WestEddy Posted August 29 Share Posted August 29 I don't think Getz can acquire "more" for Robert this offseason. There were probably 3-5 teams kicking the tires on Robert, at all, at the TDL. Maybe you get more teams to talk, and some of those teams who weren't looking at the TDL have the same junk to offer, but theirs is more interesting, like post-hype prospects. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T R U Posted August 29 Share Posted August 29 6 minutes ago, WestEddy said: I don't think Getz can acquire "more" for Robert this offseason. There were probably 3-5 teams kicking the tires on Robert, at all, at the TDL. Maybe you get more teams to talk, and some of those teams who weren't looking at the TDL have the same junk to offer, but theirs is more interesting, like post-hype prospects. You would hope if they pick up this option they would include cash in any deal, which makes no sense not to since you would be paying it if you kept him anyways. It would be interesting to know if that was on the table in previous discussions. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestEddy Posted August 29 Share Posted August 29 4 minutes ago, T R U said: You would hope if they pick up this option they would include cash in any deal, which makes no sense not to since you would be paying it if you kept him anyways. It would be interesting to know if that was on the table in previous discussions. I think Nightengale indicated a few times they were willing to send money with Robert or Benintendi. From July 8th on (when he returned from injury), Robert OPSed .808. That's the guy Getz will be marketing, and unless somebody has a Vargas and a Mead they have no room for, Robert's coming into 2026 with us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted August 29 Share Posted August 29 21 minutes ago, T R U said: You would hope if they pick up this option they would include cash in any deal, which makes no sense not to since you would be paying it if you kept him anyways. It would be interesting to know if that was on the table in previous discussions. I know it has been said that including dollars was on the table, but I also can't help but think that this might have something to do with the articles about other GMs being frustrated with Getz... if this changed at the last minute. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T R U Posted August 29 Share Posted August 29 9 minutes ago, WestEddy said: I think Nightengale indicated a few times they were willing to send money with Robert or Benintendi. From July 8th on (when he returned from injury), Robert OPSed .808. That's the guy Getz will be marketing, and unless somebody has a Vargas and a Mead they have no room for, Robert's coming into 2026 with us. Well, there's no way they are ever moving Benintendi. He cant hit, he can't field. He will be DFA'd before midseason in 2027 if I had to put money on it. Unless of course, some team just really needs that veteran leadership he can provide and has to have him 😉 Robert, as Tony has pointed out, has been the exact same player for 2 seasons now. Not a very good one. And certainly not worth $20M. No one is going to trade for him in the offseason, and like I said, Ill believe it when I see it in regards to them picking up this option. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted August 29 Share Posted August 29 16 minutes ago, WestEddy said: I think Nightengale indicated a few times they were willing to send money with Robert or Benintendi. From July 8th on (when he returned from injury), Robert OPSed .808. That's the guy Getz will be marketing, and unless somebody has a Vargas and a Mead they have no room for, Robert's coming into 2026 with us. I'm curious if Robert had been dealing with something more recently and that is what drove them to shut him down - balancing act - but with season lost - do you risk him playing through something or rush back but see his production dip - or do you risk the fact that its another season he is down? No good answer. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T R U Posted August 29 Share Posted August 29 4 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said: I know it has been said that including dollars was on the table, but I also can't help but think that this might have something to do with the articles about other GMs being frustrated with Getz... if this changed at the last minute. Im willing to bet he had some ridiculous ask that he refused to budge from, which should have been the Dylan Cease move not the Luis Robert of today move. If they were willing to send money, but then altered it or took it off the table, that just gives more credibility to the fact they would rather save money than get something done I think. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted August 29 Share Posted August 29 (edited) 2 hours ago, Y2Jimmy0 said: I can't believe that this is still a talking point. The Luis Robert decision was made in July. Once they didn't trade him for whatever they could, picking up the option became a necessity. If they weren't picking it up, they would've traded him for a very underwhelming Cedric Mullins type return. Declining Robert's option at this point would be a fireable offense. They're already committed. It wasn't a "see what happens and then decide" because the front office needed to make a decision on his future by 7/31 and they did so by not trading him. I don't know if he'll actually be on next year's team but I'd be absolutely stunned if they declined his option and made him a free agent. It is a talking point because bringing him back makes no sense. Another major leg injury. The only reason they would bring him back is for him to play better and they could get a couple of decent prospects for him. That's best case scenerio That would cost the White Sox at least another $10 million, if everything worked out. Why don't they let him go, and take that 10 million and try to buy a couple of middling prospects? At least as good of result, way less risk. Just because they didn't trade him in July is no reason to have to hold on to him now. To me, THAT is a fireable offense. But there have been many fireable offenses over the years that just came and went. Edited August 29 by Dick Allen 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joejoesox Posted August 29 Share Posted August 29 (edited) no chance would I offer him that 20mil, is there a buyout if they don't exercise the option? maybe it would be better if they gave him a QO for a draft pick? Edited August 29 by joejoesox Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted August 29 Share Posted August 29 (edited) 2 minutes ago, joejoesox said: no chance would I offer him that 20mil, is there a buyout if they don't exercise the option? maybe it would be better if they gave him a QO for a draft pick? 2 mil buyout I believe Edited August 29 by fathom 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestEddy Posted August 29 Share Posted August 29 14 minutes ago, joejoesox said: no chance would I offer him that 20mil, is there a buyout if they don't exercise the option? maybe it would be better if they gave him a QO for a draft pick? QO would be more money than the $20M Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soxrwhite Posted August 29 Share Posted August 29 Grandal, Jimenez, Moncada, Anderson, and finally Robert. Open the windows and let the smell out, and the fresh air in. Buy him out and show him the door. Addition by subtraction. