White Sox sign RHP Seranthony Domínguez, 2/20M

[FriendlyNorthsider]

1 minute ago, ChiSoxFanMike said:

Problem with Gallen and Valdez is that they have the QO attached to them. As much as I’d like to improve the rotation, I don’t think they are in the position to be forfeiting draft picks just yet.

Ahhhh that’s an extremely good point. Please disregarded my 1000 word post. 

[PaleAleSox]

2 minutes ago, FriendlyNorthsider said:

Ahhhh that’s an extremely good point. Please disregarded my 1000 word post. 

It's the thought that counts. 

[2Deep]

WSCR and the that Lil piss boy Laurence Holmes and Leila pissing on the singing of Dominguez. 

 

[PaleAleSox]

2 minutes ago, 2Deep said:

WSCR and the that Lil piss boy Laurence Holmes and Leila pissing on the singing of Dominguez. 

 

Holmes isn't allowed back on the wagon when the Sox are good again. 

[bmags]

Love how much JR believes in FA spending on bullpen.

[PaleAleSox]

10 minutes ago, Lip Man 1 said:

Define "good."

Losing less than 100 games would be an improvement but hardly good.

Sox fans will be dancing when Ishbia takes over. Until then? Probably not. 

Over the last two seasons you have probably posted over 50 times how they blew a game with a lead in the 7th inning or later. This should improve that number substantially. Last year they had 24 of them. Cutting that even in half would make them a much more enjoyable product. 

[JUSTgottaBELIEVE]

1 hour ago, Look at Ray Ray Run said:

Luis Robert, according to the market, was worth 22 million + Acuna and another player (let's call it 27 million) this week.

All 30 teams just had a chance to sign Dominguez, and he got 10 million annually. 

It's certainly less likely that the market views Dominguez as being worth more than Robert in 6 months because the market just said he was clearly worth less today. That said, it doesn't mean he CAN'T be, but it's obviously not highly likely.

High leverage arms ALWAYS trade for a premium in July. Position players barely worth their existing contracts do not. It’s not about their worth today, it’s about their worth at the trade deadline in 6 months.

[ptatc]

37 minutes ago, CaliSoxFanViaSWside said:

Exactly it's how you approach a rebuild. Its like evolution. Enviromental adaptation changes your DNA. There will be strengths along with weaknesses while the guy at the top loses his power. The environment will change again when ownership changes and then the approach will maintain its foundational base  while having more money. 

This is the part I question. I know everyone has to look forward to something. But im skeptical that an owner is going to spend a team into the red for an extended period of time. The first 5 years with all of the tax breaks is a given. But after rhat... .

[BamaDoc]

20 minutes ago, kwill said:

3.  I stil believe that Robert is undervalued here. The truth is find centerfielders who are gold glovers, steal 40 bases and hit 20 home runs a year is very rare. I understand that he will only play 120 games. However, that's his floor. That's not a bad floor for a team that has very few good players on it. 

I liked Robert and really wanted him to be good here.  Your third point says that is his floor.  May I point out that in six seasons, Luis won one gold glove, hit over 20 homers once, played over 120 games once and never stole 40 bases.  I actually hope he does at least that for the Mets this year but he didn't here.

[JUSTgottaBELIEVE]

1 hour ago, Chicago White Sox said:

JustGottaBelieve is not even remotely objective when it comes to Robert

Respectfully, I’ve been a lot more right about Robert than you over the past couple years so are you certain I’m not the objective one here?

[ptatc]

36 minutes ago, Look at Ray Ray Run said:

The writers for the game should be embarrassed for praising any team that is spending less than 100 million dollars. 

Its almost like they are objective and looking at the quality of the talent and assessing the players and team.

[ChiSoxFanMike]

19 minutes ago, FriendlyNorthsider said:

Ahhhh that’s an extremely good point. Please disregarded my 1000 word post. 

All good. Sox definitely need another SP, just have to find one that they wouldn’t have to give up a draft pick to sign.

[JUSTgottaBELIEVE]

3 minutes ago, ChiSoxFanMike said:

All good. Sox definitely need another SP, just have to find one that they wouldn’t have to give up a draft pick to sign.

If they feel comfortable about his health, Giolito checks many boxes on a 2 year contract.

[southsider2k5]

4 minutes ago, ptatc said:

Its almost like they are objective and looking at the quality of the talent and assessing the players and team.

Maybe they need some other help then.

[CaliSoxFanViaSWside]

32 minutes ago, Look at Ray Ray Run said:

The writers for the game should be embarrassed for praising any team that is spending less than 100 million dollars. 

Youre awfully good at telling all kinds of people they should be embarassed to praise others. 

Not every teams does business the same way. We shouldnt have preface every sentence about the Sox with I'm still angry, hurt embarassed and weep and gnash my teeth often over being in baseball hell as a fan however... 

Some of us just like to look ahead and find solace in the fact that there are good things happening with a new owner out there waiting patiently. I'm glad he's not embarassed to buy such a historically weak franchise. 

