probably never really know.  Of course there was Omar V. incident.  

This place is not attractive to free agents unless it's ones many teams pass on.  

So I would think this organization has a tarnished reputation and who knows how long that will last.  

It's been going on literally for years, one incident after another, from in-fighting among the front office people to players leaving with bad feelings to broadcaster in-fighting to trainers suing the organization and so on.

Some of this is expected, people are human after all, but the total body of dysfunction and incompetence is stunning and based on how little is ever done about it, JR seems to be fine with things. Everything starts at the very top and runs downhill from there. 

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I remember reading an article some time back about all the different things they were trying with Colson. Different mindsets, approaches, swing decisions, focus, and the like and my initial thought was that they were overwhelming him with too much. I stand by that. And feel like it routinely happens with this organization all the way back to Beckham. 

1 hour ago, TheBooneLoganEra said:

I remember reading an article some time back about all the different things they were trying with Colson. Different mindsets, approaches, swing decisions, focus, and the like and my initial thought was that they were overwhelming him with too much. I stand by that. And feel like it routinely happens with this organization all the way back to Beckham. 

There may be some truth to what you think. Guys can get confused which makes things worse.

Sometimes it is better to just say, "see the ball, hit the ball" and the hell with everything else. 

2 hours ago, kitekrazy said:

there is something very toxic about this organization they we will probably never really know.  Of course there was Omar V. incident.  

This place is not attractive to free agents unless it's ones many teams pass on.  

So I would think this organization has a tarnished reputation and who knows how long that will last.  

It will last as long as Reinsdorf owns the franchise.

10 minutes ago, Lip Man 1 said:

There may be some truth to what you think. Guys can get confused which makes things worse.

Sometimes it is better to just say, "see the ball, hit the ball" and the hell with everything else. 

Just like too many swing thoughts in golf.

Colson raised his OPS from .622 to .673 last night. Pretty crazy that can happen in one game. 3-4 with two HR and a BB. 

Had he gone to college, he would have been drafted in 2023, so while he is in a prolonged lull, he’s not behind really.  Charlotte stats can be so misleading, but the Ks are alarming.  I just wonder about bat speed and how his swing and approach look. 
Hard to count on any prospect, but don’t give up too quickly either.  In 2024,  Phillies’ Abel  had a 1.8 WHIP in 100 AAA innings…. Now one of the most promising young arms in the majors. 

13 minutes ago, GreenSox said:

Had he gone to college, he would have been drafted in 2023, so while he is in a prolonged lull, he’s not behind really.  Charlotte stats can be so misleading, but the Ks are alarming.  I just wonder about bat speed and how his swing and approach look. 
Hard to count on any prospect, but don’t give up too quickly either.  In 2024,  Phillies’ Abel  had a 1.8 WHIP in 100 AAA innings…. Now one of the most promising young arms in the majors. 

The Sox probably should have done with Colson what they're doing with Wolkow right now. Bite the bullet early, fix his swing and approach early, weather the half a season to a season of poor results on the gamble that the changes took. Now, they're working with him when he's burning options, and every strikeout gets thrown around Twitter. 

13 minutes ago, WestEddy said:

The Sox probably should have done with Colson what they're doing with Wolkow right now. Bite the bullet early, fix his swing and approach early, weather the half a season to a season of poor results on the gamble that the changes took. Now, they're working with him when he's burning options, and every strikeout gets thrown around Twitter. 

Might've been a case where the guy would be resistant until he saw his current approach wouldn't work at the higher levels. Montgomery also blew through the lower minors and was a consensus top 15 prospect until running into difficulty at AAA last year.

23 minutes ago, almagest said:

Might've been a case where the guy would be resistant until he saw his current approach wouldn't work at the higher levels. Montgomery also blew through the lower minors and was a consensus top 15 prospect until running into difficulty at AAA last year.

Yeah, this is a great point. No way someone is willing to change their swing/approach when they are dominating every level. 

48 minutes ago, GreenSox said:

Had he gone to college, he would have been drafted in 2023, so while he is in a prolonged lull, he’s not behind really.  Charlotte stats can be so misleading, but the Ks are alarming.  I just wonder about bat speed and how his swing and approach look. 
Hard to count on any prospect, but don’t give up too quickly either.  In 2024,  Phillies’ Abel  had a 1.8 WHIP in 100 AAA innings…. Now one of the most promising young arms in the majors. 

Pitching is a little different and Mick suffered from some arm issues and command challenges. The stuff was always there for him so seeing him rebound isnt really surprising. 

As a hitter, it takes a lot more than raw skills and Colson seems to be struggling with a lot. 

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