Lip Man 1 Posted July 25 Share Posted July 25 46 minutes ago, WBWSF said: Levine has said this on the Score morning show a few times the last few weeks including this morning. We shall see. I hope he's right. i hope he's right too but I seriously doubt it. With the lockout coming JR isn't going to spend a dime knowing the 2027 season could be severely impacted, he won't take risks remember. I wouldn't be shocked after the Sox trade Robert and maybe Beni, that he orders another payroll reduction for the 26 season. We'll see. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestEddy Posted July 25 Share Posted July 25 1 hour ago, Bob Sacamano said: Weren’t you the one you said he would boost ticket sales lol I did!! And they didn't when I said they should, and it all collapsed!! They should really take my calls more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteSox2023 Posted July 25 Share Posted July 25 (edited) 5 hours ago, WestEddy said: I did!! And they didn't when I said they should, and it all collapsed!! They should really take my calls more. I thought you were trolling. I said the same about Getz signing Thor — to make a few extra ticket sales late in the season. I still think it’s partially true. Afterall, he was never going to be ready to pitch and potentially flip by the deadline and anyone can eat bad innings late in the season. You don’t need to sign a once “big name” just to eat innings late in a losing season and it’s not like they have a 2026 option on Syndergaard in his deal. Edited July 25 by WhiteSox2023 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hogan873 Posted July 25 Share Posted July 25 Naylor would be a nice addition for the Sox next year, at least as a left-handed bat. He'd go from the asshole everyone hates to "he's our asshole, so we love him", like when Pierzynski joined the Sox. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timmy U Posted July 25 Share Posted July 25 11 minutes ago, hogan873 said: Naylor would be a nice addition for the Sox next year, at least as a left-handed bat. He'd go from the asshole everyone hates to "he's our asshole, so we love him", like when Pierzynski joined the Sox. What are people willing to pay Naylor? 3/45? 2/25? I don’t even know what his market is gonna be. I don’t think the Sox are ready to hang a long contract to a good-not-great player heading into his 30s. If he’s reasonable, sure. He’s way better than Ryan Noda, but the last thing the Sox need is a brand new Benintendi contract during a rebuild. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hogan873 Posted July 25 Share Posted July 25 11 minutes ago, Timmy U said: What are people willing to pay Naylor? 3/45? 2/25? I don’t even know what his market is gonna be. I don’t think the Sox are ready to hang a long contract to a good-not-great player heading into his 30s. If he’s reasonable, sure. He’s way better than Ryan Noda, but the last thing the Sox need is a brand new Benintendi contract during a rebuild. Agree. My guess is he'd want 3+ years, especially if he was going to join a team like the Sox that won't be a contender for a couple years. Unless he'd be looking to sign a shorter term deal to showcase and move on with a bigger deal in a year or two. I don't see the Sox offering more than what you suggested. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2Jimmy0 Posted July 25 Share Posted July 25 White Sox will have the lowest payroll in baseball for 2026 once they trade Robert. It’s literally Benintendi and arb and pre arb players. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timmy U Posted July 25 Share Posted July 25 43 minutes ago, Y2Jimmy0 said: White Sox will have the lowest payroll in baseball for 2026 once they trade Robert. It’s literally Benintendi and arb and pre arb players. Do you think the Sox are ready to spend on vets? I'm more asking a question than having an opinion on Naylor. I'd imagine not losing 100 games 4 years in a row might be a goal, but it's not the way this team is behaving. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted July 25 Author Share Posted July 25 46 minutes ago, Y2Jimmy0 said: White Sox will have the lowest payroll in baseball for 2026 once they trade Robert. It’s literally Benintendi and arb and pre arb players. Yeah, I went through this. Literally the only guy the Sox are obligated to in 2026 is Benny. Even if they didn't trade Robert, he is on a team option. A couple of guys hit arb, like Wilson and I think Civale, and then whatever weirdness that Tauch has. Other than that, the entire roster is pre-arb or free agents. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteSox2023 Posted July 25 Share Posted July 25 13 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said: Yeah, I went through this. Literally the only guy the Sox are obligated to in 2026 is Benny. Even if they didn't trade Robert, he is on a team option. A couple of guys hit arb, like Wilson and I think Civale, and then whatever weirdness that Tauch has. Other than that, the entire roster is pre-arb or free agents. I can see Getz spending some money but I still think it will be more of the same. $30+ million spread out amongst a bunch of C tier free agents, just like always. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted July 25 Author Share Posted July 25 11 minutes ago, WhiteSox2023 said: I can see Getz spending some money but I still think it will be more of the same. $30+ million spread out amongst a bunch of C tier free agents, just like always. If we take 22 players at an average of 800k (so slight above min) that is $17.6 million. My guess is that Tauchman and Wilson probably get moved (Wilson a lot more than Tauch) so that moves that money out. Civale probably doesn't, but I am going to guess we non-tender him. We could easily spend $30-50 million this off season without really hurting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted July 25 Share Posted July 25 22 minutes ago, Timmy U said: Do you think the Sox are ready to spend on vets? I'm more asking a question than having an opinion on Naylor. I'd imagine not losing 100 games 4 years in a row might be a goal, but it's not