daa84 Posted June 19, 2008 Share Posted June 19, 2008 QUOTE (Buehrle>Wood @ Jun 19, 2008 -> 12:27 AM) Ten more wins for the AL as things stand now. nine if LAA hangs on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shipps Posted June 19, 2008 Share Posted June 19, 2008 When has shoulder discomfort as an initial complaint from a Cubs pitcher not been something serious?Iam sure they will fool themselves into believing its not that serious of an injury for the next 5-8 weeks while Zambrano sits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted June 19, 2008 Share Posted June 19, 2008 QUOTE (shipps @ Jun 19, 2008 -> 08:09 AM) When has shoulder discomfort as an initial complaint from a Cubs pitcher not been something serious?Iam sure they will fool themselves into believing its not that serious of an injury for the next 5-8 weeks while Zambrano sits. Â They are getting him an MRI. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shipps Posted June 19, 2008 Share Posted June 19, 2008 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jun 19, 2008 -> 07:21 AM) They are getting him an MRI. Yeah I know,Iam just saying its going to be the same old story as far as how the Cubs handle the situation.Ala Wood and Prior. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maggsmaggs Posted June 19, 2008 Share Posted June 19, 2008 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jun 19, 2008 -> 07:21 AM) They are getting him an MRI. I am going to say nothing really comes out of the MRI at least structurally. I think they will find the usual inflammation and probably place him on the 15-DL with arm fatigue or a shoulder injury. I personally, he has just been over worked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted June 19, 2008 Share Posted June 19, 2008 (edited) QUOTE (shipps @ Jun 19, 2008 -> 08:38 AM) Yeah I know,Iam just saying its going to be the same old story as far as how the Cubs handle the situation.Ala Wood and Prior. Â So what you are saying is that we are going to start seeing Zambrano Updates in the Tribune? Â Hopefully they use the same template as the Prior Updates, it was so visually appealing. Edited June 19, 2008 by kyyle23 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Chappas Posted June 19, 2008 Share Posted June 19, 2008 So will Lou be berated like Dusty for leaving his pitcher to much and ruining him like Dusty was with the China Dolls. Same thing with Marmol. Â At this point in time they should shut him down for no other reason than to just be cautious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFan562004 Posted June 19, 2008 Share Posted June 19, 2008 my guess is he'll end up being OK for the long run this season. I think the MRI will show nothing they'll skip 2-3 starts and he'll come back fine. Nothing to really base this on, just a gut feeling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted June 19, 2008 Share Posted June 19, 2008 Hello nsbb.com lurker chuckywang and others. Welcome. Â Maybe you can explain how a 5-6 plus era sp like dempster with a career 1.51 whip, who has 4 plus eras in the pen the last 2 seasons has shaved his era in half, and has posted a whip nearly .50 lower than his career mark. Did he all of a sudden figure it out? Did the sudden increase in velocity come from offseason yoga? Did his gay glove dance confuse hitters? Is his peak really coming at age 31 after being ineffective as a starter early in his career? I'd like to know your reasoning and speculation. You don't like ours. Maybe there is a legit reason why hitters have lost about 70 points of baa against him all of a sudden.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted June 19, 2008 Share Posted June 19, 2008 QUOTE (RockRaines @ Jun 19, 2008 -> 11:49 AM) Hello nsbb.com lurker chuckywang and others. Welcome. Â Maybe you can explain how a 5-6 plus era sp like dempster with a career 1.51 whip, who has 4 plus eras in the pen the last 2 seasons has shaved his era in half, and has posted a whip nearly .50 lower than his career mark. Did he all of a sudden figure it out? Did the sudden increase in velocity come from offseason yoga? Did his gay glove dance confuse hitters? Is his peak really coming at age 31 after being ineffective as a starter early in his career? I'd like to know your reasoning and speculation. You don't like ours. Maybe there is a legit reason why hitters have lost about 70 points of baa against him all of a sudden.... Â Or he quit hanging out with Esteban Loiaza... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WCSox Posted June 19, 2008 Share Posted June 19, 2008 QUOTE (whitesoxbrian @ Jun 18, 2008 -> 06:04 PM) Again, I never wish upon injury, but I'd love to see this put him out for 3-4 starts. Â +1 Â The Sox could use a confidence-building series right now. Beating up on the Royals and Pirates doesn't mean much. Â QUOTE (whitesoxfan101 @ Jun 18, 2008 -> 07:13 PM) Zambrano has a 5.68 ERA with 13 strikeouts, 12 walks, and 33 hits allowed in 25 and 1/3 innings in his 4 starts since Lou kept him out there for 130 pitches against the Dodgers... Gotta lose the battle to win the war sometimes, Lou. Â Ironically, this is the same Lou who prematurely took Zambrano out of last year's NLDS to save him for the game that was never played. Â Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesoxfan101 Posted June 19, 2008 Share Posted June 19, 2008 Brewers moved to 39-33, 6 games behind the Cubs with their win today. They still have a long way to go, but they have made up a lot of ground lately after their awful start. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted June 19, 2008 Share Posted June 19, 2008 QUOTE (whitesoxfan101 @ Jun 19, 2008 -> 02:53 PM) Brewers moved to 39-33, 6 games behind the Cubs with their win today. They still have a long way to go, but they have made up a lot of ground lately after their awful start. Man I can't figure out how any of these teams in the NL are over 500. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted June 19, 2008 Share Posted June 19, 2008 I actually like Len Kasper as an announcer, but he just said that he was glad they didn't make the rumored Brian Roberts deal because he likes what Cedeno and Gallagher have brought to the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swingandalongonetoleft Posted June 19, 2008 Share Posted June 19, 2008 http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20...sp&c_id=mlb  Missing his next start at the least, and they're gonna do an MR arthrogram Friday. Looks like Marshall is coming back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteSoxfan1986 Posted June 20, 2008 Share Posted June 20, 2008 Looks like Piniella is gonna use Marmol for 2 innings tonight. Good news for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted June 20, 2008 Share Posted June 20, 2008 QUOTE (Brian @ Jun 19, 2008 -> 11:46 PM) I actually like Len Kasper as an announcer, but he just said that he was glad they didn't make the rumored Brian Roberts deal because he likes what Cedeno and Gallagher have brought to the team. Â Gallagher's been very good for them, and with the way their offense has been, I'd rather have the young starting pitcher. Not only that, it gives them more depth to trade for someone like C.C. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted June 20, 2008 Share Posted June 20, 2008 Quite the meltdown by Marmol. Two walks, two HBP in the 4 batters he faced. All that, and the umpire was giving him some very generous strike calls. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Critic Posted June 20, 2008 Share Posted June 20, 2008 Terrible outing by Marmol. 2 walks and a hit batter to force in a run. 3-2 Cubs now, but the Rays have the bases loaded and no outs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted June 20, 2008 Share Posted June 20, 2008 QUOTE (fathom @ Jun 19, 2008 -> 07:32 PM) Quite the meltdown by Marmol. Two walks, two HBP in the 4 batters he faced. All that, and the umpire was giving him some very generous strike calls. Â This bodes very well for us tomorrow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted June 20, 2008 Share Posted June 20, 2008 QUOTE (The Critic @ Jun 19, 2008 -> 07:32 PM) Terrible outing by Marmol. 2 walks and a hit batter to force in a run. 3-2 Cubs now, but the Rays have the bases loaded and no outs. Â How will Scott Eyre get out of this one...? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted June 20, 2008 Share Posted June 20, 2008 Oh Carl! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted June 20, 2008 Share Posted June 20, 2008 Crawford with a slam. Good night. Get the brooms ready. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buehrle>Wood Posted June 20, 2008 Share Posted June 20, 2008 Awesome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maggsmaggs Posted June 20, 2008 Share Posted June 20, 2008 I am gonna say that Marmol's ERA without looking would be the second worst in our bullpen now after Russell. Not saying I wouldn't love to have his arm, but just funny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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