I’m tired of these types of posts

[caulfield12]

1 hour ago, nrockway said:

Well, I didn't define "mental gymnastics", did I? so what's my definition of it? Stearns was GM of the Brewers for eight years, would you not give Getz the same eight years? That would make your comparison logically consistent anyway. TBH, If Stearns was fired right now, he probably wouldn't get another job, ostensibly because he did something unethical unrelated to baseball. BTW, well-regarded GMs Billy Eppler and James Click do not have GM jobs after performing well. Will Kim Ng get another GM job after leading the Marlins to the playoffs?

You've invented a hypothetical and it's clearly fallacious. If Stearns is fired in his second season ("Getz today"), do you think he gets another job? That's not really how it works though.

I think it's funny that you called a logically-inconsistent hypothetical situation "reality" so boldly. It literally isn't reality, it's a mental exercise you just made up! lol, lmao even. That last sentence you wrote is sort of what you're doing, isn't it. 

You should also take that advice about being nicer, guy with a "no fat chicks" avatar. I like family guy but it's a curious choice of avatar for an adult...

Ng is running that new professional women's softball league that debuted this year in coordination with MLB.

Baseball-adjacent.  Like the relationship between the NBA and WNBA.

Edited August 26 by caulfield12

[Snopek]

4 hours ago, hogan873 said:

I was obviously talking about in regards to the team.  You read way too much into that sentence.

My bad then, but it was not obvious by any means with your choice of wording.

[Snopek]

Now that this thread has gone exactly as expected, can I take a moment to say something we should all be able to agree on?

It's just really really nice not having to hear from Pedro Grifol anymore. (And no, this does NOT mean I think Venable should win manager of the year).

[WestEddy]

56 minutes ago, champagne030 said:

WTF?  A "mental exercise" is another term for "mental gymnastics".  Are you really calling me the "R" word or "mentally challenged"?  I'm so offended, be nicer!  The point that flew over your head was that Getz will never GM again when he's fired and Stearns will get a job the day he leaves the Mets.

And an avatar of a comedy show depicting a fat guy wearing a shirt that says "no fat chicks" is humor and making fun of the person wearing it, not of some "chick".

Correct. Chris Getz will have multiple offers to be PBO. By the time he leaves Chicago, "GM" will be laughably below his pay scale.

[WhiteSox2023]

1 hour ago, WestEddy said:

Correct. Chris Getz will have multiple offers to be PBO. By the time he leaves Chicago, "GM" will be laughably below his pay scale.

If the Sox history of GM careers continues, this will be Getz’s first and last MLB job.

[Lip Man 1]

1 hour ago, WhiteSox2023 said:

If the Sox history of GM careers continues, this will be Getz’s first and last MLB job.

Certainly recent history anyway Hemond and Himes were the last Sox G.M.'s that I can remember who worked for another organization in that position after they left the Sox. 

[DoUEvenShift]

1 hour ago, WhiteSox2023 said:

If the Sox history of GM careers continues, this will be Getz’s first and last MLB job.

Maybe he'll get a gig on MLB network

[caulfield12]

21 minutes ago, Lip Man 1 said:

Certainly recent history anyway Hemond and Himes were the last Sox G.M.'s that I can remember who worked for another organization in that position after they left the Sox. 

Dan Evans went to the Dodgers…but he was just Asst GM.  Real Midwest kid with Chicago/Iowa roots and ties.  Long career across five organizations, but Dombrowski was arguably the best to get away.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dan_Evans_(baseball)

Edited August 26 by caulfield12

[77 Hitmen]

1 hour ago, WhiteSox2023 said:

If the Sox history of GM careers continues, this will be Getz’s first and last MLB job.

Yep, when was the last time a Sox GM ever worked in MLB again?  30 years ago?

Same with managers.  Ozzie's the last one after he walked out on the team because he already had another job lined up and then crashed and burned after only 1 season in Miami.  Nobody since then.  Before that, Jerry Manuel went on to manage the Mets after he was fired after the 2003 season.  

[FloydBannister1983]

On 8/24/2025 at 7:35 PM, CaliSoxFanViaSWside said:

Maybe you didnt notice that the lecture thread just started was someone tired of posts about incremental steps foward which has to happen after you reach rock bottom. No one is throwing a party. It's just hey Im enjoying things more than last year. Maybe you want to segregate Soxtalk into Poohs and Eeyores sections where we all hang out with our own kind so the Eeyores in charge don't remove posts of the forward looking people or accuse them of gaslighting.

I guaranteed the Jedi section would have more people starting game threads and rooting for victories while the Eeyores continue to ignore game threads like they have been. You know who you are. 

I'm sure there are people who consider themselves in the middle . Just remember if you're still here yelling fire Getz and Colson is a bum every day that youll be here jumping on the bandwagon once it starts gaining momentum. Sorry if some of you can't acknowledge the momentum has started already because the previous rebuild broke your wittle hearts. 