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted August 31 Share Posted August 31 Per Bob- MLB executives find it unfathomable that the White Sox will pick up Luis Roberts’ $20 million option after the season just so they can trade him next summer. Roberts is out for the season with a strained hamstring after yet another miserable year, and has missed 289 games the past five seasons. He will have virtually zero trade value this winter at $20 million. Do the White Sox really want to take the gamble he can stay healthy long enough next season to trade him, and eat most of his salary just to move him? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaleAleSox Posted August 31 Share Posted August 31 26 minutes ago, Dick Allen said: Per Bob- MLB executives find it unfathomable that the White Sox will pick up Luis Roberts’ $20 million option after the season just so they can trade him next summer. Roberts is out for the season with a strained hamstring after yet another miserable year, and has missed 289 games the past five seasons. He will have virtually zero trade value this winter at $20 million. Do the White Sox really want to take the gamble he can stay healthy long enough next season to trade him, and eat most of his salary just to move him? At this point just pick up the option for 20 and hope he performs. They have zero payroll next year. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted August 31 Share Posted August 31 What a joke 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2Jimmy0 Posted August 31 Share Posted August 31 If they traded him in July, we would’ve killed them for what the return would’ve been. This is the better path. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted August 31 Share Posted August 31 13 minutes ago, Y2Jimmy0 said: If they traded him in July, we would’ve killed them for what the return would’ve been. This is the better path. I’m sure it would be to what they ultimately get for him, unless a team really thinks he’s the missing piece and overpays 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted August 31 Share Posted August 31 (edited) 27 minutes ago, Y2Jimmy0 said: If they traded him in July, we would’ve killed them for what the return would’ve been. This is the better path. It may have been the better path, but another big injury puts a roadblock on that path. He did play better before he got hurt. He is the teams most talented player. But……I’m probably a bigger Luis Robert fan than most here, but if they pick up his option, they are wasting their money. Edited August 31 by Dick Allen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted August 31 Share Posted August 31 2 hours ago, Dick Allen said: Per Bob- MLB executives find it unfathomable that the White Sox will pick up Luis Roberts’ $20 million option after the season just so they can trade him next summer. Roberts is out for the season with a strained hamstring after yet another miserable year, and has missed 289 games the past five seasons. He will have virtually zero trade value this winter at $20 million. Do the White Sox really want to take the gamble he can stay healthy long enough next season to trade him, and eat most of his salary just to move him? Roberts? Who writes this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted August 31 Share Posted August 31 1 hour ago, Y2Jimmy0 said: If they traded him in July, we would’ve killed them for what the return would’ve been. This is the better path. If they let him walk for nothing, they absolutely blew it, and fucked it up multiple times. They blew it by not trading him when Getz took over, they blew it by not putting cash in this winter for the Reds deal, and they blew it by getting literally nothing for the right to pay Luis more money to go away. At that point It's like having a junk car on your lawn that the city is about to fine you for when the local scraper rolls up and offers to $50 for it, but you refuse because it is worth $60, and instead pay the fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Look at Ray Ray Run Posted August 31 Share Posted August 31 1 hour ago, Y2Jimmy0 said: If they traded him in July, we would’ve killed them for what the return would’ve been. This is the better path. It's better to get absolutely nothing for him. What? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted August 31 Share Posted August 31 53 minutes ago, Look at Ray Ray Run said: It's better to get absolutely nothing for him. What? Yeah if Bob is saying this, they won’t pick up the option Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tnetennba Posted August 31 Share Posted August 31 2 hours ago, Y2Jimmy0 said: If they traded him in July, we would’ve killed them for what the return would’ve been. This is the better path. There is still a non-zero percent chance they don't pick up the option and waste 2M while he walks for nothing. I think most rational fans here would recognize the Sox taking what they could get in July for an oft injured player having a dismal year several years removed from All Star level play. This isn't selling Cease for pennies on the dollar. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted August 31 Share Posted August 31 2 hours ago, southsider2k5 said: Roberts? Who writes this? Maybe he was talking to Plesac and The Big Hurt about him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2Jimmy0 Posted August 31 Share Posted August 31 2 hours ago, Look at Ray Ray Run said: It's better to get absolutely nothing for him. What? Huh? They won’t get nothing for him. 1 hour ago, fathom said: Yeah if Bob is saying this, they won’t pick up the option Disagree. Not picking up the option would be stunning and the exact opposite of everything the GM has been saying publicly. 1 hour ago, Tnetennba said: There is still a non-zero percent chance they don't pick up the option and waste 2M while he walks for nothing. I think most rational fans here would recognize the Sox taking what they could get in July for an oft injured player having a dismal year several years removed from All Star level play. This isn't selling Cease for pennies on the dollar. I really don’t think it’s non-zero. If it was, they would’ve traded him for essentially the Cedric Mullins return. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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