the way this team is behaving. I hope so. He’s a good fit and now will not cost a draft pick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timmy U Posted July 25 Share Posted July 25 Civale is an unrestricted free agent at the end of the year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted July 25 Share Posted July 25 The lowest payroll in baseball is the Marlins at $67M. We basically have Benintendi and nothing else next year. I don’t think we even a single arb eligible player if we end up moving Wilson. As such, if using all pre-arb players, we’re looking at ~$35M to fill out a roster for next year. That would imply $32M of additions just to get to the bare minimum. And I believe our cash payroll this year is another $20M higher than that figure, so theoretically we’re looking $50M or so of additions just to maintain. I fully believe they will spend some money next year and given the amount of young options we have, it should be allocated across less players. I expect a veteran SP, some OF additions, maybe a DH, and a couple veteran relievers to be added. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baron Posted July 25 Share Posted July 25 Getz knows the value of having 1-2 decent bats/vets in the lineup too with the amount of young players we have. Becomes a bigger problem if Tauchmann is traded. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spiderman Posted July 25 Share Posted July 25 I am confident that the White Sox will increase their payroll whether it's this off-season, next or more of a gradual increase. They are reaching the point where they have pretty solid pitching, and some young hitters, but they need proven veterans to complement. The larger question is whether they will spend on a difference making free agents or pay to keep their own talent. Based on history, they won't keep pitching on any upper end free agents and they won't spend on free agents beyond mid-level. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lip Man 1 Posted July 25 Share Posted July 25 42 minutes ago, spiderman said: I am confident that the White Sox will increase their payroll whether it's this off-season, next or more of a gradual increase. They are reaching the point where they have pretty solid pitching, and some young hitters, but they need proven veterans to complement. The larger question is whether they will spend on a difference making free agents or pay to keep their own talent. Based on history, they won't keep pitching on any upper end free agents and they won't spend on free agents beyond mid-level. It's hard to predict anything really considering the strong chance for a lockout after the 26 season which will definitely impact JR's thinking on spending and of course the fact that we have no idea when Ishbia will actually take over and what his philosophy is going to be. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaleAleSox Posted July 25 Share Posted July 25 6 hours ago, hogan873 said: Naylor would be a nice addition for the Sox next year, at least as a left-handed bat. He'd go from the asshole everyone hates to "he's our asshole, so we love him", like when Pierzynski joined the Sox. I don't know, man. I really hate him. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted July 25 Share Posted July 25 Looks like the TDL is shaping up about the way it was last year. Naylor for 2 pitching prospects. Gregory Soto for 2 pitching prospects. Ryan McMahon just traded to the Yankees for...wait for it...... 2 pitching prospects. Trade TDL for the Sox is likely to be anti-climatic. Don't expect much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted July 25 Share Posted July 25 33 minutes ago, Lip Man 1 said: It's hard to predict anything really considering the strong chance for a lockout after the 26 season which will definitely impact JR's thinking on spending and of course the fact that we have no idea when Ishbia will actually take over and what his philosophy is going to be. Yep the only history that will mean much is maybe recent history. I'll believe it when I see it. But if there's any higher than the recent norm of very little spent ,it's likely coming from Ishbia not JR. And there's not been one iota of anything that would indicate there's an uptick in spending coming unless you trust Bruce Levine. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted July 25 Author Share Posted July 25 1 hour ago, Lip Man 1 said: It's hard to predict anything really considering the strong chance for a lockout after the 26 season which will definitely impact JR's thinking on spending and of course the fact that we have no idea when Ishbia will actually take over and what his philosophy is going to be. We DO have SOME evidence from the brothers time involved in the Phoenix Suns. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lip Man 1 Posted July 25 Share Posted July 25 24 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said: We DO have SOME evidence from the brothers time involved in the Phoenix Suns. Absolutely agree, he'd be a refreshing change from what JR has been feeding us since 2007 but until he actually takes over in a different sport under different conditions it's hard to say what will happen. I think he will spend and spend a lot but until it happens who knows for sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kitekrazy Posted July 25 Share Posted July 25 Why do we assume Naylor would want to be a White Sox? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falstaff Posted July 25 Share Posted July 25 7 hours ago, hogan873 said: Naylor would be a nice addition for the Sox next year, at least as a left-handed bat. He'd go from the asshole everyone hates to "he's our asshole, so we love him", like when Pierzynski joined the Sox. You are reading my mind Naylor as DH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaleAleSox Posted July 25 Share Posted July 25 55 minutes ago, kitekrazy said: Why do we assume Naylor would want to be a White Sox? Because you give him money or an extra year that another team won't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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