Oh here we go … “you’ll be on the bandwagon …”  These are so tiresome.

Is there some sort of prize awarded to fans by sports teams for unwaveringly supporting them during trying times?  What do they get out of it?  I saw the Blackhawks empty for plenty of years, just diehards showing up.  When they were winning 10-15 years ago guess who were at the finals games.  A bunch of corporate types that have never seen a hockey game in their lives.  Congratulations on supporting them in the down times.  Your fan rating must be through the roof.

[FloydBannister1983]

On 8/25/2025 at 1:46 PM, southsider2k5 said:

The fact that you are still here pretending to be oppressed, despite going after people all of the time is the best evidence of all against you.  You hate it here, and everyone is apparently against you, yet you keep posting.   Weird right 

Yeah … I haven’t seen any posts deleted for positivity.  Granted, I’m not privy to that but I think there would have been an outcry against it.

[chitownsportsfan]

58 minutes ago, FloydBannister1983 said:

Oh here we go … “you’ll be on the bandwagon …”  These are so tiresome.

Is there some sort of prize awarded to fans by sports teams for unwaveringly supporting them during trying times?  What do they get out of it?  I saw the Blackhawks empty for plenty of years, just diehards showing up.  When they were winning 10-15 years ago guess who were at the finals games.  A bunch of corporate types that have never seen a hockey game in their lives.  Congratulations on supporting them in the down times.  Your fan rating must be through the roof.

So the Detroit Lions managed to actually kill my fandom. Huge fan as a kid. Couldn't have cared less prior to the Dan Campbell and Brad Holmes era. When they lost the playoffs games the last two years I was a bit upset but I'm not even a fan like that anymore, the losses don't even sting that bad. 

So it can happen. At the end of the Dan Quin era in Detroit I don't think you had a single sunshine blower left. Some franchises just are not redeemable. The Lions found something finally when ownership changed. Maybe the Sox can do the same.

[Soxfest]

It went from just horrid in 2024 to just fun bad in 2025. Nothing more

Edited August 26 by Soxfest

[Tnetennba]

4 hours ago, WestEddy said:

Correct. Chris Getz will have multiple offers to be PBO. By the time he leaves Chicago, "GM" will be laughably below his pay scale.

For all of your delusional posts, this one takes the cake. 

[Look at Ray Ray Run]

Mental gymnastics = personal attack? 

Huh?

[Look at Ray Ray Run]

6 hours ago, JUSTgottaBELIEVE said:

To the last part, why does Stearns get all this credit and not Doug Melvin? Melvin’s role in turning the Brewers into a perennial playoff contender when they were a perennial doormat prior to his arrival is much more impressive than anything Stearns did imo.

And again, Getz has sucked in his own right so this isn’t a pro-Getz post. Getz is tasked with doing what Melvin did two decades prior, and I highly doubt he’s the guy to successfully do it.

Who said he gets all the credit? He certainly deserves credit himself, as he built on the foundation established before him, but we dole out too much credit to singular people in this space as is. 

While bad leaders deserve much of the blame for failure, successes are typically an outcome of a good structure with a lot of smart and talented people working together.

[CaliSoxFanViaSWside]

2 hours ago, FloydBannister1983 said:

Yeah … I haven’t seen any posts deleted for positivity.  Granted, I’m not privy to that but I think there would have been an outcry against it.

My posts don't attack anyone. I dont want to bore everyone fighting in public. Im a nice person . I dont make fun of posters whose posts contain a lot of names or call other posters trolls . These guys are some of the nicest people on Soxtalk. But they are considered eccentric . If being different means were allowed to make fun of them and laugh at them then Im not dealing with grownups. Im dealing with children who used to make fun of the kid that limps from childhood illnesses or the fat kids  all while pretending to be a human rights activist. Actions speak louder than words. I guess our moderator is just so magnamimous that because Im so bad to everyone that they just let it slide. I did get a warning though once for calling someone Captain Obvious . I never tell people their posts are stupid like many do. I try not to use trigger words . I dont yell at people to piss off like a mod did to me just because I like sticking up for the young players . JR I always criticize but I have patience for any GM working for him now. I do not have patience for liars and bullies. There is censorship here going on if you happen to be on the wrong side of the majority who are sick of pretty much everything White Sox enough to make up phony scenarios in which our pitching coaches are either hurting  pitchers arms or neglecting them to hurt development. I've seen both theories tossed about willy nilly without any thing to substantiate them except  alot of arms needed Tommy John surgery and the Sox have pitching coaches. That's it ,someone has to be blamed. It's asisine yet because I and others have fun and enjoy the product on the field it makes me some kind of rube.  makes me and others a target while they have the nerve to tell me Im mean ?  My whole argument is based on why are you all so mean? Why so hateful especially when we'll have a very rich owners soon enough ? But Im not supposed to say anything because Im outnumbered and that makes me wrong . Imagine if Caulfield or Greg775 started fighting back for every time our intrepid persecuted mod made fun of them. Im a fucking saint compared to him . If the only reasons you come to Soxtalk is to insult people in the organization, put down players, coaches, front office people etc. I think thats more an indication of anger management issues than I ever display. 

