Y2Jimmy0 Posted July 10 Share Posted July 10 3 hours ago, Look at Ray Ray Run said: Make it make sense. Well the top part was my opinion. The second part wasn't. Smith was their top guy. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Look at Ray Ray Run Posted July 10 Share Posted July 10 Appreciate the insights into their thought process. I am probably nitpicking, but I just wish it wasn't portrayed as the right choice in the paraphrasing done. For example, if you passed on drafting a bat because you didn't have Ryan Fuller... how could we not be asking "but didn't you already PLAN on having the hitting instruction built out when you were drafting last year, so why would you allow your poor infrastructure that you were rebuilding to influence your future plans? Shouldn't you be selecting based on where you want to be, and not based on the past failures?" That's what I thought of reading through the post. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chitownsportsfan Posted July 10 Share Posted July 10 I don't take any of it at face value or beyond face value. It's all just fluff imo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted July 10 Share Posted July 10 31 minutes ago, Look at Ray Ray Run said: Appreciate the insights into their thought process. I am probably nitpicking, but I just wish it wasn't portrayed as the right choice in the paraphrasing done. For example, if you passed on drafting a bat because you didn't have Ryan Fuller... how could we not be asking "but didn't you already PLAN on having the hitting instruction built out when you were drafting last year, so why would you allow your poor infrastructure that you were rebuilding to influence your future plans? Shouldn't you be selecting based on where you want to be, and not based on the past failures?" That's what I thought of reading through the post. You said the quiet part out loud. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted July 10 Share Posted July 10 29 minutes ago, Look at Ray Ray Run said: Appreciate the insights into their thought process. I am probably nitpicking, but I just wish it wasn't portrayed as the right choice in the paraphrasing done. For example, if you passed on drafting a bat because you didn't have Ryan Fuller... how could we not be asking "but didn't you already PLAN on having the hitting instruction built out when you were drafting last year, so why would you allow your poor infrastructure that you were rebuilding to influence your future plans? Shouldn't you be selecting based on where you want to be, and not based on the past failures?" That's what I thought of reading through the post. yeah but also jesus christ he was hired the previous July and wasn't the whole point of Getz that he 'knew what they needed'...he moved so much slower than a regular old new gm cleaning house and bringing...uh...people that can teach hitting. I get, I guess, feeling like you'd want alignment on a top 6 pick and your PD team which wasn't there yet. It is absurd you didn't have that 12 months in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptatc Posted July 10 Share Posted July 10 38 minutes ago, chitownsportsfan said: I don't take any of it at face value or beyond face value. It's all just fluff imo. Agreed. No GM in any sport is honest right before a draft. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptatc Posted July 10 Share Posted July 10 18 minutes ago, bmags said: yeah but also jesus christ he was hired the previous July and wasn't the whole point of Getz that he 'knew what they needed'...he moved so much slower than a regular old new gm cleaning house and bringing...uh...people that can teach hitting. I get, I guess, feeling like you'd want alignment on a top 6 pick and your PD team which wasn't there yet. It is absurd you didn't have that 12 months in. Imagine the Nationals who fired their GM and manger 6 days before the draft and having the number 1 pick in a draft without a clear number 1. This pick will be talked about for years. Positive or negative. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted July 10 Share Posted July 10 15 minutes ago, ptatc said: Imagine the Nationals who fired their GM and manger 6 days before the draft and having the number 1 pick in a draft without a clear number 1. This pick will be talked about for years. Positive or negative. I am not sure if that is better or worse than letting your front office make the picks and then firing them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2Jimmy0 Posted July 10 Share Posted July 10 1 hour ago, Look at Ray Ray Run said: Appreciate the insights into their thought process. I am probably nitpicking, but I just wish it wasn't portrayed as the right choice in the paraphrasing done. For example, if you passed on drafting a bat because you didn't have Ryan Fuller... how could we not be asking "but didn't you already PLAN on having the hitting instruction built out when you were drafting last year, so why would you allow your poor infrastructure that you were rebuilding to influence your future plans? Shouldn't you be selecting based on where you want to be, and not based on the past failures?" That's what I thought of reading through the post. Yeah it’s totally fair. I wasn’t trying to justify anything. Hagen Smith is a really good prospect though and ownership will never pay for guys like that. I still would’ve taken a bat though. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptatc Posted July 10 Share Posted July 10 1 hour ago, southsider2k5 said: I am not sure if that is better or worse than letting your front office make the picks and then firing them. True. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kitekrazy Posted July 10 Share Posted July 10 2 hours ago, ptatc said: Imagine the Nationals who fired their GM and manger 6 days before the draft and having the number 1 pick in a draft without a clear number 1. This pick will be talked about for years. Positive or negative. Most fans don't care. It's not like it's the NFL or NBA. Most fans couldn't even list their farm teams. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptatc Posted July 10 Share Posted July 10 13 minutes ago, kitekrazy said: Most fans don't care. It's not like it's the NFL or NBA. Most fans couldn't even list their farm teams. Not talking about the fans. Within the industry analysis. The podcasts will be all over it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted July 10 Share Posted July 10 18 minutes ago, ptatc said: Not talking about the fans. Within the industry analysis. The podcasts will be all over it. NOT THE PODCASTS NOOOOOOOOO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptatc Posted July 10 Share Posted July 10 9 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said: NOT THE PODCASTS NOOOOOOOOO To each his iwn. You get your entertainment where you want and I'll find mine. You're missing a lot if you don't follow people who do this for a living. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted July 10 Share Posted July 10 29 minutes ago, ptatc said: To each his iwn. You get your entertainment where you want and I'll find mine. You're missing a lot if you don't follow people who do this for a living. If any franchise is spending time caring about what the talking heads are saying, they need other jobs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirmin' for Yermin Posted July 10 Share Posted July 10 The Orioles just traded a completely average reliever for the 37th pick... what the hell.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptatc Posted July 10 Share Posted July 10 20 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said: If any franchise is spending time caring about what the talking heads are saying, they need other jobs. Who said anything about the organizations caring? I believe I mentioned podcasts and entertainment which you mocked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted July 10 Share Posted July 10 10 minutes ago, ptatc said: Who said anything about the organizations caring? I believe I mentioned podcasts and entertainment which you mocked. Cool, so you agree their opinions don't matter where it counts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tnetennba Posted July 10 Share Posted July 10 16 minutes ago, Squirmin' for Yermin said: The Orioles just traded a completely average reliever for the 37th pick... what the hell.. Mike Elias on a bad day runs circles around Getz & Co. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
champagne030 Posted July 10 Share Posted July 10 38 minutes ago, Tnetennba said: Mike Elias on a bad day runs circles around Getz & Co. Agreed, but he's (Elias) already pissed away a 1st window by hoarding his prospects like they were his 1st born. This latest trade leaves them with 4 of the 1st 37 picks and 7 in the 1st 93. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baron Posted July 10 Share Posted July 10 Prospect hoader Elias now there's a name to look up to. Especially with the tremendous job he's doing in Baltimore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted July 11 Share Posted July 11 2 hours ago, Baron said: Prospect hoader Elias now there's a name to look up to. Especially with the tremendous job he's doing in Baltimore. There's the flip side to this... AJ Preller has traded away a whole complete team of All Star talents like Trea Turner, Munoz/Sea, Wood/Gore/Abrams, Naylor, Rooker, Fried, Bednar, E.Clase, Ph.Maton, etc. over the last decade. Which is worse? The Padres totally went for it last year and are still right there for the third WC spot, but they also have Cease King (IL) Arraez and Suarez they theoretically might be better off trading, rebuilding for the longer term future with an actual injection of young prospects. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lip Man 1 Posted July 11 Author Share Posted July 11 https://chicago.suntimes.com/white-sox/2025/07/10/white-sox-mlb-draft-first-round-second-round-pick-mike-shirley-chris-getz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxfest Posted July 11 Share Posted July 11 Sounds like a pitcher at 10 now……Getz smokescreen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tnetennba Posted July 11 Share Posted July 11 17 hours ago, champagne030 said: Agreed, but he's (Elias) already pissed away a 1st window by hoarding his prospects like they were his 1st born. This latest trade leaves them with 4 of the 1st 37 picks and 7 in the 1st 93. No doubt he has taken the prospected hugging to the extreme, and has failed to this point in finding the right balance between youth and veterans to reach sustained success. He did a lot right to get to that point though, which is more than we can say about Getz. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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