[Lip Man 1]

19 minutes ago, PaleAleSox said:

Over the last two seasons you have probably posted over 50 times how they blew a game with a lead in the 7th inning or later. This should improve that number substantially. Last year they had 24 of them. Cutting that even in half would make them a much more enjoyable product. 

Very true. The Sox bullpen has been an unmitigated disaster and this guy could help. I guess it also depends on your definition of "enjoyable."

The Sox "only" losing 93 games say instead of 100 doesn't move the needle much for me at this time.

And he'll probably get traded for prospects at the deadline if he does well.

Like I said Sox fans will "dance" when JR is gone and Ishbia is running things.  

[Tony]

1 hour ago, CaliSoxFanViaSWside said:

Passan said its the right direction  and it is . No one is dancing a jig and envisioning playoffs.  But maybe a path to a few more prospects and a bit more consistent winning while the foundational base thickens and prepares to one day be good enough to help the new owner be happy about what he's getting. 

H

He also said this in 2020. Ain't a single player with the organization left, never won a playoff series, and during that stretch set the record for worst record in baseball. 

Like Passan, but the trailer ended up being the best part of the movie...

[CaliSoxFanViaSWside]

11 minutes ago, ptatc said:

This is the part I question. I know everyone has to look forward to something. But im skeptical that an owner is going to spend a team into the red for an extended period of time. The first 5 years with all of the tax breaks is a given. But after rhat... .

We will see. The Ishbia family is quite rich and they may treat the franchise better than those who own franchises like Tampa, Cleveland, Minnesota, Pittsburgh, Baltimore and on and on. 

We could end up like Philly, Boston, Toronto, Yankees. And there are other franchises like San Diego. & SF, who arent afraid of $100M -$300M contracts. 

Im not expecting Mets or Dodger type spending. The Ishbia's own other sports franchises so there is some history to go on. 

[Look at Ray Ray Run]

12 minutes ago, CaliSoxFanViaSWside said:

Youre awfully good at telling all kinds of people they should be embarassed to praise others. 

Not every teams does business the same way. We shouldnt have preface every sentence about the Sox with I'm still angry, hurt embarassed and weep and gnash my teeth often over being in baseball hell as a fan however... 

Some of us just like to look ahead and find solace in the fact that there are good things happening with a new owner out there waiting patiently. I'm glad he's not embarassed to buy such a historically weak franchise. 

Not investing in players and your product is actually harming the game, it's sustainability and it's popularity. Those teams area actually even bad for his career and it's sustainability. 

Saying that teams should be able to go for broke, collect profit sharing of other teams trying to win and make money is a horrible business model. 

[EloyJenkins]

So now we have to judge the Robert trade on Acuna and whatever return we get from him also. That makes this a lot better on the optics. Technically they still have another 10 mil this season that should be accounted for also...but im sure that was mura.

A really nice move. 

[Look at Ray Ray Run]

24 minutes ago, ptatc said:

Its almost like they are objective and looking at the quality of the talent and assessing the players and team.

The White Sox are still projected to be the 3rd worst team in baseball after the signing.

Objectively, he thinks it's good news for a franchise to be projected to lose 100 games for the fourth year in a row? Objectively, he thinks it's good to invest less money into the franchise than they did 20 years ago?

[CaliSoxFanViaSWside]

5 minutes ago, Tony said:

H

He also said this in 2020. Ain't a single player with the organization left, never won a playoff series, and during that stretch set the record for worst record in baseball. 

Like Passan, but the trailer ended up being the best part of the movie...

That was then this is now. Nothing says itll end the same way . 

We have a choice to be fatalistic about it or hopeful. I choose hopeful. It's better for our souls and better for those around us to envision hope and light in the midst of darkness. 

[Look at Ray Ray Run]

3 minutes ago, CaliSoxFanViaSWside said:

That was then this is now. Nothing says itll end the same way . 

We have a choice to be fatalistic about it or hopeful. I choose hopeful. It's better for our souls and better for those around us to envision hope and light in the midst of darkness. 

This isn't life and death, it's entertainment. You don't need to be a blind sheep and pretend it's actually innate positivity and optimism. 

[PaleAleSox]

6 minutes ago, EloyJenkins said:

So now we have to judge the Robert trade on Acuna and whatever return we get from him also. That makes this a lot better on the optics. Technically they still have another 10 mil this season that should be accounted for also...but im sure that was mura.

A really nice move. 

I really don’t think it was Mura. I bet they sign either an OF or a starter. 

[FriendlyNorthsider]

4 minutes ago, JUSTgottaBELIEVE said:

If they feel comfortable about his health, Giolito checks many boxes on a 2 year contract.

Would be lower risk lower reward but should absolutely be done if there’s mutual interest. 

Gallen and his agent absolutely dropped the ball not taking the QO. 1 year 22M is better than anything he’s going to get with the offer attached.