[CaliSoxFanViaSWside]

3 hours ago, FloydBannister1983 said:

Yeah … I haven’t seen any posts deleted for positivity.  Granted, I’m not privy to that but I think there would have been an outcry against it.

All you have to do is read my posts. Look how I treat people outside of a few run ins with the whole Siths and Jedis issues. I talk baseball. I post stats to keep others aware of the progress of the young players. I compliment people . I hand out positive emojis like candy. Then look at the guy who speaks in generalities about  my behavior towards people. 

How can there be an outcry if no one notices the posts are gone ?Heck once they disappear you don't have any proof they existed. The only person to sound the alarm is the person whose posts were deleted when I do speak up I get accused of having a persecution complex . You can't fight city hall. To the people in power you're a nuisance. You're Don Quixote making up imaginary foes. 

[champagne030]

1 hour ago, CaliSoxFanViaSWside said:

 I dont yell at people to piss off like a mod did to me just because I like sticking up for the young players . JR I always criticize but I have patience for any GM working for him now. I do not have patience for liars and bullies. There is censorship here going on if you happen to be on the wrong side of the majority who are sick of pretty much everything White Sox enough to make up phony scenarios in which our pitching coaches are either hurting  pitchers arms or neglecting them to hurt development. I've seen both theories tossed about willy nilly without any thing to substantiate them except  alot of arms needed Tommy John surgery and the Sox have pitching coaches. That's it ,someone has to be blamed. It's asisine yet because I and others have fun and enjoy the product on the field it makes me some kind of rube.  makes me and others a target while they have the nerve to tell me Im mean ?  

OMG!  You are not being persecuted.  We are all Sox fans.  You choose to think that tomorrow will be better than today.  Rock on, positive attitude.  Most of us see the SOS.

[WhiteSox2023]

[caulfield12]

We're all tired of this Sox bullpen blowing leads...somehow worse than last season.

Should be 15-16 games under .500 by Pythagorean but they're somehow 36 games under.

Swing of ten games due to the pen, defense, hitting with RISP and Venable's questionable decision-making.

[nrockway]

5 hours ago, Look at Ray Ray Run said:

Mental gymnastics = personal attack? 

Huh?

Just be nicer. It's only baseball. Baseball is fun. If baseball isn't fun, there are other hobbies. I don't think any of us are doing 'mental gymnastics', but any reasonable person would view the remark as personally insulting. I try to back my point of view up with data and argumentative evidence; I may be wrong, who can predict the future, but it isn't 'mental gymnastics'. I have literally zero stake in whether or not the GM is good at his job or not. I think the Bulls GM is bad at his job and my thinking would reflect that if we talked about basketball on this forum. I think when Getz was hired, I probably made some posts to suggest he wasn't actually qualified, I certainly thought that, but I feel like the burden of evidence is that I would've been wrong at that early stage. Historically, I like the Bulls more than I like the Sox. I only started posting on this forum because I'm fed up with the Bulls management, and if I felt pessimistic about the future of the team, the tone of my posts would be much different. There's obviously still a question about ownership, but that hasn't really been the discussion. 

My feelings aren't hurt, but there's probably a level of discourse that we could strive toward. Don't need to be on the attack. Take a walk to the Unity Temple, feel the aura of the Prairie School. No bad feelings when you're sitting in that park outside Pleasant Home. Take a bike ride along the Des Plaines River Trail, you can take it all the way up to Wisconsin and connect to their trail systems and explore a beautiful state -- in keeping with the theme, ride to Taliesin. Sometimes people have different perspectives on the team, there's no reason to be mean-spirited.

Edited August 27 by nrockway

[WestEddy]

7 hours ago, Tnetennba said:

For all of your delusional posts, this one takes the cake. 

You mean it takes the inspirationally prescient cake? Thanks. 

[WhiteSox2023]

8 minutes ago, WestEddy said:

You mean it takes the inspirationally prescient cake? Thanks. 

Once Ishbia takes over, Getz will be standing right next to Kenny and Hahn…

[southsider2k5]

The usual people have taken over, got the topic reframed, done their name calling and finger pointing, were supposedly done days ago, are still going, but the point still remains despite those who think they alone should decide what Soxtalk should think...  one does not have to groupthink on Soxtalk.  If you think the Sox would be a better franchise under semi competent leadership and ownership,  that is a valid opinion.  Don't be gaslit into feeling validated by a world salad that just isn't true. Be free.