Sleepy Harold Posted December 2, 2016 Share Posted December 2, 2016 (edited) Jon MorosiVerified account @jonmorosi #WhiteSox appear more likely to move Adam Eaton than José Abreu at the winter meetings, rival exec told me. @MLB @MLBNetwork linkypoo Edited December 2, 2016 by Sleepy Harold Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtySox Posted December 2, 2016 Share Posted December 2, 2016 Good. Don't half-ass the rebuild. Sell high. Should bring a substantial return. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flavum Posted December 2, 2016 Share Posted December 2, 2016 There are a few guys that I just don't care what they have to say about anything. Morosi, Bowden, Cafardo. Just ignore it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted December 2, 2016 Share Posted December 2, 2016 (edited) It's cutting off your nose to spite your face. Besides, he has 5 years of control. Those guys are not available. We have a thread. For the longest time, we all knew the White Sox needed a leadoff hitter, with a high on base, who could run. The Sox get that, and he comes with GG quality defense. Sign him to a team friendly extension, has 5 years of control....quick, get rid of him. It will work out perfectly. Edited December 2, 2016 by Dick Allen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox59 Posted December 2, 2016 Share Posted December 2, 2016 This. Morosi is an idiot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted December 2, 2016 Share Posted December 2, 2016 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Dec 2, 2016 -> 08:59 AM) It's cutting off your nose to spite your face. Besides, he has 5 years of control. Those guys are not available. We have a thread. I could go either way here, but with the way he plays I would be more surprised that this wasn't his career year. But I don't think it's obvious and it would be a joy to watch him 5 more years, he could just as easily be a juan pierre type that finds himself with a long career as a speedy leadoff type. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lasttriptotulsa Posted December 2, 2016 Share Posted December 2, 2016 QUOTE (DirtySox @ Dec 2, 2016 -> 08:57 AM) Good. Don't half-ass the rebuild. Sell high. Should bring a substantial return. Eaton has 5 years of control and costs nothing. Those are the exact guys you want to keep. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted December 2, 2016 Share Posted December 2, 2016 QUOTE (bmags @ Dec 2, 2016 -> 09:03 AM) I could go either way here, but with the way he plays I would be more surprised that this wasn't his career year. But I don't think it's obvious and it would be a joy to watch him 5 more years, he could just as easily be a juan pierre type that finds himself with a long career as a speedy leadoff type. His offensive numbers the last 2 years were pretty consistent. He is what he is, and that is really good. He has a lot of control. He is not Juan Pierre at all. He draws walks and can throw, and hits home runs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted December 2, 2016 Share Posted December 2, 2016 Or his value is at an all time high and might net you more than a few good prospects back. I'm fine with keeping Adam but if you get blown away by someone then go ahead and move him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KMule2545 Posted December 2, 2016 Share Posted December 2, 2016 QUOTE (lasttriptotulsa @ Dec 2, 2016 -> 09:04 AM) Eaton has 5 years of control and costs nothing. Those are the exact guys you want to keep. Speed/contact guys (who don't even swipe bags) that are 28 years old are not the type of players you should be keeping going into a rebuild. He'll be over 30 when we're good again. More likely than not, his skill set isn't going to age well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted December 2, 2016 Share Posted December 2, 2016 QUOTE (Rowand44 @ Dec 2, 2016 -> 09:09 AM) Or his value is at an all time high and might net you more than a few good prospects back. I'm fine with keeping Adam but if you get blown away by someone then go ahead and move him. But you are pretty much hoping the prospects turn out as good as he has been. Considering his production and contract, I don't understand taking on the risk. If some of the mid level market teams traded their Adam Eatons before they made their runs, they would never had made their runs. It would have to be a no doubt blown away offer, or it makes no sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted December 2, 2016 Share Posted December 2, 2016 I don't really want to move Adam Eaton, but in the back of my head, I don't know if his level of maturity would make him the kind of guy you want around during a rebuild. Dude was one of the big antagonists during the Adam LaRoche mess last year. It isn't hard to squint your eyes and see an Adam Eaton meltdown if Chris Sale is dealt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted December 2, 2016 Share Posted December 2, 2016 QUOTE (Ro Da Don @ Dec 2, 2016 -> 09:12 AM) Speed/contact guys (who don't even swipe bags) that are 28 years old are not the type of players you should be keeping going into a rebuild. He'll be over 30 when we're good again. More likely than not, his skill set isn't going to age well. This is also an interesting thought. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YouCanPutItOnTheBoardYES! Posted December 2, 2016 Share Posted December 2, 2016 Eaton would require a Sale-like return for me to consider moving him. He's immensely valuable and they don't have to move him now if they don't get the right offer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aryzner Posted December 2, 2016 Share Posted December 2, 2016 I'd rather the Sox keep Eaton than trade him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted December 2, 2016 Share Posted December 2, 2016 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Dec 2, 2016 -> 09:13 AM) But you are pretty much hoping the prospects turn out as good as he has been. Considering his production and contract, I don't understand taking on the risk. If some of the mid level market teams traded their Adam Eatons before they made their runs, they would never had made their runs. It would have to be a no doubt blown away offer, or it makes no sense. Those midmarket teams had a deep farm system behind their adam eatons. We have a single promising draft class 3 years away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted December 2, 2016 Share Posted December 2, 2016 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Dec 2, 2016 -> 09:14 AM) I don't really want to move Adam Eaton, but in the back of my head, I don't know if his level of maturity would make him the kind of guy you want around during a rebuild. Dude was one of the big antagonists during the Adam LaRoche mess last year. It isn't hard to squint your eyes and see an Adam Eaton meltdown if Chris Sale is dealt. Part of it was he was the player rep. According to Merkin, he is a great clubhouse guy. I know, what else is Merkin going to say, but he could say nothing. Eaton's supposed reputation as trouble is pretty much BS. The D-Backs had a bad clubhouse and unnamed players ripped everyone they traded from being too loud to being to quiet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YouCanPutItOnTheBoardYES! Posted December 2, 2016 Share Posted December 2, 2016 Although I do agree with the post that said his skill set might erode over time. A grinder type player like him relies on speed and athleticism, and those are skills that typically get worse at or over the age of 30. Who's to say he'll still be the same player when the Sox are good again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flavum Posted December 2, 2016 Share Posted December 2, 2016 Wasn't Miguel Montero one of the guys that had a problem with Eaton? Kinda speaks for itself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2Jimmy0 Posted December 2, 2016 Share Posted December 2, 2016 Adam Eaton is my favorite player on the team. With that being said, he's a speed player and much of his value comes from his throwing arm and he's 28 years old. I think they will only trade him if they received an absolute haul in return but if that's the case I'd be fine with doing it. I'm not sure that Adam Eaton is going to be a 5-6 WAR player over the next few seasons. Even if he's a 3-4 WAR player though he's an incredible value. If he gets moved, I think we'll be pleased with the return because I can't see him moving otherwise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted December 2, 2016 Share Posted December 2, 2016 I prefer to keep Eaton but won't complain if we receive a great return for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted December 2, 2016 Share Posted December 2, 2016 QUOTE (bmags @ Dec 2, 2016 -> 09:20 AM) Those midmarket teams had a deep farm system behind their adam eatons. We have a single promising draft class 3 years away. Isn't trading Sale etc. supposed to change that? I understand people would love to read how Keith Law raves about the White Sox minor leaguers, but it doesn't always translate to huge runs. Giving up good players with a lot of control for prospects is playing with fire. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jose Abreu Posted December 2, 2016 Share Posted December 2, 2016 QUOTE (ChiSoxFanMike @ Dec 2, 2016 -> 09:23 AM) Although I do agree with the post that said his skill set might erode over time. A grinder type player like him relies on speed and athleticism, and those are skills that typically get worse at or over the age of 30. Who's to say he'll still be the same player when the Sox are good again. QUOTE (Y2JImmy0 @ Dec 2, 2016 -> 09:24 AM) Adam Eaton is my favorite player on the team. With that being said, he's a speed player and much of his value comes from his throwing arm and he's 28 years old. I think they will only trade him if they received an absolute haul in return but if that's the case I'd be fine with doing it. I'm not sure that Adam Eaton is going to be a 5-6 WAR player over the next few seasons. Even if he's a 3-4 WAR player though he's an incredible value. If he gets moved, I think we'll be pleased with the return because I can't see him moving otherwise. I don't think Eaton relies on speed that much. He's really just a good contact hitter with a great arm. Sure, his speed affects him on defense, but the marginal speed decrease that will come as he ages won't affect it that much. Even if he was some big base-stealer or speed guy, plenty of those guys still play well with age. Take Juan Pierre, for example. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted December 2, 2016 Share Posted December 2, 2016 I'm not necessarily worried about his skill set eroding(though I do worry a bit about him killing himself running into a wall or something) and I agree that the clubhouse s*** is mostly bs but I'm just open to trade anyone especially when there's a possibility said player is at their peak value. I'm certainly not saying to go out and trade him for anything but we should be open to the idea of trading him if it brings us a nice package of players back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveno89 Posted December 2, 2016 Share Posted December 2, 2016 QUOTE (Jose Abreu @ Dec 2, 2016 -> 09:26 AM) I don't think Eaton relies on speed that much. He's really just a good contact hitter with a great arm. Sure, his speed affects him on defense, but the marginal speed decrease that will come as he ages won't affect it that much. Even if he was some big base-stealer or speed guy, plenty of those guys still play well with age. Take Juan Pierre, for example. Eaton would cost a ton in a trade. 5 years of control for a gold glove outfielder who hits, gets on base, can run and has 15 home run pop. Unless overwhelmed I would not trade him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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